Islam's concept of Martyrdom

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5. Suicide bombing in the name of Allah? Please clear this up.

Pio

Dude, what’s wrong with you? Why would you just randomly add something to one of my posts? We’ve already gone over it a hundred times, the answer is No. You’re just looking for anyway to trash us and by showing how unable you are to accept information, I get it now. Nothing I or anyone says will ever get through to you unless it fits into your world view despite all evidence to the contrary. I am deeply offended by what you just did; don’t ever do that again.

wa salam
 
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*Dude, what’s wrong with you? Why would you just randomly add something to one of my posts? We’ve already gone over it a hundred times, the answer is No. You’re just looking for anyway to trash us and by showing how unable you are to accept information, I get it now. Nothing I or anyone says will ever get through to you unless it fits into your world view despite all evidence to the contrary. I am deeply offended by what you just did; don’t ever do that again. *

wa salam

Fatuma,

Pardon me if you’re offended. I know there are good muslims who condemn suicide bombings and say it’s un-Islamic, and one of them is you. But very few condemns those acts. I haven’t heard of Islamic leaders who are united and cohesive and firm in condemning such murders. Again, very few of them have condemned that in public. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I have heard that in Madrassas such as in Pakistan and other Islamic countries, the students are taught to hate Western countries and brand them as enemies of Islam. They are taught to hate the infidels at a very young age. And worst, suicide bombings is viewed as a “sacrifice” and “an act of martyrdom” and anyone who does that will automatically get to heaven. They even quote from the Quran to prove it.

I may say that there are good acts of martyrdom in Islam, but it is mingled with bad acts. Also, who has the authority in Islam that all muslims must adhere to, especially in interpreting the Quranic texts?

Pio
 
Being willing to die for your faith is one thing. But targeting innocent civilians for death is murder, plain and simple. The terrorists can try all they want to sugarcoat it by calling it “martyrdom”, but it is still nothing but cold-blooded murder.

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CarolAnnSFO:
Being willing to die for your faith is one thing. But targeting innocent civilians for death is murder, plain and simple. The terrorists can try all they want to sugarcoat it by calling it “martyrdom”, but it is still nothing but cold-blooded murder.

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BRAVO!:clapping:
 
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CarolAnnSFO:
Being willing to die for your faith is one thing. But targeting innocent civilians for death is murder, plain and simple. The terrorists can try all they want to sugarcoat it by calling it “martyrdom”, but it is still nothing but cold-blooded murder.

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Every educated muslim also realizes that this is not martyrdom but murder. A suicide bombing on a bus violates more Islamic laws than almost anything out there.
 
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Eetaq:
Every educated muslim also realizes that this is not martyrdom but murder. A suicide bombing on a bus violates more Islamic laws than almost anything out there.
Then why in heck do Muslims keep doing it???😦
 
Every educated muslim also realizes that this is not martyrdom but murder. A suicide bombing on a bus violates more Islamic laws than almost anything out there.
Rather, it is not a matter whether you are educated or not but a a matter of personal interpretation of Quran. It messed up the followers of Islam.

Pio
 
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Booklover:
Then why in heck do Muslims keep doing it???😦
Ignorance…they get told from someone who has a political agenda, and because they havent done any research on their own they end up believing that.
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hlgomez:
Rather, it is not a matter whether you are educated or not but a a matter of personal interpretation of Quran. It messed up the followers of Islam.

Pio
No, its not a personal interpretation. It isnt even an interpretation. If the person had read a good sized chunk of the qur’an then they would easily know what is right and what is wrong.
 
No, its not a personal interpretation. It isnt even an interpretation. If the person had read a good sized chunk of the qur’an then they would easily know what is right and what is wrong.
Go tell it to the fanatics.

Pio
 
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hlgomez:
Go tell it to the fanatics.

Pio
Give me their AOL instant messenger screen name and I’ll gladly have a chat. I’m not even being sarcastic.
 
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