It is NOT immoral to vote for Democrats

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I’ve seen people here say it’s immoral to vote for Democrats.

The Church does not teach that voting for Democrats is immoral. (Or any other mainstream US political party for that matter - Democratic, Republican, Independent, or Libertarian).

The idea that voting for Democrats is immoral is wrong on many levels, and I hope the more knowledgeable CAF’rs will help explain why.

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RealisticCatholic said:
both sides of the aisle.
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I would 100% agree that a Democrat saying voting GOP is immoral is also wrong.

My contention (which is also Church teaching) is that there’s nothing intrinsically wrong or immoral about voting Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian or any other 3rd party in and of itself.

It IS immoral to vote for, say, Democrats because you’re pro abortion and think abortions should be used more widely, or that gay sex is not sinful and perfectly normal and want the Dems to push that agenda.

It is also immoral to vote for, say, the Republicans because you think poor people don’t deserve health care or because you dislike Mexicans.
 
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My contention (which is also Church teaching) is that there’s nothing intrinsically wrong or immoral about voting Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian or any other 3rd party in and of itself.
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Yeah sorry, I was replying to Salmonslayer. As in he was implying only Democratic candidates are the only ones who “openly support immoral policies.”

And unfortunately I feel that the American church has been to blame, at least in the influential media ranks, for this past attitude. When I first registered in high school, I did Republican because I constantly had the impression that you MUST vote for officially “pro-life” candidates — or else commit a mortal sin.

Thankfully I know better now.
 
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Maybe so, I will not vote for a platform that almost took God out of it, was against Israel (I concede this point needs clarification) and of course, the top issue, enabling and supporting abortion. Thus, yes, I do find voting in such a manner as immoral.
 
AZ42 said:
believe that others have an obligation to help him, but he has no right to health care.
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I find your opinions on this issue both abhorrent and contradictory to Magisterial teaching about the dignity of human life. I also find your views contrary to a pro-life worldview.

You should take some time to read Church teaching and spend some time reflecting.
 
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I think the problem is many Catholics are looking back at the current administration and not finding an ounce of “pro-life” tendency in it.

Also note that Democrats are not necessarily “pro-abortion,” they just don’t think the solutions are the same as the GOP would have it.
 
ChristMyLife said:
I believe basic access to medicine and health care is a basic human right alongside adequate shelter, food and drink, clothing, and basic education.
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I guess we have different ideas of rights then. I think you have the right to be left alone as long you are not harming to common good.
 
RealisticCatholic said:
I think the problem is many Catholics are looking back at the current administration and not finding an ounce of “pro-life” tendency in it
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That’s precisely it.

Pro life means pro health care, pro housing for all, pro meeting the needs of the poor and basic human dignity, pro ending hunger, anti-abortion, anti-euthanasia, anti-death penalty, anti-human cloning, pro-basic education.

If someone is against any one of these things, I simply don’t see how they can claim to be pro life, since the Church’s pro life platform is inclusive of all of these things.
 
ChristMyLife said:
The idea that voting for Democrats is immoral is wrong on many levels, and I hope the more knowledgeable CAF’rs will help explain why.

@BoomBoomMancini @angel12 @pnewton (name removed by moderator)ut?
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Its not immoral to vote for Democrats, however, many if not most Democrats are solidly anti-life- especially those who are running for elective office by the party.
 
ChristMyLife said:
I find your opinions on this issue both abhorrent and contradictory to Magisterial teaching about the dignity of human life. I also find your views contrary to a pro-life worldview.
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Saying you don’t have a right to health care is not “contradictory to Magisterial teaching about the dignity of human life.” I have an obligation to help my fellow humans when they are sick or dying, but healthcare is a right anymore than affordable housing a right.
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You should take some time to read Church teaching and spend some time reflecting.
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:roll_eyes: OK thanks, you to.
 
And hopefully most American Catholics have this common-sense view.

I’m afraid most Evangelicals don’t, and more and more a stripe of Catholics are following in line with them.

American Catholics need to look to Christ, and Church, first, and political party second.
 
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AZ42 said:
think you have the right to be left alone as long you are not harming to common good.
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I would agree with that with the caveat that you’re not harming yourself either.

How can someone claim to be pro life if they see no problem with a poor person flinging themself off a bridge out of despair? Technically that’s not harming the common good…
 
Would you concede this is what Christian charity has been based on? If so, then we should vote for such a government but at the same time not short-shrift issues the Holy Mother Church has called Non-Negotiable, uncompromising, not an attitude of looking after myself.
 
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