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Two words come to mind . . . “Rose Bowl”
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Here on the east coast, NY day IS a holy day of obligation. For the DC area anyway.
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Thunderbird
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Vigil Mass doesn’t really work either, since none of the churches in my area are considering it a Day of Obligation. =/ I fly out just after midnight on New Year’s, was hoping to maybe find a church still open that night when I get to DC but that’s highly unlikely.
If you ask me, Airports should have little Chapels.
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Phemie
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Our daily Mass is always celebrated at 6:30 p.m. Attending that Mass on the 31st will fulfill anyone’s obligation for Jan. 1, whether Fr. opts to celebrate the Mass of the day or the anticipated Mary, Mother of God Mass at that time.
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Thank you all for your replies. I will be at Mass because I go everyday that I can. I now understand that Jan. 1st is not a Holy day of Obligation in the Los Angeles Archdiocese. Thank you to those who provided links. God Bless…teachccd 
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The Vatican has different jurisdictions for different segments of the USA. The Pacific and the Caribbean are two separate episcopal conferences. The Military Archdiocese, belongs to the USCC, regardless of what part of the world the priest is stationed.
We have three Episcopal Conferences in this country: United States, Pacific, and Puerto Rico. Politically, the Vatican recognizes them all as the United States, but geographically they are not. I’m not sure about Alaska. Maybe someone else knows about them.
By the way, January 1 is not a holy day of obligation for the entire Latin Rite Church. In South America the holy day of obligation is January 6, the Solemnity of the Epiphany. They are Latin Rite but they follow the Byzantine Liturgical calendar, so do Spain and Turkey. Though in Turkey, Latin Rite are less.
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Alaska is part of the USCCB; Province and Archdiocese of Anchorage, Diocese of Juneau, and Diocese of Fairbanks; Eparchy of Van Nuys (in the Ruthenian Metropolitan Church Sui Iuris).The Vatican has different jurisdictions for different segments of the USA. The Pacific and the Caribbean are two separate episcopal conferences. The Military Archdiocese, belongs to the USCC, regardless of what part of the world the priest is stationed.
We have three Episcopal Conferences in this country: United States, Pacific, and Puerto Rico. Politically, the Vatican recognizes them all as the United States, but geographically they are not. I’m not sure about Alaska. Maybe someone else knows about them.
By the way, January 1 is not a holy day of obligation for the entire Latin Rite Church. In South America the holy day of obligation is January 6, the Solemnity of the Epiphany. They are Latin Rite but they follow the Byzantine Liturgical calendar, so do Spain and Turkey. Though in Turkey, Latin Rite are less.
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Note that the diocese of Honolulu (HI) is part of the USCCB,and so are those of PR.
usccb.org/dioceses.shtml
The USCCB DOES subdivide itself into regions; 10 or 11 IIRC, with one being the Eastern Catholics.
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JReducation
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Check the list again. If you look for the Dioceses of: Mayaguez, Ponce, Arecibo, and San Juan, you will not find them on that list. I remember this from my years as a missionary. There is a Puerto Rican Episcopal Conference. These dioceses make up that conference. There was a time when there was a question of whether they should be part of the US Episcopal Conference or the Latin American Episcopal Conference.
The Latin American Episcopal Conference was deemed inappropriate because the US Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is part of the United States. The United States Episcopal Conference was inappropriate because the Vatican maintained separate relations with the Church in Puerto Rico at the time.
I was on mission with our Franciscan missionaries in the Diocese of Arecibo and the Archdiocese of San Juan when Puerto Rico’s Conference was given its own jurisdiction in the 1970s. They were given their own patrons too, Our Lady of Providence and St. John Baptist., not the Immaculate Conception. Religious Orders were asked to create separate Puerto Rican provinces and detach their members serving in Puerto Rico from the American provinces. Our Secular Franciscans and the Capuchin Franciscan Friars became the Vice Province of Puerto Rico.
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You will not find the Mariana Islands or the US Commonwealth of Guam either on that list. They are another Episcopal Conference. Like Puerto Rico, the Vatican asked them to become autonomous as well. They became a Vice Province too with their headquarters in Guam.
All are part of the United States as a nation, but not part of the same conference or part of the United States Provinces.
The Vatican Department of State divides the United States differently from how we divide ourselves.
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Aramis
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usccb lists them in dioceses by state.
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Digitonomy
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Parts of the US belong to 4 episcopal conferences, so far as I can tell from this page: the USCCB, the Antilles Episcopal Conference which includes the US Virgin Islands, the Conferencia Episcopal Puertorriqueña (CEP), and the Episcopal Conference of the Pacific which includes Guam, American Samoa, and a few other US islands. Only the USCCB and the CEP appear to consist entirely of dioceses on US territory.
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JReducation
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I wonder if our confusion here is the terminology. It just came to me. If I’m wrong, please let me know.
We may be using Episcopal Conference and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops interchangeably. They are not the same. The USCCB is a bigger umbrella.
Let me know if I’m right. Thanks.
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We may be using Episcopal Conference and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops interchangeably. They are not the same. The USCCB is a bigger umbrella.
Let me know if I’m right. Thanks.
JR
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Some do. If you’re headed to a large airport, look into it.If you ask me, Airports should have little Chapels.
Where in DC are you going? There are tons of churches w/ lots of Mass times. Hope you work it out.
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JReducation
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If you’re going to be in the city St. Matthew’s Cathedral on M Street in Dupont Circle will have masses. Check out their website. If you’re going to be on the Maryland side of town, you can go to the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception at Catholic University of American on the corner of Michigan Ave and Harewood Rd NE.Vigil Mass doesn’t really work either, since none of the churches in my area are considering it a Day of Obligation. =/ I fly out just after midnight on New Year’s, was hoping to maybe find a church still open that night when I get to DC but that’s highly unlikely.
If you ask me, Airports should have little Chapels.
If you’re going to be on the Virginia side of the city, the Arlington Cathedral, St. Thomas More on Arlington Blvd and Glebe Rd. will have masses that day.
There will also be mass at the Franciscan Monastery on Quincy St. NE, at the Visitation Monastery at Visitation High School in Georgetown and at Georgetown University chapel on Canal Rd NW.
Hope this helps.
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Hey thanks!
I’ll be in DC somewhere around noon or 1 in the afternoon, God willing. I did a bit of searching and found that a lot of parishes will be done with services by around noon-ish. If any of them have evening services, I’ll be ALL over it. The good news is that my mom and dad both live near Metro Stations IN the city - makes it far easier to get around.Thanks again, I’ll check out the churches you’ve mentioned! This will be my first return home as a bonafide Catholic.
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Digitonomy
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Yes and no. I believe the USCCB is intended to be one of the Latin-rite national episcopal conferences, as called for in Vatican II. For practical reasons, Eastern-rite bishops in the US are also invited to participate, but they don’t vote on issues such as the revision of English translations of Latin-rite liturgical texts. I was not aware of the Puerto Rican situation until yesterday; my guess is that they are treated in the same way - participating as a way to network, and have some exposure to and some impact on trends on the mainland. But I’d guess they don’t get to participate in formal decisionmaking processes by the USCCB. Perhaps there’s a constitution or charter for the USCCB that spells this out more clearly.We may be using Episcopal Conference and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops interchangeably. They are not the same. The USCCB is a bigger umbrella.
Let me know if I’m rightThanksJR
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That would seem logical, although I haven’t seen any evidence that US territories in the Episcopal Conference of the Pacific take part in the USCCB at all - they are not listed on that USCCB map, unlike Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands.
I’m also curious whether any business from say American Samoa requiring a papal nuncio must go to the one for their own country in DC, or if they would use a closer one on one of the foreign islands in their own episcopal conference.
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JReducation
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The Nuncio would not apply here. The Nuncio is more of an ambassador to the State. The Nuncio to the USA is the same for the 50 states, the two US commonwealths and the three US insular territories. The role of the Nuncio is diplomatic, not juridical.
Obviously, if you’re a local bishop, you don’t want to mess with the Pope’s amabassador to your country. :tsktsk:
Happy New Year!
JR
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