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Has anyone ever been converted to fundementalism as the result of reading a Jack Chick tract? I guess someone must be, since they’ve been around so long, but the arguments are so crude - almost like a comedy sketch’s idea of what Christianity must be like. Any experiences with these tracts?
 
Each Xmas my cousin, a fundametalist evangelical, encloses one in her Xmas card( This Was Your Life) to me along with other tracts warning me against the fires of hell and the wrath of God.

She is on her third marriage, her son was convicted of molesting a young girl and is serving a jail term. She is on the brink of financial ruin as she believes in the “say it and claim it” group and sends in large amounts of money to her “group of the week” which she doesn’t have…her “seed money” as she calls it.

It is very sad to see such a waste.
 
For an analogy, has anyone ever been converted to believing in promiscuity by watching a Friends episode or ten minutes of a Sex and the City episode? Has anyone ever been converted to JW by reading the back cover of the Watchtower in the laundry? It isn’t meant to work immediaely, despite the plots of the cartoons themselves. It’s meant to be read for kitsch value and slowly permeate the mind like the ideas and values in other forms of light entertainment, until the viewer can’t remember when it became so convincing, but I really doubt anyone ever quite buys the whole package. Just as few people ever quite buy the whole secular-society package or any of the other worldviews we’re surrounded by. The promoters of ways of seeing the world rely on partly, slowly, winning over some people, not suddenly, totally, converting anyone. The art of entertainment-propaganda-persuasion is fascinating. It’s so insidious.
 
They make me so angry because they (deliberately?) twist Catholic teachings. I’m afraid they do influence those who read them and believe they are accurate.
 
Each Xmas my cousin, a fundametalist evangelical, encloses one in her Xmas card( This Was Your Life) to me along with other tracts warning me against the fires of hell and the wrath of God.

She is on her third marriage, her son was convicted of molesting a young girl and is serving a jail term. She is on the brink of financial ruin as she believes in the “say it and claim it” group and sends in large amounts of money to her “group of the week” which she doesn’t have…her “seed money” as she calls it.

It is very sad to see such a waste.
Wait. I thought fundies didn’t believe in Xmas.
 
I got when my class went on a field trip to Salem, Ma for Holloween. My favorites were the ones that said if you read harry potter, pretty soon you’ll be sacraficing goats to satan.
 
But everyone who has seen a Jack Chick tract on this thread has brushed them off. How often is it that someone reads one and says, “This is the Truth!” and then runs off to join the First Self-Righteous Bible-Believing Church?
 
Chick, who has been discussed countless times here, is the subject of an enormous cult following with shades from true believers to satirists with many in between, among the biggest of which are the affectionate-but-ironic kitsch fans, who have a complex site for collectors and critics. He was born in about 1929 and grew up in SoCal when that was a quiet part of the world. He was a shallow, silly child who swore in high school and goofed off but wasn’t a delinquent. He served in Okinawa and came home mentally scared, married a woman from a Baptist family and finally fell to his knees in a dramatic scene he potrays over and over, accepting Jesus at the urging of his in-laws and a radio preacher. They then told him their version of what a Christian is and does.
He was looking for a way to serve the Lord. All he was especially good at was a certain goofy, loose-jointed kind of drawing and heavy-handed dialogue printing, which he had picked up by immersion in ealry 20th Century war cartoons, and he knew the Communists in China as well as a church group closer to home had great success with the slow-and-steady-image-bombardment style of persuasion using low-grade but collectible themed comic books. He decided to print tracts in comic form using the same goofy, over-the-top style and repetition of themes and images.
About 10 or 15 years into this, it was 1970, and a friend of his came to his door leading a nervous, formal, shy, short, polite man – who matched Chick’s apparent self-image uncannily, a psychological trick every salesman knows. His name was Alberto Rivera, he said, and the Vatican was looking for him. He worked on the cartoonist for a long time, telling an increasingly bizarre story (another mind-control trick – don’t reveal the whole story at once, start off believeable and get a sign of agreement and teaming, before going into the real weirdness, step-by-step). He was actually a con man who had creditors after him, but he said he was a former Jesuit who had been imprisoned and almost killed for revealing that he was helping infiltrate, destroy by scandal, and take names down at evangelical churches for a new inquisition. After the cartoonist accepted the story, the fugitive asked if he could stay a while, for safety you see, and if Chick’s new artist would draw him a book to tell his story? Soon he was basically dictating what the tract company did. He was the one actually running the operation, gulling the artists.
His mind warped by paranoia, Chick then accepted all kinds of characters as expert winesses to conspiracies and other horrors. “Ex” witch John Todd. “Rebecca Brown”, “M.D”, and her ward, Elaine, on the road to spring millions from a giant satanic cult that uses drawings and pets to keep tabs on everyone. Dave Hunt, Bill Schoebelen (a real ex-witch, but those who know him say he pushed his way to places of rank at high speed and then left groups to do the same elsewhere, then thought everyone else was as pushy and power-hungry as he was). On and on, people like them saw him coming a mile away.
To understand the Chickiverse one must understand the paranoid world of most of his followers, rural ultraconservative Baptists reared to fear anything complex or alluring, anything that could attract them. They are telling the truth when they say they don’t exactly hate anyone. They just fear everyone, because they can’t trust themselves. They know how easily overwhelmed they are. If rock-and-roll is all it takes to put confusing thoughts in their heads, they are sure it is much worse for others, if anything, and should be stopped. If they have such awful rebellious feelings when they wear jeans, and can’t read the blurb of a Potter book without feeling the allure of witchcraft, why, they are sure, everyone else must be helpless before such lures. So they set about to simplify the world, to protect the public from what they can’t handle. Of course paranoia lit appeals to them.
 
Strngrnrth, you must translate whatever that is in you sig, please. 🙂

My experience with Chick Tracts was all through my growing-up years–and really, I honestly have them to thank for grounding me in who Jesus was and how much He loved me, especially when my family of origin was imploding with divorce, dysfunction and abuse. It was that grounding, among other influences, that helped lead me home to the Catholic Church as a convert two years ago. 👍 So, in a strange way, Chick Tracts played a big part in my becoming Catholic.

Wonder what Mr. Chick would say to that. 😃
 
Strngrnrth, you must translate whatever that is in you sig, please. :)It’s the Our Father.

My experience with Chick Tracts was all through my growing-up years–and really, I honestly have them to thank for grounding me in who Jesus was and how much He loved me, especially when my family of origin was imploding with divorce, dysfunction and abuse. It was that grounding, among other influences, that helped lead me home to the Catholic Church as a convert two years ago. 👍 So, in a strange way, Chick Tracts played a big part in my becoming Catholic.

Wonder what Mr. Chick would say to that. 😃
Probably wouldn’t be the first time he’s heard it!:rotfl: I wonder if a man his age can be deprogrammed? He’s about 80 now.
 
I got when my class went on a field trip to Salem, Ma for Holloween. My favorites were the ones that said if you read harry potter, pretty soon you’ll be sacraficing goats to satan.
:eek:

Darn! I read it wrong!

I thought if you sacrifice Satan to a goat, you got a free copy of Harry Potter! :doh2:
 
I got when my class went on a field trip to Salem, Ma for Holloween. My favorites were the ones that said if you read harry potter, pretty soon you’ll be sacraficing goats to satan.
BY ABERFORTH’S WORD THIS SHALL NOT BE!
 
Has anyone ever been converted to fundementalism as the result of reading a Jack Chick tract? I guess someone must be, since they’ve been around so long, but the arguments are so crude - almost like a comedy sketch’s idea of what Christianity must be like. Any experiences with these tracts?
I don’t know anyone who was ever converted due to the booklets, but I know a lot of people (myself included) who collect them because they’re funny! 😃 We swap them like baseball cards.
 
They make me so angry because they (deliberately?) twist Catholic teachings. I’m afraid they do influence those who read them and believe they are accurate.
That’s how we Jews feel about Christianity as a whole, because they have twisted our beliefs too. I think religious groups with a goal to convert others do that to make their own faith look more appealing than the faith of those they aim to convert.
 
Well, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. 🤷
Cut the guy some slack. He honestly thinks catholicism is wrong and is genuinely concerned for your salvation. I’ve never had a catholic witness to me about why they think non-catholic christianity is wrong.
 
Cut the guy some slack. He honestly thinks catholicism is wrong and is genuinely concerned for your salvation. I’ve never had a catholic witness to me about why they think non-catholic christianity is wrong.
Don’t get me started on Jack Hick. The man is severly twisted to promote such trash. And you cut him slack only feeds the fire. It is all of our Christian duty to distance our self and try our best to stop or educate others the distorted thinking here. Sure it’s laughable it so rediculous. But Most of the folks that buy in to this are not educated and are “weak” of mind.
 
Hashem,
I apologize for anything I’ve done that might have added to the problem you mentioned. I can’t speak for others, but I think a lack of knowlege is often the problem. People think they know someone else’s faith, not realizing that they really don’t know anything about it.

As far as Jack Chick, would you believe that some actually accept what he says as gospel truth? I know of one woman that does. As far as I’m concerned, I can only pray for people like her. From what she has said about other things she believes, I’ve gotten to the point of thinking her faith as “gutter trash.” I’ve never said this to her, and I doubt I ever will. If I do, it will be from God and not from me.
 
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