January 2 LOTH question

[MikeWM]

As 2 January was the memorial of SS Basil the Great and Gregory Nazianzen, which provided Benedictus/Magnificat antiphons, and a closing prayer, why are there separate ones listed under 2 January? I get why there needs to be a full Office of Readings - because 2 January may be a Sunday, and the Second Sunday after Christmas refers to the Office of Readings for the appropriate date - but I don’t see how we can ever use the Benedictus/Magnificat antiphons, or the closing prayer, listed for 2 January, because it’s either a Sunday (in which case we use either Second Sunday or Epiphany), or it’s the Memorial, in which case we use that.

I can’t help but feel I’ve missed the point here somewhere. Anyone got some insight?

Mike

 

[AJV]

I just remarked on this in another forum.

I suppose if one does go according to the layout of the ICEL LH, then one does not use the same text for Jan 2 every year-but then someone posted on how their Ordo instructs them to modify it, and use Monday for January 2, so I don’t know.

However for the Closing Prayer-you need it for Prayer during the day- so the only puzzle is why they print it under Morning Prayer and elsewhere (custom?) and why they’ve provided canticle antiphons.

 

[tee_eff_em]

Similarly, I always wonder what was going on in the minds of the canonists (or whomever) when Bl. Andre Bessette’s feast was placed on the calendar – I understand, as the anniversary of his death, it is accurate; and I know, as a beatus, his feast is not universal; but I do not know how “local” is his feast?

It’s like they said *“Around here, Epiphany is translated to Sunday, and it ain’t never goin’ back, so we might as well put Bl. Andre on 6-Jan” *-- It just seems like something that ought not be done.

tee

 

[AlexV]

The only, only, only time you could ever use the LOTH January 2 oration and canticle antiphons would be in the rare, rare, rare instance that your locality celebrated Basil and Gregory on a different date, which would make little sense, since if you were St. Basil’s Church, then January 2 would just be a solemnity for you, and, typically, St. Gregory moved to January 3 as an obligatory memorial.

It IS bizarre that the LOTH did this…however, what I suspect happened is the January 2 texts were drafted before the Roman Calendar was finalized.

Sloppy. Simply sloppy.

As for Blessed Andre…note the USA didn’t even bother to give him a full Office. No reading exists for him, only a prayer. And yes, putting him on January 6 was bizarre.

 

[Augustine]

On the LOTH for the 1st week of January, why is it that we pray mostly from the Ordinary Time psalter instead?

I’m new to the LOTH, as anyone can see…

 

[MikeWM]

I just remarked on this in another forum.

Oh good. It’s not just me

However for the Closing Prayer-you need it for Prayer during the day

Ah, yes. I guess that’s a giveaway that I’m not doing Prayer during the day yet ; I haven’t worked out the best way to fit it in

Mike

 

[MikeWM]

It IS bizarre that the LOTH did this…however, what I suspect happened is the January 2 texts were drafted before the Roman Calendar was finalized.

I suspected that too, but I thought I may have missed the point somewhere. I only recently realised that on Memoria you’re supposed to use the Psalter by default (rather than the appropriate Common), so I figured I may be doing something else equally silly here. Apparently not, which is good, I guess.

Thanks

Mike

 

[MikeWM]

Similarly, I always wonder what was going on in the minds of the canonists (or whomever) when Bl. Andre Bessette’s feast was placed on the calendar – I understand, as the anniversary of his death, it is accurate; and I know, as a beatus, his feast is not universal; but I do not know how “local” is his feast?

He isn’t mentioned at all in my (UK, Australia, etc.) version of the LOTH, and I’ve got the 2006 edition as I’ve only started the Office of Readings recently, so I guess we don’t have this at all.

It’s like they said "Around here, Epiphany is translated to Sunday, and it ain’t never goin’ back, so we might as well put Bl. Andre on 6-Jan" – It just seems like something that ought not be done.

I wish we hadn’t just changed that here in England and Wales. I’ve no idea how Ascension on a Sunday will feel, but I’m quite sure it won’t feel right. (We’ve just moved Epiphany, Ascension, and Corpus Christi to the nearest Sunday).

Mike

 

[tee_eff_em]

He isn’t mentioned at all in my (UK, Australia, etc.) version of the LOTH, and I’ve got the 2006 edition as I’ve only started the Office of Readings recently, so I guess we don’t have this at all.

He is a North American, so I guess not local enough for the E-W calendar (he may have been Canadian, but *French *Canadian )

EWTN has some information.

tee