Italian women take legal action over graves of aborted children marked with mothers' names

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Italian women take legal action over foetus graves marked with mothers’ names​

More than 100 women launch action as activists say practice is serious violation of human rights and privacy

A group of more than 100 Italian women have asked prosecutors to investigate who is behind the burial for nearly a decade of foetuses in graves marked with the names of their mothers in a cemetery in Rome.

The practice only came to light last week after one of the women, whose curiosity was sparked after reading about the so-called “fields of angels” in local newspapers, discovered a plot with a wooden cross bearing her name and the date on which the foetus was buried at Prima Porta cemetery. She subsequently posted about her experience on Facebook.

More than 100 women have since come together for a potential class action in a scandal that has also reignited the debate in Italy over the difficulties women have in obtaining safe abortions despite the procedure being legalised in 1978.
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So tragic.

Billions of lost people the world over, killed all too young.

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I’m glad the poor babies have memorials, . . .
 
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Glad they are buried, but putting the mothers names is a violation of privacy.
 
I agree with the burial of a fetus but not with using the name of the mother visible to passerby. On the other hand is not uncommon for practical reasons to identify with the mother’s name an aborted/miscarried/still born baby. If you look at the cemetery in NY in which are buried unclaimed bodies (hartisland.net) in the section of still born is used the mother’s name/last name as identification.
 
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I respect to an extent, that the outlook in Italy may be different. Those doing this may really think they are doing the correct thing. I personally think they are going to far with the names but… that is their country.
 
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The EU has got more stringent privacy laws about personal information, such as one’s name, than the USA does.

I suppose giving these poor babies actual names might somehow cause them to be regarded as actual people, perish the thought. (<— sarcasm, in case I need to say that)
 
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They are just planting crosses, not burying fetuses. Maybe it’s a form of shaming the women who had abortions by disclosing their names on the crosses. The complaint is about not respecting their privacy.
 
“Crosses marking foetus burials at at Prima Porta cemetery in Rome Photograph: Angela Giuffrida/The Guardian”
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A graveyard dedicated to the unborn sounds like a really good thing but I don’t understand why they would ever mark them with the names of their mothers because that’s just blatant shaming. What a great way to wreck the pro-life movement.
 
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Are you sure that they are not trying to do something of the same treatment a person gets, without an actual name and prior to being married, it makes sense for a child to be considered the parent still, I know it is sort of hot debate because maybe you want to be fairly unanimous and maybe they need some other form of identifier like a social security number that refers back to an official record not publicly available. Perhaps people seeing the graves pay some spiritual service by briefly having the event brought to cognition. Really, we should get deeper on what causes these abortions for the masses. More attention to the needs of the people in personal fulfillment would be the best. A lot of people get pregnant pursuing personal needs and as a result of general non-fulfillment in life and we could as a people do a better job with this common but horrible issue.
 
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But look at the photos, do you really believe those are individual burial plots evenly spaced throughout the cemetery?

I think what the article indicated is correct, that some fetuses are buried without markers and later some activist group is coming and placing crosses for all abortions to make a statement.
 
There wouldn’t be any way for activists to know which babies were aborted, unless there’s a lot of violation of privacy going on. (Or if it’s a very small neighborhood with a very complete information system.)

OTOH, if a woman wants to abort a child but doesn’t want to give the child her last name for burial purposes, wouldn’t that mean that she’s acknowledging the child as a separate member of a separate or single-member family, and therefore that she has no power to abort the child in the first place?
 
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Also what’s to stop someone from putting the name of a woman one doesn’t like on a cross and planting it in the graveyard?

The woman may have never had an abortion but do others know that?
 
I would have expected Catholics ton have some sympathy for whoever, unlawfully it seems, took these remains and chose to violatet the right of the mothers not only to decisions of their disposal but to privacy. From CAF I have earned of the overwhelming emotion that accompanies this issue for some Catholics.

But I am astounded that there is an apparent lack of understanding of the impact of this callous act on the standing of, and respect for, those who oppose abortion rights. Extreme actins are almost always damaging in political campaigns. This is one of them.
 
Somehow, these protesters must have gotten some very confidential medical records.
 
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