It Doesn't Work Anyway

[HagiaSophia]

Motor neurone disease sufferer Willie Terpstra, who went to China this year seeking a miracle cure, is now unable to talk.

Neither can she eat properly, with food having to be forced into her stomach through a tube, and sleep is becoming increasingly difficult for her.

She is dying after radical and controversial surgery which involved two million cells taken from the noses of aborted fetuses injected into her brain on March 23 under local anaesthetic.

Using her electronic keyboard Mrs Terpstra said she was disappointed with the surgery.

“I would not do it again,” she said. “It cost too much money and the result is not good.”

She has kept in touch with patients she met at Beijing West Hill Hospital since coming home. No one who underwent similar surgery had improved, and two had died.

But Mrs Terpstra is still smiling.

The 64-year-old and her husband Rein are determined to make the most of whatever time they have left together.

They are happy and joke around like any couple. But hidden under Mrs Terpstra’s clothing is a special tube inserted into her stomach so she can eat.

nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10335252

 

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I hope the tube in her stomach won’t be pulled like Terri

read the lie by the goverment-run chinese newspaper

news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-03/22/content_2728437.htm

WELLINGTON, March 22 (Xinhuanet) – New Zealand woman Willie Terpstra is showing signs of physical improvement after recent stem cell surgery in China, New Zealand National Radio reported Tuesday.

Mrs Terpstra, 64, was diagnosed with the degenerative conditionmotor neurone disease about a year ago. Since then she has had difficulty with everyday activities such as talking and eating.

She is the first New Zealander to undergo the surgery, which was carried out at Beijing West Hill Hospital on Monday.

The procedure, which was championed by paralyzed actor Christopher Reeve before his death, is banned in New Zealand because it uses stem cells from aborted fetuses.

It involves drilling holes in the skull and inserting two million stem cells into the brain.

Terpstra's daughter Ren Terpstra, who is in Beijing with her mother and father Rein, said her mother came out of the operation happy.

"She was great, she came out of the operation smiling - a little bit emotional, but she came out with a big grin on her face," she told National Radio.

She then slept for about four hours before waking up, with signs of improvement in her condition.

"She wasn't cured obviously but she was happy, she didn't have a headache, no ill effects," the daughter said.

Before the operation Mrs Terpstra had great difficulty swallowing but afterward drank a glass of juice in one go.

"That was really, really exciting. She hasn't been able to swallow more than one mouthful at a time with great difficulty formonths, maybe six months," Ms Terpstra said.

"It was amazing, really amazing."

The family also noticed Mrs Terpstra's bottom lip, which used to hang because she had no control over it, looked more normal andshe was no longer dribbling.

"We're trying not to get our hopes up too much because no one knows what's going to happen, but the initial signs are amazing," Ms Terpstra said.

Another improvement was in Mrs Terpstra's voice, which sounded stronger after the operation.

One goal of the operation was for her mother to get her speech back fully, but even if this did not happen the improvements so far were great, Ms Terpstra said.

Her mother was excited and hopeful about the improvements shownso far, she said.

"She's done it, it was scary and initial signs are good and nowwe just wait and see and hope."     Mrs Terpstra will now undergo two weeks of intensive therapy before returning to New Zealand, the radio reported. Enditem

 

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Charlatan Huang says in his ads that this operation is “safe, doable and effective”

well I haven’t found any articles on google that this woman can speak anything now except chinese newspapers which all quote the same piece of article posted above.

 

[abcdefg]

If she ever “typed” anything like showing improvement, it’s most likely due to hospital pressure and placebo. she now retracts them all
hypeandhope.com/wt/page/index/it_1119420210

when a doctor asks “got any improvements?” day after day, one tend to answer “yes” to please the doctor.

I once fell into a false medic ads, and the result is, well I don’t want to recall that experience again.

 

[Traditional_Ang]

abcdefg:

If she ever “typed” anything like showing improvement, it’s most likely due to hospital pressure and placebo. she now retracts them all
hypeandhope.com/wt/page/index/it_1119420210

when a doctor asks “got any improvements?” day after day, one tend to answer “yes” to please the doctor.

I once fell into a false medic ads, and the result is, well I don’t want to recall that experience again.

abcdefg:

If you thught that we were hard pressed to justify our baby-Slaughter, imagine a country where abortion is COMPULSORY UNTIL THE BABY IS BREATHING!

That’s why Doctor Huang say’s the treatment is, “safe, doable and effective,” when that couldn’t be further from the truth! If he said anything else, he’d go into the Red Chinese version of the Gulag, and I don’t mean the pretend Gulag that Senator Durbin referred to on the Senate floor. I mean the real thing where people go in alive and leave DEAD!

That kind of coersion can make people say things they’d NEVER say otherwise. So, we have NO way of knowing if this doctor actually believes this or is doing this to avoid punishment.

And it’s that way with everyone who says what the government wants them to say in societies ruled by totalitarian governments.

Thank God New Zealand still opposes the barbaric use of slaughtered babies for this. HagiaSophia, next time you talk to Fr. Ambrose, please let him know that New Zealand just got a big “+” in their column for not using tissue (or stem cells) from murdered babies. I’m sure he’ll appreciate the honorable mention.

Now, back to us - We have to FIND the research and POST IT so that we can REMIND people that almost ALL the advances are being made in ADULT Stem Cell and now PLACENTAL Stem Cell Research. Almost NOTHING has resulted from experimentation with FETAL or EMBRYONIC Stem Cells!

The ONLY REASON FOR FETAL OR EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IS TO JUSTIFY THE CONTINUING SLAUGHTER OF BABIES THROUGH ABORTION!

I am now convinced that the people funding the research know it, and fund it to the EXCLUSION of the more useful ADULT STEM CELL RESEARCH BECAUSE OF THAT POLITICAL AGENDA and the need to RESHAPE THE MORAL DEBATE which they are so obviously LOSING!

Remember, just one minor advance makes all of that slaughter NECESSARY, WORTHWHILE and NEEDFUL OF CONTINUING as far as these people are concerned!

Those are the definitions of “CYNICAL” and “APPALLING”!

Blessed are they who act to save God’s Little Ones, Michael

 

[Jennifer123]

Yes - in CA the people in favor of it had to get the money for their pet project from the public taxpayers as private industry won’t touch it. There’s no money in it and THEY KNOW IT. That’s why I think it’s pure mad science gone wild. The scientific community knows there’s little value in it but continue to hype it anyway just to do it regardless of ANY moral implications. There wasn’t even ANY discussion of it before CA taxpayers approved the measure.

 

[ega]

Traditional Ang:

The ONLY REASON FOR FETAL OR EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH IS TO JUSTIFY THE CONTINUING SLAUGHTER OF BABIES THROUGH ABORTION!

Nonsense. Palpable nonsense.

Abortion has been practised for centuries and demand for this predates fetal or embryonic research by such a magnitude that one hjas to ask why you have made such an obviously false statement.

Whatever ones feelings about stem-cell research, the fact is women are not having abortions to supply researcher, they are having abortions because they do not want, for whatever reason, the child.

 

[abcdefg]

ega:

Nonsense. Palpable nonsense.

Abortion has been practised for centuries and demand for this predates fetal or embryonic research by such a magnitude that one hjas to ask why you have made such an obviously false statement.

Whatever ones feelings about stem-cell research, the fact is women are not having abortions to supply researcher, they are having abortions because they do not want, for whatever reason, the child.

Nonsense. Palpable nonsense.
liberals need something else to justify abortion other than women’s need. “need” can’t justify anything. serial killers need to kill, is serial killing justified?

 

[puzzleannie]

ega:

Whatever ones feelings about stem-cell research, the fact is women are not having abortions to supply researcher, they are having abortions because they do not want, for whatever reason, the child.

In China, where this woman went for her so-called medical treatment, the women are having abortions because it is the law that no one can bear more than one child. Hardly pro-choice.

 

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In China whoever opposes the one child policy is sent to a gulag(no sarcasism they have the same translation “labor camps”) for 2 years without any judicial procedure.

 

[ega]

puzzleannie:

In China, where this woman went for her so-called medical treatment, the women are having abortions because it is the law that no one can bear more than one child. Hardly pro-choice.

There is, however, a disparity. i think 129 boys are born per 100 girls, so women still have a choice.

I do agree, however, it is a dreadful, dreadful thing and an unspeakable blot on humanity. I consider it a matter of shame we deal with China.

 

[ega]

abcdefg:

Nonsense. Palpable nonsense.
liberals need something else to justify abortion other than women’s need. “need” can’t justify anything. serial killers need to kill, is serial killing justified?

Your fantasies about ‘liberals’ needing to ‘justify’ simply mean you do not understand the pro-abortion arguments.

Your equation of abortion=serial killing is the height of ignorance. Emotional twaddle filling an intellectual gap.

 

[abcdefg]

ega:

Your fantasies about ‘liberals’ needing to ‘justify’ simply mean you do not understand the pro-abortion arguments.

Your equation of abortion=serial killing is the height of ignorance. Emotional twaddle filling an intellectual gap.

you have the right to remain silent, if you have nothing to say except insulting

 

[Christian4life]

ega:

Your fantasies about ‘liberals’ needing to ‘justify’ simply mean you do not understand the pro-abortion arguments.

Your equation of abortion=serial killing is the height of ignorance. Emotional twaddle filling an intellectual gap.

They do feel the need to justify abortion, because for one thing deep down they know it’s wrong. Go to the pro-life forums some time and debate with me. I’m not afraid to take you on. I have heard every far-fetched quasi-logic, every bold-faced lie, and every half-baked notion under the sun to try to excuse abortion.

If they didn’t feel guilty about why would they keep on finding SO many ways to try and justify it to US??

And what are you doing HERE?? It’s common knowledge that pro-aborts hate Catholics and all they stand for.

 

[Christian4life]

The real reason people are trying to justify stem cell research is MONEY. They are trying to patent stem cells so they can sell their “miracle cures” or do whatever the heck else they want with them, and make money off of it. They CAN NOT, at this point, patent adult stem cells.

There is no reason for embryonic stem cell research. Advances are being made with adult stem cells every day. Embryonic stem cell research, on the other hand, is inspiring a new generation of mad scientists to boldly go where God never intended anyone to go.

 

[ega]

abcdefg:

you have the right to remain silent, if you have nothing to say except insulting

I note you seem to have no problem with ‘liberals’ being smeared and insulted. Funny that, don’t you think?

 

[ega]

Christian4life:

There is no reason for embryonic stem cell research. Advances are being made with adult stem cells every day. Embryonic stem cell research, on the other hand, is inspiring a new generation of mad scientists to boldly go where God never intended anyone to go.

Dont forget the exciting and vast research grants, the prestige of being experts, developing cures, the income from books, lectures…and because they number of supposed treatments will be small at first it will be very, very, very expensive…expect profit taking in the order of 500% at least.

 

[OhioBob]

Christian4life:

The real reason people are trying to justify stem cell research is MONEY…

Unfortunately, when you get down to the bottom of things, that is pretty much the reason that most people do ANYTHING in this country.

Sad but true.

 

[OhioBob]

ega:

I note you seem to have no problem with ‘liberals’ being smeared and insulted. Funny that, don’t you think?

Liberals get “corrected”, not insulted. Only conservatives can be “insulted”. Didn’t you know that?

 

[HitF12]

Christian4life:

The real reason people are trying to justify stem cell research is MONEY. They are trying to patent stem cells so they can sell their “miracle cures” or do whatever the heck else they want with them, and make money off of it. They CAN NOT, at this point, patent adult stem cells.

Tee hee hee… snake oil, anyone?