It’s not selfish to say GOD AND I

[BrunoMaria]

Oops - I didn’t get this one here

There are no more Apologetics topics. Why not create a topic?<
isn’t this forum full of Apologetics?

But ok - let me "create a topic“ as asked here:

Apologetic means FUNDAMENTAL THEOLOGY and it’s no in itself concluded item like Gravity is a undenied logic, but it’s in itself a „semper reformanda“. A in spite of God’s absoluteness, continuously renewing.
Though nothing changes, our view of it does.
Apologetic is familiar in all religions, but through Jesus Christ we own god’s one and own truth.

The view of nature a child has, is a different one from the notion a matured person has about same thing. Same goes to the conception of Christian Belief. A child sees God’s reality different to that of adult laymen; they though see belief different to the conception of clerics. Last of them again got much differing views and opinions all in spite - just match Catholic with Evangelical convictions.

All Christians though do know, that God’s truth - revealed by God the Fathers begotten Son Jesus Christ, is but one truth - not at all explicable in different ways!
So, never God’s truth, but our insight of it is „reformanda“ - in need of reform.

This though is never „the others“ but if goes to you and me ever so personally! The final truth will be and is already in the „unit“ God and I. That goes for every single person on earth.

Now, Satan, who’s existence Jesus Christ confirmed and explained, works all the same very personally on every single one of us, for this just revealed reason >GOD AND I<. There is a certain unit of God and I God made and we can recreate or refuse.
Satan knows this and attacks the unit of God and I, by smiting us with doubts - hell’s sweet poison.
The risen Christ asked his disciples in Luke 24,38: Why do doubts arise in your hearts?
They arise, because Satan smites them into and over us - he covers us in them. We got to fight them all our life. The problem is not that fight even Christ’s Apostles got to go through, but to stick in them helpless like in quicksand. Evolution seems one such quicksand. Evolution only instead of Creation plus Evolution, is the trap Yes, we are troubled by doubts, but we do own Christ’s salvation. God’s word and promise. So, don’t hear great sermons, and then shake this off us like water-pearls off our coat. Much more so collect these components as bricks for a solid belief. a castle of belief - invulnerable by the cannon-balls of doubts.

A solution to this life-deciding problem is Apologetic. But let’s these scientific justification of doctrines not be all. Let’s not hear every Sunday a homily and then forget it all after a nod - yes he’s right. Let’s much more so pick this seed and digest it. Use it for firm and solid structure of GOD AND I.

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[BrunoMaria]

No, it’s not kind of selfish to say GOD AND I, for God will judge us individually in a GOD AND I individual trial, where all will be revealed that was hid under our conscience. It’s your and my conscience, not the one of our community or parish. And by the way: Christ said in Mt 6,6: Whenever you pray, go into your room, the most private location possible, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father, who sees in secret, will reward you. Here we are! Referring to us ourselves, when we fulfill the command of love God - and your next alike - then we still are in the very private situation of GOD AND I.

Yours
Bruno

 

[Spyridon]

Apologetic means FUNDAMENTAL THEOLOGY

That is not what apologetics means.

Apologetic comes from the Gk. “apologia” which means “to make a defense of.”

 

[BrunoMaria]

That’s a negative “answer” that doesn’t help at all.
But well, let’s answer even such replies:
Apologetic originates of the old Greek ἀπολογία “apologeomai”; in Christian linguistic usage, the defence of the logic of belief. Used eg. in 1 Peter 3,15: Set Christ apart as Lord in your hearts and always be ready to give an answer to anyone who asks about the hope in you. The fundamental facts of belief.
So please try to answer to these contents, instead of hairsplitting words.

Yours
Bruno

 

[Gorgias]

Not exactly sure what you’re trying to get at, @BrunoMaria. Is there a personal dimension to our faith life? Of course. And yet, Paul talks about us as the body of Christ. We are individually members of a body – not an organization, or a movement, or a book club, but a living, breathing body!

In a sense, then, we have existence as a part of a corporate corpus! If we ignore the rest of the body, aren’t we at cross purposes with the mission that Christ invites us to embrace? Aren’t we missing the whole point of today’s Gospel (the General Judgment), in which Christ identifies for us that it’s the care of those in our communities that is critical to our identity as “the people of God”?

 

[BrunoMaria]

As the core of Christian belief is embraced in the sentence:
Referring to us ourselves, when we fulfill the command of love God - and your next alike - the contains you miss, are even primarily highlighted and precondition to get into the setting that’s meant: God and I

 

[Gorgias]

Referring to us ourselves, when we fulfill the command of love God - and your next alike - the contains you miss, are even primarily highlighted and precondition to get into the setting that’s meant: God and I

I have no idea what this sentence means.

 

[BrunoMaria]

This sentence simplified:

Precondition to be a Christian is;
To love God and love your next.

When you fulfill this command of God
you reach the very intimate situation of
GOD AND I

for as Christ said:
When you seek this direct contact, then
"go into your most private location possible
close the door
then speak to your Father in secret.

This then is GOD AND I
which in no way neglects the community of Christians
but on the contrary strengstens it.

 

[Gorgias]

Precondition to be a Christian is;

To love God and love your next.

When you fulfill this command of God

you reach the very intimate situation of

GOD AND I

I disagree. “Love of God and love of neighbor” leads to the very intimate situation of God and us.

 

[BrunoMaria]

So you think you won’t be judged personally, but in the mass of Christians….

 

[Gorgias]

So you think you won’t be judged personally, but in the mass of Christians….

No… that’s either Augustine’s “massa damnata” or the flawed “universalism” idea. We’ll be judged individually, but what you wrote was:

To love God and love your next.

When you fulfill this command of God

you reach the very intimate situation of

GOD AND I

This is what I disagree with. When we love God and love our neighbor, it’s “God and Us”.

 

[BrunoMaria]

You disagree that by praying you got the very intimate situation of
GOD AND I
Think twice about it.
These days I received the „last rites“ together with an old lady.
(she was very near death, but then recovered, as the last rites also include a request for recovering)
That moment it was of course God and we, or God and us.
Same when you receive at the holy Mass the Host.
But then, when return to your bench, its GOD AND I
Any prayer is GOD AND I - even when you pray for all.
It’s you - the individual who prays.
I got to repeat, that Jesus Christ recommended your closet and close the door behind you when praying
then as in any prayer too, it’s
GOD AND I
However much you love others - your wife - your children - your parents - your community and so on - - -
you ALWAYS are - or ought to be - in an intimate connection with God.
in the connection GOD AND I
this vey special connection all of us go through in the hour of our dying.
then again, it’s GOD AND I

 

[BrunoMaria]

I wonder what all here think about this very personal connection we are given to enjoy not just in prayers. Our personal, individual connection with God.

Yes, Jesus said in Mt 28,20: I am with you always, to the end of the age.
A promise of course meant as plural - with His flock - with all.
But all the same as YOU in singular, as you and I are not at all just a subordinate part of the mass -

but the YOU in Christ’s word - I am always with YOU -
is in other languages but English not the same when it means one or many. Such it’s a bit ambiguous. But it means the very personal YOU and you and me ever so personally - ever so intimately! You as all and YOU as the God-loved individual YOU the person.

God and here Jesus Christ, to whom all might is given on heaven as on earth, is very individually and ever so personally with you and me - if we choose to be member of His flock. If we believe in Him!

And no! We are not stupid sheep of the flock as some atheists accuse Christians to be, but the paradigm of the flock, is the paradigm of a lovingly protected togetherness with the Good Shepherd!

It was John Baptist, who first coined the word of The Lamb of God in John 1,29: John the Baptist saw Jesus coming toward him and said: Look, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
And in John 1,36: Gazing at Jesus as He walked by, he said, “Look, the Lamb of God!
Jesus Himself never contradicted this!

And NO again; this Lamb, is not at all the weakest of all, but to Him is given All Power in Heaven and on Earth! Hell trembles in fear (James 2,19) as she knows, that this „Lamb“ did and will again smash Hell finally after Last Judgement!

To think that God sees and cares and is together with - just the whole flock - the us instead of the I - would be a terribly narrow sighted view of our real togetherness with God, with heaves and namely with Jesus Christ Himself.

Yours
Bruno