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Er how or where did dna from Jesus come from?
I simply do not believe that story.

In addition Jesus was fully and completely human so if his dna was discovered it would test as fully 100% human
Rest assured of that truth my friend.

If you knew your Catholicism you would know that Jesus was/is fully God and fully human.
 
You have no right, none whatever, to decide what God can or can not do.

If God decided to assume human form then you have no right to prevent that.

That is arrogance.
 
Er how or where did dna from Jesus come from?
I simply do not believe that story.
I did not mean that DNA came from Jesus while I believe in that Jesus is in Heavens with his body! I just think that argument is very strange and I wonder how it is explained.
 
You can not run away from an argument by attempting to claim it is irrelevant.
The God of Islam is entirely and 100% false.
It does not exist.
Those who worship and pray to it are adoring and praying to a non existent being created only in the deluded mind of the false prophet Mahommed.

The Christian deity concerns three persons in one God, each person possessing the fullness of God.
But God remains one God .

That is the truth about Deity .
If I assault your believes in that way:

You are like Pagans who believed in many gods. You believe in three gods. You take your priests as god. Your believes are foolish than Greek mythology. Your faith is 100% human made and false. There are no three gods you believe in. That is just your imagining without any evidence. You corrupted revelation of God and you are damned by God…

So is there any use to effort to explain me your thoughts which I think are ridiculous?

If you want learn then you should ask your questions in right way. Otherwise there is no use to talk. Your religion to you mine to me.
 
Eddie - Always best to know /pay attention to others’ claims, that way - so long as you are well founded in Mother Church, you may know their errors and seek to - through the Holy Spirit’s guidance - enlighten others. [I remember an old saying - when dancing with the devil, it is best to know his footwork.]
 
I believe in one God not three Gods.

Within that one God there are three distinct persons who is each fully God.

This is a mystery

The concept is simple and true.

The Allah , the one being , is not accurate or real .

God is one being but within that one being are three persons who are each fully God
 
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Their God is an utterly false God that has nothing whatever in common with the one true God of the catholic church
Allah is the Father in Gospel. Allah(Father) is one person and personality. I believe in Father as unique God. I believe in Jesus as prophet of God. I believe in Holy Spirit as angel of God. So claiming that believing in Allah has nothing with God of Christians is not true and who say that is ignorant. It is very difficult to talk to ignorants. God is God of every humanbeing. You just have wrong thoughts about God. Jesus was on the world. But God never is in time and matter with body. God create time and matter. That is not something that God can do or not. Such questions are illogical. For example can God create a stone bigger than himself? Can God be unjustice? Creating matter is more great than being matter. God do not need to be material. God can see and feel every thing without matter and means…
 
The answer to that questions - yes, God can, if God wants to.

Read the story of Esau and Jacob, The latter got the birthright through cheating, and became the ancestor of Israel. There are things that we cannot fully understand, which do not go according to human logic,

I agree with the other poster that to limit what God can do is anecdotal. It is a desperate argument and contradicts God’s attribute.
 
I agree with the other poster that to limit what God can do is anecdotal. It is a desperate argument and contradicts God’s attribute.
God’s attributes do not contradict with each other. If we say God incarnated so do that not contradict with eternity? Or we say God get suffering or die so do that not contradict with eternal attributes such like omnipotent?

If God is exposed to suffering so something can harm God! Then how can God stand as God any more? Why do God need to be incarnated? You say God can do everything and that is true. So I ask can God not see what human feel without being incarnated? Is God so deficient? Being material or incarnating is not an extra act for God yet God create matter. So claiming that can God not be incarnated is invalid question. All materials are subjected to God’s power and attributes. God control atoms and sub-atomic particles. In that manner to say why God cannot incarnate into atoms is so nonsense. God is eternal with all attributes. Being incarnated is not an obstacle for God but God do not contradict with self.

I do not know why you cannot see that obvious fact!
 
Apparently you do not understand the doctrine of Christian salvation by your questions. Because you fail to understand it, there is little purpose to continue in this discussion.

This leads me to believe that either Islam is a very limited and simplistic religion or Muslims are incapable of intellectual understanding.

You are wrong to say that the incarnation (which is God coming down to earth and became man) or Jesus’ suffering as contradicting God’s attribute of being omnipotence or eternity.

You miss the boat here because this is about God’s love. That it is because of His love that He became man and suffered so that we can be saved.

It in fact is consistent with God’s justice and God’s truth that sins have consequence. If God wants to and goes against His justice, He could just bring all souls to heaven, but then that would make Him a liar because He said sins have consequences, which must be paid.

Muslims argument is that God cannot pay for man’s sin and that God cannot become human. Like I said, this limits God.

God bless.
 
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The whole world saw God was inside Jesus tomb and came out every year over 2000 years. If you still deny Jesus is God then I let you know that you will never be saved from your sins according to the Savior or the Son.

Hence, up to this, I must say sorry and think Allah is different God with Christian Trinity God or you have false religion like other Christians said. I met the spirit of prophet Mohamad, face to face, a decade ago and he loved to talk about Law of One and Allah. I have no reason to dislike any holy monk, since they always have good deed.

The concept of Trinity God is very difficult to understand. It took me many years to really feel the meaning of Trinity God until I am in touch with God. I have no permission to reveal, but only do as God’s will to save as many as your souls of Muslim.

So if you like to understand the Trinity God then read this official info:


Without the resurrection, there was no Christian religions as you see today.
Hebrews in Jerusalem witnessed Jesus and 15,000 saints resurrected, walked on the streets, visited their families then ascend to heaven sky. So Hebrews and others, few hundreds thousands people were willing to be crucified and died on the cross or burnt to death. They witnessed and knew Jesus was God and died like Him. That started the Christian religion.

God bless.
 
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“So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you , then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters” – Surah 10:94
The historical fact remains that Muhammad never approached a Real Catholic Bishop for his doubts. Muhammad got his doubt’s corrected by a condemned heretical Arian priest, who was his brother in law who converted from heretical Christianity to Islam. This correction Muhammad followed from his revelation, came from the scripture readings by a Christian Arian heretic.

This follows why the Quran never reveals the correct Trinity, but a heretical Trinity, the Quran denies the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Quran teaches that Jesus was just a man, all the above were believed by Christian Arian heretics condemned by the Catholic Church long before Muhammad was born.

I would invite our OP, to learn this pre-Muhammad history about the condemned Christian Arian heresies, and will find the Quran teaching a condemned ancient Christian Arian heresy about Jesus Christ and His Crucifixion. When the True Christian Catholic Church has never changed her faith in Jesus crucifixion, resurrection, divinity since Jesus revealed these in the eyewitness accounts revealed in the Gospels we have today.
Peace be with you
 
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How much you are sure? Could anyone point a revelation by Holy Spirit after Jesus? St. Paul is not creditable to establish a new faith with.
First of all. After St. Paul converted to Christianity, St. Paul never establishes a new faith and never established new and different Church other than the one Jesus Christ builds.

It takes an act of God (Holy Spirit) to convert a first century Zealot Pharisee Lawyer named Saul ( Paul) who was given religious legal authority to persecute and arrest Christians. Saul was on his way to arrest Jewish Christian converts who were Christian leaders. Yet God Himself blinded Saul and guided Saul to the True Gospel faith, which Christians were already in full practice.

St. Paul joined the Christian faith of believers. St. Paul never establishes a “new faith”. The first century Christians baptized Paul into the Christian faith. You have been misinformed, to think St. Paul invented or established a different “new faith”.

There were early Jewish Christian converts who were later identified and condemned as heretical Christians when they tried to change the teachings and divine revelations of Jesus Christ. Paul would of met this same fate, had Paul tried to establish or teach something other than what Jesus divinely revealed to him, and what the Holy Spirit guided him to do.
 
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The enemy is always the worst but can teach us a valuable lesson more than all friends.

After reading the report of Roman governor Pontius Pilate, the one ordered to crucify Jesus, Caesar wanted Rome to have one more god Jesus, but his Senate rejected his plan until many years later Contestant again admitted the Divinity of Jesus and accepted Christianity.

In the letter Pontius reported to Cesar,
Besides of miracles, healings and good works of Jesus, when Jesus died, the darkness covered the whole earth, the stars were seen on the sky 6 hours before evening. The sun is darken, the moon and stars are like blood.

On the first day of the week, Jesus resurrected on the morning, a super natural light lit up the heavens, majestic Jesus of indescribable splendour of dress and of
glory appeared in the air and multiple angels cry out and saying: Glory in the highest to God, and on earth peace among men of goodwill. . And at their voice all the mountains and hills were shaken, and great chasms were made in the earth.

Several hours later, on third hour of the night, graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose, and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many.

They walked on the streets and sing to praise God: The Lord our God that has
risen from the dead has brought to life all the dead. The Jews in Jerusalem saw Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, Noah, Adam and Eva; etc.

The light did not cease that night, many of the Jews died, Christ denying Jews were engulphed and swallowed up in the chasm except one who did not denounce Christ.

Jesus Christ appeared on the entire sky with His power, the supernatural power of God.

I believe in Divinity of Jesus and trust in Jesus name.
 
The historical fact remains that Muhammad never approached a Real Catholic Bishop for his doubts. Muhammad got his doubt’s corrected by a condemned heretical Arian priest, who was his brother in law who converted from heretical Christianity to Islam. This correction Muhammad followed from his revelation, came from the scripture readings by a Christian Arian heretic.

This follows why the Quran never reveals the correct Trinity, but a heretical Trinity, the Quran denies the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Quran teaches that Jesus was just a man, all the above were believed by Christian Arian heretics condemned by the Catholic Church long before Muhammad was born.

I would invite our OP, to learn this pre-Muhammad history about the condemned Christian Arian heresies, and will find the Quran teaching a condemned ancient Christian Arian heresy about Jesus Christ and His Crucifixion. When the True Christian Catholic Church has never changed her faith in Jesus crucifixion, resurrection, divinity since Jesus revealed these in the eyewitness accounts revealed in the Gospels we have today.
Peace be with you
Qur’an is words of God directly but not Muhammad’s.
 
Doctrines were established by people and there is no any revelation about that. St. Paul has not seen or met Jesus and Holy Spirit. Paul was not a prophet preaching a Trinity thought to be accepted. Jesus did not teach such thing. Is Paul superior above Jesus and God?
 
Jesus did in fact teach Trinitarian theology.
1- Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,

2- Allah, the Eternal Refuge.

3- He neither begets nor is born,

4- Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Al-Ikhlas (112)

God in Qur’an explain and attribute himself very obviously. It is mentioned that God is one. God neither begets nor is born. And there is no to Him any equivalent.

The above statements imply that Trinity cannot be true. Is there any statements in Gospel which explain Trinity? No. But isntead people do some philosophical interpretations.
 
John 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.”

John 10:30 “I and the Father are one.”

Matthew 20:19 “Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.”

Verses from Douay-Rhiems Catholic Bible.

These verses all clearly support the trinity and all are from the Gospels.
 
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