It bothers me that the Priest uses a microphone

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I can’t help but wonder what people thought when the first priest to wear a hearing aid walked into church and stepped up to the ambo.

Do you suppose people were “bothered?”
 
I don’t think that there is anyway around the fact that the priest needs to use a microphone. Unless the church is small enough that the priest can be heard by all. Otherwise, the words of the liturgy and homily must be audible.
 
When I was in the Army before our current politically correct days they used to say SOUND OFF like you got a pair!

If I were a bishop I would meet with every priest in the diocese and tell him that we weren’t going to have a bunch of mealy mouth wusses–we were going to preach Jesus Christ crucified and were going to do it by shouting from the roof tops!

If you’re in a very small church you don’t need a microphone and to be sure if you’re doing the EF then there are low tone parts where the congregation isn’t supposed to hear you–the OF has this to a much smaller extent.

But if it is impossible for little old ladies and elderly men who are a little hard of hearing to tell what you say at those parts of the mass that are not low tone parts then YES–you need a microphone!

And yes it shouldn’t be too loud if that makes it harder for people to understand you–there is a right level for everything–it may take an investment with a sound engineer to work with your churches sound system and acoustics so that people can UNDERSTAND and HEAR the word of God!

That’s what we should all be after–AND if that means it is just a little bit louder than you like–you should have no problem making that sacrifice so that people who don’t hear as well as you may very well HEAR and avoid Hell!

What we do need to get rid of are male priests whose voices sound as SOFT as some women and do not CARRY the word of God to souls who need to hear it to avoid Hell!

In other words–try to sound off like you think St. Peter would!

You think he was soft spoken at Pentecost?! There wasn’t a microphone but I can guarantee you one thing–he had to SOUND OFF for 3,000 to be saved!

I believe the Holy Spirit LED him to SOUND OFF!
 
Your husband is not likely saying Mass and having to flip between Ordinary, Propers and Prefaces.
There are plenty of business people who flip back and forth electronically in their presentations. For those who are used to it, it’s easier than paper pages.
 
When I was in the Army before our current politically correct days they used to say SOUND OFF like you got a pair!

If I were a bishop I would meet with every priest in the diocese and tell him that we weren’t going to have a bunch of mealy mouth wusses–we were going to preach Jesus Christ crucified and were going to do it by shouting from the roof tops!

If you’re in a very small church you don’t need a microphone and to be sure if you’re doing the EF then there are low tone parts where the congregation isn’t supposed to hear you–the OF has this to a much smaller extent.

But if it is impossible for little old ladies and elderly men who are a little hard of hearing to tell what you say at those parts of the mass that are not low tone parts then YES–you need a microphone!

And yes it shouldn’t be too loud if that makes it harder for people to understand you–there is a right level for everything–it may take an investment with a sound engineer to work with your churches sound system and acoustics so that people can UNDERSTAND and HEAR the word of God!

That’s what we should all be after–AND if that means it is just a little bit louder than you like–you should have no problem making that sacrifice so that people who don’t hear as well as you may very well HEAR and avoid Hell!

What we do need to get rid of are male priests whose voices sound as SOFT as some women and do not CARRY the word of God to souls who need to hear it to avoid Hell!

In other words–try to sound off like you think St. Peter would!

You think he was soft spoken at Pentecost?! There wasn’t a microphone but I can guarantee you one thing–he had to SOUND OFF for 3,000 to be saved!

I believe the Holy Spirit LED him to SOUND OFF!
There are plenty of real men who are not mealy-mouthed wusses, but they have gentle voices. I don’t care to see men forced to shout from the rooftops if that is not their natural voice. A loud voice is not necessarily indicative of a good, masculine man.

And the idea of getting rid of priests who speak “softly as women” is ludicrous and insulting.

What we need is to get rid of the idea that modern inventions are somehow not suitable for use in the Catholic Mass. The liturgy shouldn’t change without due examination by Church authorities, but the method of conveying the liturgy can and should change if it makes the liturgy more accessible and understandable to all.

Think about it, everyone. Many of the places that Jesus spoke to the Masses were natural amphitheaters, which means that He was using an “enhancement” so that He would be heard.

And it’s entirely possible that back then, people passed the words of the speaker back through the crowd so that everyone, even those in the very back, would know what was being said. Is that what we want in Mass–people speaking out loud to convey the words said?
 
I don’t think that there is anyway around the fact that the priest needs to use a microphone. Unless the church is small enough that the priest can be heard by all. Otherwise, the words of the liturgy and homily must be audible.
thank you. How can we learn otherwise??
 
Yes. What’s with the big yikes?

It makes no noise whatsoever. (He has an android phone, not a big iPad). And no one sees him, and even if they do, big deal. II am not as distracted by someone using an electronic device as I am by an adorable young baby staring over his mama’s shoulder at me. My brain turns to mush when this happens. Obviously we’re not going to ban adorable (or otherwise) babies from Mass. When someone uses an electronic device–I don’t even notice.
the big yikes is that I personally would consider that on the that it rude to God boredline as we are in church to worship God and any personal study can be done at home any time. We can’t be in church anytime. It not about anyone seeing him and whether it makes a noise etc it just to me simply rude. I read the kindle during communion when nothing else is happening. I read because my thoughts end up all over the place which were getting me distressed and wanted them to stop. I am not reading when someone else is speaking etc and I do 100% use it as my way of connecting with God which in a round about way, I was doing before but unhappy etc. I don’t mind someone writing the odd note of a sermon down to look it up later but to start looking before the sermon has ended. For me it just feels rude that someone would start looking up the sermon points before the priest has finished and can’t wait till actually get home to do private study then. Okay I know I read but I really do read to stop the awful questions that had started to go around and I read with permission too though was given easily enough and I don’t care who sees and is quiet because it is a kindle. I understand about the need to concentrate on the service. But to to do one own private study on a sermon before the sermon is finished leaves me feeling suprised and unfair on the amount of work that the priest has put into it. We are in church to worship God as a community and our private self for me at least does come into that a lot but we can do lot of private study all the way through the week if we want to and look it up then. Just the way I see it, sorry 😉
 
I’ll never believe that St. Peter at Pentecost was soft spoken.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard a parishoner say that they couldn’t hear the priest I’d be a millionaire.

Something is WRONG with that picture!

What’s easier to do–speak up or buy a million hearing aids–or simply not care that some people can’t hear the priest?

Which one of those choices do you think the devil supports?
 
What’s the big deal with a microphone? It makes the priest easy to hear.
 
What’s the big deal with a microphone? It makes the priest easy to hear.
11 pages of threads should tell you what the big deal actually is. Even if some of us have slightly strayed.

Church is about community worship and sorry but some people are not going to be pleased because it about the community and how we can help people fit in. By helping some people to fit in means that other people will sadly feel aggrieved because that is how we operate. Rather than thinking at least church is reaching to all kinds of the community they/we think we should we bow down to make it easier for them to fit in. I agree, what is the big deal about microphones and I see both sides of the camp in that I can’t hear without them sometimes. Sometimes I can’t hear with them too. I am affected by the disturbance by the micrphone but that is part of life. Two year it got so bad almost felt like going down with flue at each service but then the system got repaired and understood it was the microphone system. 👍

What is the big deal. Everybody wants a say, that is the main big deal. We are unable it seems to welcome the wider community into our little community.

fine if you ‘wanna’ use your iphones or tablets or kindles but make sure it is being properly used to help with worship of God rather than it looks cool and an opportunity to use it/because you can stuff ie personal study that should be done elsewhere really but if that is what makes you comfortable and not missing the rest of the service for doing so and don’t detract from the service but help you into the service. I read my kindle but only coz it relatively discreet and easy but if someone thought I shouldn’t be using gadets to help me be in the service then I would take a (novel) book instead. 😊 I know fully what I am doing and for me it has 100% worked!
 
the big yikes is that I personally would consider that on the that it rude to God boredline as we are in church to worship God and any personal study can be done at home any time. We can’t be in church anytime. It not about anyone seeing him and whether it makes a noise etc it just to me simply rude. I read the kindle during communion when nothing else is happening. I read because my thoughts end up all over the place which were getting me distressed and wanted them to stop. I am not reading when someone else is speaking etc and I do 100% use it as my way of connecting with God which in a round about way, I was doing before but unhappy etc. I don’t mind someone writing the odd note of a sermon down to look it up later but to start looking before the sermon has ended. For me it just feels rude that someone would start looking up the sermon points before the priest has finished and can’t wait till actually get home to do private study then. Okay I know I read but I really do read to stop the awful questions that had started to go around and I read with permission too though was given easily enough and I don’t care who sees and is quiet because it is a kindle. I understand about the need to concentrate on the service. But to to do one own private study on a sermon before the sermon is finished leaves me feeling suprised and unfair on the amount of work that the priest has put into it. We are in church to worship God as a community and our private self for me at least does come into that a lot but we can do lot of private study all the way through the week if we want to and look it up then. Just the way I see it, sorry 😉
I’ve been thinking about how to best respond to this.

My husband and I were raised Evangelical Protestant, and just because we converted to Catholicism, we have not cast aside the values and traditions that we practiced for 47 years.

In the Evangelical Protestant tradition, STUDY is worship, and study can be “corporate” worship, because worship is seeking to know and honor God, and we can best honor Him when we know Him.

II Timothy 2:15 say, “Study to show yourself approved to God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

To me and my husband, the BEST way to listen to the priest is to fully engage ourselves in what he is saying and to not only pay attention, but to seek to understand it as he is talking. To just let his homily wash over us is “rude.” And to just listen to him without any idea of what he is talking about is “rude,” too.

Let’s use the example of a conversation with a friend. Your friend is telling you all about their favorite activity, synchronized skating. The friend goes on and on about this wonderful activity, and you…well, you have no idea what synchronized skating is! You’re not sure whether it’s a sport or an exercise (like aerobics), or done on ice or on a roller rink. You’re just standing there smiling and nodding, but inside, you’re shaking your head and wondering what in the world your friend is talking about.

So what do you do? Do you allow your friend to go on and on, and just stand there and listen politely? And then later on, go look it up online?

That’s one approach. And it’s quiet. And IMO, it’s not very nice, because you are letting your friend go on and on, and not bothering to find out what she’s talking about and why it’s important to her. That’s “rude.” It demonstrates that you really don’t care.

Why not simply stop your friend and say, “Hey, this sounds exciting, but forgive me, I don’t know what synchronized skating is. Can you please explain what you’re talking about?”

And I guarantee that your friend will be absolutely THRILLED to explain synchronized skating to you! Your friend will be so glad that you asked, and so appreciative of your desire to learn more and share her enthusiasm, or at least understand her enthusiasm, even if you don’t share it.

And once you know what your friend is talking about, the two of you will be better able to understand each other, and YOU can listen to your friend with BETTER UNDERSTANDING of what she is talking about. You won’t just be standing there nodding and smiling with no clue of what she’s flapping her lips about.

I hope that this analogy helps you to see why we don’t think it’s rude to listen intently to the priest and attempt to understand what he’s talking about during his homily, instead of listening to the entire homily in ignorance.

We don’t do this all the time, and we certainly don’t make a big deal about it. But when there is talk of history, we are as ignorant as cats, and I think it makes a lot of sense to look up the history and scan through it as the priest talks, rather than just sit there and say, “Oh, well, we have no clue what he’s talking about, but we’ll be polite and just sit here and stare at him and PRETEND that we’re engaged.”

One of the constant litanies here on CAF is the lack of catechesis of many Catholics in the pews. I would say that one of the reasons why Catholics are ignorant is that they DON’T study enough, and they DON’T ask questions, but instead, they just sit there and let it all wash over them. And then they wonder why a Protestant shreds them in a debate. I would say that if using an electronic device can help Catholics become better catechized, then that is a good thing.
 
I do agree that there is room for study but myself tends to see it as a private thing. I am torn with where you are coming from because in my heart whilst it is different it is connected in that most people may have negative ideas about me reading through communion especially whilst I am on the Altar. I was willing to bring along a suitable book as a measure to that but the priest told me to read any book so long as I relax and be with God and this I am doing 100% . So I know just that from a little bit of understanding and a bit more help in between I am now 100% with God even if it does privately offend anyone. I will never know if it outwardly offends anyone. They are not keen about having a female on the Altar in the first place so a female who dare brings in any novel and reads during communion and the congregation are quick to know when altar servers have got it wrong. So I deliberately sought his permission before so I could openly read and that bit of guidence.

But kind of think that sermons are teachings in themselves or according to our priest that is what he is doing. So it don’t matter if we are in the dark so to speak because he is teaching us. Anything that I am interested in, I can find out later by asking him or studying it myself and would just never occured to me to do it in the service 🙂 Though I am either Singing or Serving at full Eucharists so am too occupied to have time to study further. The nearest I get is very badly picking out the tune to the hymn we are not singing 😊

I don’t know how my reading activity is viewed by others in the church especially when on the altar. But it not about them it about my peace, literally about my peace of mind and being able to be with God then. That is why I read then.

I understand and it nothing to do with me in reality and so long as you know what you’re both doing it just seems odd and I know we are all a bit too straight laced in church and that is one of my bug bears that people literally put on the sunday best and sunday smile when in church and outside they become real people again and why cant they be real people in church? Yet here I am thinking what you are doing is questionably rude to God in Church and yet hate the sunday smile image and it all about balance and wish I was as understanding as priests because they know when to be lenieant whatever and how to help us.
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I propone that the acoustics in a basilica style church are good enough to pray without the use of speakers. Is the microphone necessary?
to the original question, it depends. Can the priest be heard? See the next post…
Sometimes depending on the size of the church and the priest’s ability to project his voice without straining his vocal chords. Right now we’ve been having whispered Masses because our priest lost his voice two weeks ago from doing the entire Triduum without a microphone.
What’s the big deal with a microphone? It makes the priest easy to hear.
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11 pages of threads should tell you what the big deal actually is. Even if some of us have slightly strayed.

Church is about community worship…
worship that doesn’t end with the homily, so I’d like to hear it to use it…

I am guessing we are also discussing learning while listening? I didn’t think that was the point of the thread. If, however it is, I take notes, and discover the answers at home. Even then, I am torn, because while writing one thing down, I can’t concentrate on his following thought. Still, I am old school with politeness. So no electronic devices in Church, for me anyway, unless it is an inconspicuous recording device, which I tried today. But I betcha anything, it will be inaudible.
Because the microphone system of this Church is horrible and if my ears are missing 80%, my recording device will probably have missed even more.

Eh? What did you say, Father? Something about the Three Stooges today?
Turns out, I was right, he did mention them. I’ve no idea in what context, though. None. Zip.
 
I can’t believe this thread is still going strong. New direction: Wearable mic or stationary mic? Wearable mics allow the priest to walk around which you may or may not like. Stationary mics are more reliable. They don’t require batteries. Obviously, you’d want a stationary mic at the ambo but I mean at the altar.
 
I can’t believe this thread is still going strong. New direction: Wearable mic or stationary mic? Wearable mics allow the priest to walk around which you may or may not like. Stationary mics are more reliable. They don’t require batteries. Obviously, you’d want a stationary mic at the ambo but I mean at the altar.
😃 The priest’s lavalier went out today so he had to practically shout to be heard until the choir director took care of the problem. I never did find out if the problem was with batteries or radio transmission. Fortunately such problems are rare.

The layout of our church makes a portable mike important. Lavalier microphones are nice since they leave the priest’s hands free and he can be heard from the Chair (which in our case is a long distance from the altar.)
 
Lavalier. That’s a new word for me. If using stationary mics, you’d need one for the altar and another for the chair.

A lavalier would be helpful for certain other liturgical functions like Eucharistic Adoration or baptisms.
 
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