IVF options, what do you think?

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What is your thoughts on IVF and infidelity?

What about having a genetic condition and a chance of passing 50/50 to child and IVF? genetic condition is a roller coaster and could present issues for child.
 
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What is your thoughts on IVF and infidelity?
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IVF is a grave violation of the sixth commandment.

I suggest Donum Vitae and Dignitas Personae if you want to read what the Church teaches.
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What about having a genetic condition and a chance of passing 50/50 to child and IVF? genetic condition is a roller coaster and could present issues for child.
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IVF is never a moral option.

Choices in this situation would be to have children or not. We may not do genetic screening to abort children, nor heterologous insenination, IVF, or surrogacy.
 
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What is your thoughts on IVF and infidelity?

What about having a genetic condition and a chance of passing 50/50 to child and IVF? genetic condition is a roller coaster and could present issues for child.
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IVF is not permissible by the church.

If a couple undergoes testing, say after the loss of a child, and determines that the risk is too great for them to take, then they are obligated to act within church teaching, ie NFP to avoid future children.

There is a blogger, “This Ain’t the Lyceum” who intended to have a big family when her son was born with Spinal Muscal Atrophy. Her husband and she weren’t aware of the risks when she had a second son with this disease. According to her own blog she now strictly practices NFP. That is the only moral option.
 
IVF is not moral as it involves the destruction of a large number of “surplus” embryos. There are a lot of other options out there.
 
What if the genetic condition shortened the child’s life? We are supposed to have families (big families). This genetic condition came from nowhere. It was spontaneous for me and I do not think it is fair. I should not have to worry about my children having it.
 
It still would be immoral as the act of conception should not be removed from the sexual act. There are many much less extreme/expensive therapies for infertility that can be tried before IVF in any case.
 
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What if the genetic condition shortened the child’s life? We are supposed to have families (big families). This genetic condition came from nowhere. It was spontaneous for me and I do not think it is fair. I should not have to worry about my children having it.
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No, we are not “supposed to have” big families. We are called to listen to God each and every month and discern if now is a time for another child. God legitimately calls some families to only have one child. He does call others to have more. But He does not call all to have big families.

There is no difference in God’s eyes between killing a child in an embryonic state and killing one who is born. Humans only have an issue with it because of appearances.

By saying you want IVF to help you, you are saying that you want to kill those embryos that are shown to carry the disease. You are still killing your children, just at a much younger point in time.
 
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What if the genetic condition shortened the child’s life?
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That is something that the spouses need to discern.
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We are supposed to have families (big families)
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We are supposed to be generous in our circumstances. In some circumstances, that may mean not having children for a time or indefinitely.
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This genetic condition came from nowhere. It was spontaneous for me and I do not think it is fair. I should not have to worry about my children having it.
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You may not be called to marriage or may not be called to have children. Or you may need to talk over these feelings you have with a counselor to help yo let go of those feelings of unfairness and worry.
 
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Which are what options?
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Discuss the situation with a doctor to understand the diagnosis, genetic inheritability, the probabilities, and treatment options for children.

Then, you need to decide if you and your spouse want to have children or avoid children for a time or indefinitely. If you decide to have children you do so with the knowledge from the doctor of the chances of them having the condition, and what that means as you raise your child.

The only moral way to have Childers is through sexual intercourse between the husband and wife.
 
When IVF is performed to avoid a baby with a genetic disease, embryos are tested at a stage where there are enough cells to test one for its DNA. Only the embryos that pass the genetic test are kept. The ones that fail are discarded.

So IVF in this scenario is doubly wrong. First the baby is conceived on a manner against the Church. Then the “defective” embryos are killed.
 
hi Believer,
You have just had your life turned upside-down, and you have my sympathy, and I am sure, the sgmpathy of everyone else here.

One of the things about life that we all end up learning is that things we don’t like or want happen to us. It feels unfair. We rarely ask, why is this great thing happening to me; it seems unfair to those who are sufferingGod sends us trials and crosses. He has given you and your husband the desire to do something, but not the normal means. Perhaps He is calling you two to do something else?

It may be a while before you are ready to call nsider your options; just remember that God really does love you, and He has a plan for you.

I will pray for you in this very sad time.
 
I think IVF and genetic screening are fine. I am agnostic, though. Of course I know this isn’t what the Catholic church teaches. However, if we are to be parents, we are to do the best we can by our children (if we have them). I believe that means we are to ensure they aren’t born with defective genetic conditions, if we have that ability.
 
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There is no difference in God’s eyes between killing a child in an embryonic state and killing one who is born. Humans only have an issue with it because of appearances.
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Humans don’t have an issue with it because many don’t agree that an embryo is a person. It may or may not have anything to do with appearance.
 
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Humans don’t have an issue with it because many don’t agree that an embryo is a person. It may or may not have anything to do with appearance.
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What does “person” mean? Is it a reference to the offspring of other humans that has reached a “sufficient” age?
 
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However, if we are to be parents, we are to do the best we can by our children (if we have them). I believe that means we are to ensure they aren’t born with defective genetic conditions, if we have that ability.
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Do you mean that all means up to and including killing defective offspring should be deployed to ensure that outcome?
 
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