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Chris_LaRock said:
As defensive as catholics get regarding Jack Chick, I’m beginning to wonder if there’s some truth to what he says in his tracts. So far, none of you have refuted anything he has said.
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Actually…the only possible truth that he has ever stated, may be his name… Beyond that…everything regarding the Catholic Church he has ever said…has been refuted completely. Maybe you are just too Chick-pro-ish to admit to or see the truth. Pity…eh? I mean that your statement above gives an open door to your apparent “closed-mindedness”. Sad, yes?

Frankly…I’ve seen and read some of his so called “tracts”… on one hand they are hilarious, though that would be strictly limited to a very dark and sick hilarity…the guy is obviously demented, and makes me wonder if he hasn’t been suffering from some severe dementia…or been possessed by Satan himself. Its a true pity that he knows nothing in reality about the Catholic Church or its beliefs…and its even worse that people actually pay money for that garbage and try to use it to defend their own beliefs… Its really quite evil and sick at its core.

I wouldn’t say we are “defensive”…I rather use the term “totally disgusted”…I have no need to be “defensive” about my Church or my beliefs. Sorry…you don’t win a “kewpie doll”.
 
inthecloud… You make a good set of points. Maybe I should “de-elevate” Chick…he’s not on par with Hitler, but given that Goebbels was the Nazi Minister of Propaganda…I would place him pretty close to Goebbels, and quite alike to Streicher…but no matter how you paint it…he’s one sick and deluded critter.

And for those of you unfamiliar with Julius Streicher…here is some examples of his handiwork in Der Sturmer: calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/sturmer.htm

See if you can notice the “similarities” between Streicher and Chick.
 
Chris_LaRock said:
If you, or anyone else is going to compare the man to Hitler - yes!
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But do “you” know for a fact that he has not incited someone to kill a Catholic or more than one? If he has, then he is equally as guilty as the perpetrator, yes?

I see that now you think you have the ability or power to limit the thoughts and opinions of others? Nope, wrong. If Chick can express his “erstwhile yet fallacious” opinions, then I am certainly entitled to express my honest opinions…after all sport, I am a US Citizen residing within the US, and I have my 1st Amendment Rights…just as much and just as strongly as Chick or any one of his sick and demented ilk, right? Yes… I knew you would agree.😃
 
RobHom said:
But do “you” know for a fact that he has not incited someone to kill a Catholic or more than one? If he has, then he is equally as guilty as the perpetrator, yes?
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Do you have any proof he has done that?
 
Chris_LaRock said:
Do you have any proof he has done that?
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Do you have any proof that he has not done that? Touche’!!

In answer to your question… I doubt that it would be all that difficult to find the proof that he has influenced someone that way.
Am I willing to devote the time to an endeavor such as that? Not likely…as I believe it would be a poor use of my time and talents.

Stop being childish…just own up to the fact that he is in fact a hate-mongering bigot…among other vile things. I pity him though for what God most certainly has in store for him and people who believe his tripe…I truly do.

Here’s another question to answer your question: Why is it necessary for him, you, or any other person to attack and attempt to slander and or demean another religion? Is it a pathetic attempt to validate your own beliefs? Is or are your beliefs so weak and unsure that you feel it necessary to do evil? Ooops, that was “3” questions.

Please have the courtesy to answer a question with an answer, not another question. Its an “adult” thing to do.
 
Too much of this smells of the Palitinate of the Rhine, Magdeburg, Gus Adolphus and the Infanta.
Then there were the unholy bloodbaths in the streets of Constantinople.
Those horrible stains we put on Christ should be burned into our memories - and any ANY who seek to stir up those ugly coals should be denounced along with any who cleave to them.
Such words have stirred mass murder and bloodshed before; they are not a laughing matter.

Perhaps the ugliest piece of Chick’s misguided efforts is “The Last Generation” - in case you haven’t noticed that’s the Catholic church he’s talking about.

He is shouting fire in a crowded theater, and that is NOT allowed under the aegis of free speech.

Hitler? He never sold half a billion copies of Mein Kampf - Chick puts him to shame.

God bless you
 
There is hope for everyone. But almost all octogenarians have some degree of dementia, generally Alzheimer’s, and that makes it extremely hard to learn new things and can also cause deepening paranoia.
 
Back in the early 1980s, I actually met Rev Paisley on a trip I made to Northern Ireland…I even remember the subject of the sermon in his church on the Ravenhill Rd that “Lord’s Day”: Unicorns! (see another thread on this forum for more info on that Biblical passage).

And I agree, his goal is not to have Catholics harmed. But he has used anti-Catholicism in Ulster to stir the pot, so to speak.

Lately he has been expelled from the denomination he founded…because he agreed (under British pressure) to cooperate with Sinn Fein in the new NI government.
 
Chris_LaRock said:
If you, or anyone else is going to compare the man to Hitler - yes!
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According to the Precepts of the Catholic Church, murder is not confined to the physical death of a human being:

*The precepts which follow are meant to protect man in his natural rights against the injustice of his fellows.

-His life is the object of the Fifth;
-his good name, of the Eighth;

These Divine mandates are regarded as binding on every human creature, and their violation, with sufficient reflection and consent of the will, if the matter be grave, is considered a grievous or mortal offense against God. They have always been esteemed as the most precious rules of life and are the basis of all Christian legislation.
*

Destroying the spiritual, mental, or social life of a person is the same as killing the physical body.

*Matthew 5:19

19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.*

I see no reason to defend the Catholic faith against a person who refuses to avail himself of the many authoritative writings the explain the teachings of the Church. In this day and age, there is no excuse for ignorance. And given that his tracts are online shows the truth is available to him, he just refuses to seek it.

While I appreciate the humor displayed here regarding JC’s base tracts, I prefer not to give him even negative attention. It’s not uplifting.
 
I for one can’t seem to read a whole tract without getting angry. How can one person be so hateful to so many people, not just catholics. His ideas are very similar to David J. Stewart and the website that Stewart has posted up is www.jesus-is-savior.com
 
strngrnrth said:
I don’t think so. Did you read Jimmy Aiken’s blog entry about meeting him? He sounds like a sincere, naive, and deeply paranoid man. Do you know he reads CA? I wonder if he lurks the forum or even posts here. The thing about paranoia is it rarely starts as paranoia or at an implausible place. It usually starts with something shocking but within reason and backed by some evidence (a child in X day care has been abused somehere, doctor says), goes on to an urgent discussion in a confusing situation (all the parents meet for ten hours at night in a fluorescent-lighted garage to share all their fears and one mentions that her daughter is drawing pentagrams everywhere.)
Soon fear and suspicion feel socially normal and normative and are emotionally reinforced. Eventually the brain can’t stop triggering that reaction when the person tries and everything looks dangerous and unreal. This is something not all counselors grasp: how primal and universal the tendency to paranoia can be. Like all forms of mind control it can happen to anone and happen without outward signs very quickly. It doesn’t take any particular personality type to get overstimulated that way. People who have lived in combat or in areas with rioting or other emergencies again and again often live a battle aginst paranoid thinking and giving in to it can be paradoxically like letting go, even like relaxing. paranoia is infuriating when one is the target but we are all vulnerable to it at some time.
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A couple of years ago there was a poster on here by the name of Jack T. Chick. Who knows? I see that nobody is now registered under that name. I thought it was just somebody trying to give us a thrill, but whoever it was sure sounded like Chick…
 
Chris_LaRock said:
We have no way of knowing if those claims are true or not. Maybe there are a few corrupt people in the catholic church who have done those things. It sure doesn’t prove catholicism to be false, but what if those stories are true?
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Well, they’ve been tearing down convents right and left for the past 30 years and nobody has claimed finding any tunnels or bones. If the sex scandals hit with such force, can you imagine that this would not be all over every newspaper, radio and television station on the planet?

Oh! I forgot! The international papal-jesuit conspiracy that controls all the world banks and media kept it quiet!
 
Chris_LaRock said:
What about all of the other tracts he has made that expose the lies of Islam, Mormonism, JWs, New Agers, and the occult? Don’t you think that those tracts have helped people get out of those dangerous groups?
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Not if they’re no more accurate than what he says about us.
 
HashemEchad said:
I hope this isn’t too off topic…all this talk about JTC tracts made me go dig out my very old (from the 1970s) larger-size Chick comics.

A few of them were personally autographed by Alberto for me (I’d sent them to JTC and asked if he could get Alberto to sign them, and he did!)

Do you think they’re worth anything, say on Ebay?
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You are very cool! :dancing:
 
RobHom said:
Do you have any proof that he has not done that? Touche’!!

In answer to your question… I doubt that it would be all that difficult to find the proof that he has influenced someone that way.
Am I willing to devote the time to an endeavor such as that? Not likely…as I believe it would be a poor use of my time and talents.

Stop being childish…just own up to the fact that he is in fact a hate-mongering bigot…among other vile things. I pity him though for what God most certainly has in store for him and people who believe his tripe…I truly do.

Here’s another question to answer your question: Why is it necessary for him, you, or any other person to attack and attempt to slander and or demean another religion? Is it a pathetic attempt to validate your own beliefs? Is or are your beliefs so weak and unsure that you feel it necessary to do evil? Ooops, that was “3” questions.

Please have the courtesy to answer a question with an answer, not another question. Its an “adult” thing to do.
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It’s impossible to prove a negative.
 
RobHom said:
Here’s another question to answer your question: Why is it necessary for him, you, or any other person to attack and attempt to slander and or demean another religion? Is it a pathetic attempt to validate your own beliefs? Is or are your beliefs so weak and unsure that you feel it necessary to do evil? Ooops, that was “3” questions.
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It’s called evangelism. It’s not a matter of trying to validate one’s own beliefs, or trying to strengthen a weak belief. It’s about trying to lead people out of what you believe to be a false religion that could damn their souls.

Was Saint Paul evil when he rebuked the idol worshippers in the book of acts? I think not. Was he trying to validate his own beliefs? No. Did this demonstrate that his religious beliefs were waek, requiring him to attack other religions? No. He was evangelising to people who didn’t know Jesus.
 
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