Jehovah's Witness preaching. Increasing or fading away?

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I remember going to a convention when I was much younger, and developing a migraine. I went to the medical room, and the elders were outside discussing what to do with me and how to get me home and so forth, and it only struck me later what felt so odd - they didn’t pray at all. I guess that’s what I meant about the relentless ‘practicality’ of their material and outlook. Even their paradise is earthbound and spirituality seems very much an afterthought.
Oh yeah! We were in Uncle Bill’s room and a Christian pastor came in to talk. Uncle Bill was fine but Aunt Caroline was very out of sorts with it. He asked to pray but Aunt Caroline said, “We have our own prayers.” Didn’t stop the pastor or the rest of us…we just bowed our heads and prayed. I’m very hopeful that in his final days Uncle Bill was able to turn to Christ.
 
I wonder if New York knows about the drop off. My understanding is that JW’s are required to do the door-to-door thing and that they must keep track of every address they visited or tried to visit which is submitted once a month to the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society. They basically have a quota. It is how they remain in good standing. Am I correct? If nothing has changed from above then maybe they’re just getting lazy. 🤷
I think it has a lot to do with the fact that there are less Jehovah’s Witnesses in my area today. That said, we always sort of “fudged” on the reports anyway. It is not that we necessarily lied, but we would count every minute possible and did so quite liberally. In fact, the elders encouraged us to do so. Virtually any conversation we had about the faith with anybody (excepting JWs) we counted for the month. I would be willing to bet the farm on the fact that the true service time is actually much less than what is reported by the Watchtower. Furthermore, I think this is kind of an open secret, as I think pretty much all JWs (including Brooklyn) understand that the time reported is inflated.

As far as their tactics, they have absolutely changed in my area. Like I mentioned, they are not nearly as confrontational (if that is the right word?) about the faith and not nearly as engaging when sharing it. For the past decade, they pretty much just had the track/magazine and say the rehearsed lines and move on. When I spoke to some of my extended family about this, who are still in the JW organization, they mentioned that it is a shift in tactics. I’m not sure if it is just for my general area or whether this newer shift is going on elsewhere as well.
 
Hello all. 🙂

I was talking with some of my companions about our preaching work. We have lots of new stuff happening these days with contacting people of different languages, website articles and advertising in public places. At least - it seems so to us.

I am interested in peoples opinion on this question regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses:

“Is Jehovah’s Witnesses’ preaching of their Bible message increasing in scope, or is it fading away?”

What do you think? Opinions please. 😉
JWs are among the most effective evangelists, but those who are raised JW are not likely to remain so. The long-term retention rate of converts is also not stellar. On balance with the overall competitiveness of the global religious marketplace, JWs are keeping up but there’s a lot that is dragging them down as well. Taken together, it isn’t fading away but is advancing at a slow rate, especially relative to their evangelism and conversions taken on their own. Everything taken together, however, it’s a situation where JWs take approximately 10 steps forward and 8 steps backward, although those 10 steps are more highly visible and the 8 steps are less obvious to the casual observer.
 
I haven’t seen them knocking on doors around here in years and years.
 
I see them with their portable book stand set up in many places, usually two women. Once in a while a young girl will approach me with a bible when I am waiting at the bus stop in the morning, and read a passage and tell me what she thinks it means. I don’t find JW’s offensive at all. They are always polite and will go away if you say you aren’t interested.
 
They use to knock on our door a few time’s a year, but no visit’s for the last two year’s here. We still see them walking around in town though monthly.
 
I think it depends on what you see as increasing or fading and that there is no precise answer. I do believe things are different from my perspective that might be an odd one.

You see, I come from a religiously diverse household. Mainly Catholic and a family that was large and that often included cousins and friends who are still treated like relatives. We had Pentecostals, Mormons, and even Jehovah’s Witnesses. Imagine being in a Catholic school and church during the week, Mormon family nights on Monday, Kingdom Hall twice during the week, Pentecostal Sunday school and Mormon sacrament meetings on Sunday. We had it all!

While I did not choose to enter the JW religion as an adult, I do remember that when I was a kid in the 1970s and 80s it seemed like the Witnesses were everywhere. At least in my town. Before the 1975 debacle happened there was great excitement. I remember how proud, close-knit and happy my JW friends Ann, Robert, and Leshaun were before then. Witnesses were always going down each and every street, dressed so neatly, with their two-colored magazines called Watchtower and Awake. There were these bumper stickers on cars and placed on most of the newspaper stands around town that read: “Jehovah is coming!” I know that a lot of people say it never happened but it did. It was in the Witness books, meetings, and reported on in the news. It was official stuff but you can’t find a trace of anything anymore because most of it was destroyed after 75 disappointed so many of us. Everybody really believed the world was going to end in 1975, except for my Pentecostal and LDS family members of course and my Catholic ones who thought we were just crazy.

But things changed after 1975 came and went. Overnight my JW friends changed and we started drifting away. The Witnesses were seen on the streets less and less. The books they gave us were different too, more colorful but fewer. I remember that a 1985 convention held in the Astrodome in Houston, Texas holding some 40,000 people was to be the last of its kind in our area. And when some problems behind closed doors of our Kingdom Hall and an argument happened over whether or not Armageddon was going to come before the year 2000 and whether our family would die for having Catholics in it became an issue, well that was the end of the Kingdom Hall meetings for our family.

I never went back to a Kingdom Hall or heard from the Witnesses again for a long time. I never saw them come down my street again or even when I moved I heard or saw nothing of them. I forgot about them almost until finally, maybe after 15 years or so after I had grown and moved to another town that some came to my door. The man with his child stumbled a lot through his presentation and promised to return, but after a year of waiting for him I gave up. Before moving again a young lady had a colored sheet of paper with Jesus on it inviting me to their yearly communion meeting, but she was so nervous that with a smile and a few words explaining I was attending my own church on the same date was all it took for her to almost run away.

Things have really changed. I recently discovered that the Witnesses mainly distribute their message on the Internet and that now they do it on Internet tv like Roku. In the 70s and 80s we were taught that television evangelism cheapened the message of the Bible and that the Witnesses would never do such a thing ever. And I remember a traveling overseer coming to the Kingdom Hall and telling us that we could not stand on street corners displaying Watchtowers and Bibles on tables and expect to remain good Jehovah’s Witnesses. But I understand that is what a lot do today some 30 years after some faithful Witnesses were punished in my area for doing so.

I’m not saying it’s a bad thing that they have changed. I am saying it looks good and impressive. And while I am sure the message is not the same because we are now living in a year they said would never ever come, it does look like they have finally accepted to be like the other churches they use to criticize and condemn. Their website is flashy and sleek but it looks like stuff the Mormons have been putting out for some time on the worldwide web and the new JW logo looks like the one the White House has been using called WH.org.

But even though we don’t see them like we used to, it interesting to see they are open to change and even do so by making 360s in the process. I don’t think we will ever see them regularly going door to door like we did before 1975 but then I also understand they are a kinder and less aggressive people today too or so I hope. It is strange that no one from the Witnesses ever came to see me after we stopped going because the Mormons still stop by to see hello even though everyone is Catholic now in my family.

Come to think of it the Pentecostals have never came by to say HI once uncle Joe and aunt Marie stopped going there too.
 
Jehovah’s Witnesses are increasing in numbers every year, about 5 years back they were just over 7million members they are now just over 8 million, if it was so that there work has decreased or faded then there wouldn’t be that much of an increase in numbers. I understand the tactics you see them using is to get hold of more people like the ones they don’t get at home or that are hardly at home, but they are still very much visible where I’m from, there door to door preaching still remains there main work regardless of all the other preaching methods used
 
they are in my area probably once every month or two and come to my house directly, every three months
 
I had a wonderful visit with some old JW friends of mine and asked them about this subject so I thought I should add what I learned from them.

According to their 2014 report of activity, in the United States the overall growth rate was 2%. In some areas you will notice more Witnesses but in others there are fewer, so what one sees in their area is never a perfect indicator of how their activity is going.

More than two-thirds of new ones are children of people who are already Jehovah’s Witnesses, if not more, but another argued that it has to be the other way around. In Western countries the growth is on average around 1%, but this is due to saturation and growth or lack thereof is different that how active they are in their work. In developing countries their numbers and growth (according to my friends) is incredible and unmatched. When mentioning that I understood that the LDS has a better growth rate, they stated it was unlikely.

However there is a downside. While their activity is in no way decreasing, more and more of the children in the US are leaving their religion. They said the leadership has stated in a recent annual televised meeting that parents may be responsible for this disturbing trend. To counter this we should be noticing even greater effort on their part so, they told me, if we have not seen more activity lately do expect to. Most Witnesses families, they told me, were nevertheless exemplary as they put it.

And they also added that even though the end of the world did not occur when some expected or hoped in the past, they are sure the present system of things cannot last much longer, maybe even less than five years till the end! As evidence of this, they said, we might expect their preaching activity to increase. They claimed that their website is the most visited site in history in more languages than any other and that this too should be a sign to us “unbelievers” that their work is backed by Jehovah, increasing and keeping up with the times, and that the world is ending sooner than we think!

Not sure if I agree with them or see things in the same light, but if I wrote this correctly then this should be an accurate view of how they see themselves and their preaching.
 
The husband reminded me to say they were very considerate and almost Mormon in their demeanor (he was once LDS), and we both noted how technological their were, using an iPad to look up Scriptures and show us things. We never had stuff like that when I was a kid. 😉
 
Hello all. 🙂

I was talking with some of my companions about our preaching work. We have lots of new stuff happening these days with contacting people of different languages, website articles and advertising in public places. At least - it seems so to us.

I am interested in peoples opinion on this question regarding Jehovah’s Witnesses:

“Is Jehovah’s Witnesses’ preaching of their Bible message increasing in scope, or is it fading away?”

What do you think? Opinions please. 😉
I have noticed a decline of visits in my hometown, however, when I went to visit my daughter in a small Texas town, she had several people come by in just a few weeks, right after they moved in.
 
I had to take someone to the hospital.

In the waiting room I saw two Watchtower booklets. “Oh, no…here we go again…what will they be saying against Catholics now in these issues…:”

Well, both of them said nothing against Catholics this time…first time I noticed the change although these are the firsts I have come across for several years.
 
The JWs used to come to my door every two to three weeks (or so it seemed), but since I put that statue of the Virgin Mary in my front yard over a year ago, I have not seen them since! :confused:
 
Hmm… I get the real frequently… My neighbor is a JW and he seems pretty nice but did try giving me some literature. But I do get ALOT of Mormon Missionaries and JW’s about once every two months. But, I do live in Idaho (Mormon Belt) and its so small I think there area is just low in numbers (3000 people) so that is why. 🤷
 
Jehovah’s Witnesses are increasing in numbers every year, about 5 years back they were just over 7million members they are now just over 8 million, if it was so that there work has decreased or faded then there wouldn’t be that much of an increase in numbers. I understand the tactics you see them using is to get hold of more people like the ones they don’t get at home or that are hardly at home, but they are still very much visible where I’m from, there door to door preaching still remains there main work regardless of all the other preaching methods used
Thanks.
That is a very accurate post using good logic.
We are using different methods for that very reason - to contact more people.
And your statistics about the increase of our preachers (we only count active preachers) are accurate. 🙂
 
JWs are among the most effective evangelists, but those who are raised JW are not likely to remain so. The long-term retention rate of converts is also not stellar. …
You are right. 👍
I heard only about one third who are raised JW’s get baptised and remain in the organisation. (We don’t baptise uncomprehending infants remember.)
By far the majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses are people from other religions and faiths who, as reasoning adults study the evidence and make an informed decision to dedicate their lives to what they now believe is the truth.
Therefore, even with the loss of 2/3, the increase because of convinced reasoning people results in 2 or 3% growth every year.

I find that very interesting.
Many people just stay with whatever religion they were born into (even if they don’t believe it). 🤷
Other may change their religion to one that suits them. (This religion lets me to that or won’t make me to this) :rolleyes:

But most JW’s have changed their lives to suit their religion because they genuinely believe it is the truth. I think that is something.

No wonder they are motivated to go out and tell others about what they believe (something very unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses). They are actually convinced of what they believe and can prove it. 🙂

Very cool.

If the prophecy Jesus gave at Matthew 24:14 is to be fullfilled, I expect it will be by people convinced of what they believe. 😃
 
They use to knock on our door a few time’s a year, but no visit’s for the last two year’s here. We still see them walking around in town though monthly.
You must have been put on their list of “Do not Calls” that they reserve for rude angry people!
What did you say to them! 😃

Maybe one of them took it the wrong way or was too sensitive.

Next time you see them you must approach them and say: “There must have been some misunderstanding last time someone called. I am interested in the Bible really!” 😉
 
In the 1980’s when they knocked on our doors they would stick their foot in the door the moment you opened it and were very aggressive. (Not sure if it was one particular group or not). They seem to be completely different today and I have enjoyed a debate or two with them.
 
In the 1980’s when they knocked on our doors they would stick their foot in the door the moment you opened it and were very aggressive. (Not sure if it was one particular group or not). They seem to be completely different today and I have enjoyed a debate or two with them.
I haven’t seen them stick their foot in the door in this area.
 
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