Issue with roman priest about infant communion

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Neofight said:
By the 5th or 6th post the only useful information coming out of this thread is a flagrant display of lacking humility and charity!:mad:

Why don’t we look for common ground in the Gospel of our Lord rather than argument for the sake of argument?

Peace and all goof!
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“Let the little children come unto me, and do not hinder them, for of such is the Kingdom of Heaven.” :cool:
 
FrDavid96 said:
It doesn’t change the fact that at a Roman Mass, the code that applies is the Latin code of 1983. It’s rather simple (yet, so is the solution).
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Except that the Second Vatican Council, and several different directives, including the CCEO, bind the whole church while the CIC binds ONLY the Roman. And Rome has said that all who have been communed and are not excommunicated are bound under pain of mortal sin to receive at least annually.

Since that priest (or you) are culpable for sins you cause others to commit by denial of access to fulfill the precepts in canon law, you commit a mortal sin if you persistently deny a child who has been admitted to communion access to fulfill the precept.

Further, Rev. Fr., Theistgal has shown the canons which make it clear that exceptions are to be made to the CIC norms for Eastern Catholics.

Further still, the USCCB has made it clear in pastoral directives, as well. The issue requires catechesis of and by the parish priest, but it is a fundamental right of the ECC’s to receive.

It’s much the same issue as Celiac sufferers being allowed the cup alone.
 
ConstantineTG said:
You follow the tradition of the parish you are in.
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**Not true! ** The bishop of San Bernardino CA wrote a letter to his priests a number of years ago as did Cardnal Mahoney in Los Angeles CA that children who have been baptized and chrismated in one of the Eastern Churches are to be communed in the Latin Church when these kids attend a Roman Mass. I believe the USSCB have also addressed the issue. A bit of research on the net should bring up quite a bit of info.
 
OK, well, before this degenerates into yet another Internet love fest ( 😃 ), let me just add that even though I think EC children should be allowed to receive the Eucharist at Western parishes, I seriously don’t think it’s fair to accuse the priest of “mortal sin”.

Eastern Rite parents planning to visit a Western parish should do what they can to speak to the priest before Mass and explain their situation, but if he says “no”, perhaps this would be a good time to teach the kiddies how to make a Spiritual Communion, a much-neglected tradition in the Church today and one that EC children may need to practice a lot till they get older and/or more priests are properly educated.

And frankly, I wish more priests would err on the side of caution in deciding who to distribute the Eucharist too (coughNancy Pelosicough). 😉
 
FrDavid96 said:
It doesn’t change the fact that at a Roman Mass, the code that applies is the Latin code of 1983. It’s rather simple (yet, so is the solution).
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It applies to the pastor, but the Eastern Catholics are visitors to the parish, and particular law does not bind them.

They are subject to the Code of Canon Law for the Eastern Churches and thus may freely and legally seek the Sacraments, including the infants.

Father, I don’t say this very often to priests, but you are mistaken.

I am fortunate enough to live in an area with large numbers of Eastern Catholics ( heck Sacred Heart Seminary trains priests for the Chaldean Church as well as the Roman one 🙂

The Catholic School I went to had a Rutherian parish in the same town that was a ‘feeder’ parish into our school. About a 1/3 of my class was Eastern between them and the Chaldeans(as yes, the Eastern Kindergarteners went up for Communion at school Masses.

What I would recommend to you is that you consult your Chancellory with this question for verification.

To the OP, I would make a similar counsel, to contact the Bishop’s office for your Eparchy. They will have experience with providing the necessary proofs to Roman clergy, especially if the Eparchy covers areas with little Eastern presence.
 
Could we receive clarification on the canonical status of the daughter in question? The OP states that she is not a Byzantine Catholic, but rather a Latin Rite Catholic who is in the process of canonically changing rites. So is the daughter canonically a Byzantine Catholic or is she too in the process of changing rites. Wouldn’t that have a bearing on any potential resolution here and on which Canon Laws apply to this case?
 
UPDATE: first of all thank you for all your responses and prayers this has been a very lively discussion. The roman parish that we attend just got a new pastor. We talked to him after Mass and he was very familiar with the Byzantine rite (particularly the Ruthenian Church) and will allowed our daughter to receive Holy Communion. We are very relieved that our daughter who has been clothed in Christ will be nourished by Christ on a weekly as opposed to monthly basis.
 
JMJ_coder said:
Could we receive clarification on the canonical status of the daughter in question? The OP states that she is not a Byzantine Catholic, but rather a Latin Rite Catholic who is in the process of canonically changing rites. So is the daughter canonically a Byzantine Catholic or is she too in the process of changing rites. Wouldn’t that have a bearing on any potential resolution here and on which Canon Laws apply to this case?
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My daughter is Ruthenian as is my wife
 
Mgthesixth said:
UPDATE: first of all thank you for all your responses and prayers this has been a very lively discussion. The roman parish that we attend just got a new pastor. We talked to him after Mass and he was very familiar with the Byzantine rite (particularly the Ruthenian Church) and will allowed our daughter to receive Holy Communion. We are very relieved that our daughter who has been clothed in Christ will be nourished by Christ on a weekly as opposed to monthly basis.
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Thank you, Lord for your providence!
 
Mgthesixth said:
UPDATE: first of all thank you for all your responses and prayers this has been a very lively discussion. The roman parish that we attend just got a new pastor. We talked to him after Mass and he was very familiar with the Byzantine rite (particularly the Ruthenian Church) and will allowed our daughter to receive Holy Communion. We are very relieved that our daughter who has been clothed in Christ will be nourished by Christ on a weekly as opposed to monthly basis.
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I really am happy for your daughter! But at the same time saddened that there’re children out there that although clothed with Christ that are refused nourishment on Christ.
 
Mgthesixth said:
UPDATE: first of all thank you for all your responses and prayers this has been a very lively discussion. The roman parish that we attend just got a new pastor. We talked to him after Mass and he was very familiar with the Byzantine rite (particularly the Ruthenian Church) and will allowed our daughter to receive Holy Communion. We are very relieved that our daughter who has been clothed in Christ will be nourished by Christ on a weekly as opposed to monthly basis.
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I really am happy for your daughter! But at the same time saddened that there’re children out there that although clothed with Christ that are refused nourishment on Christ.
 
Thank God, I’ve been following this thread and I’m glad to hear your daughter’s soul will not continue to be starved :D.
 
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