Jehovah's Witness

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Yes, they are a cult, IMO (and I’m sure I’m not the only one). Had one at my door just last wk, going door to door with his granddaughter, a sweet looking girl about 9 or 10. He admitted he was a former Lutheran, and I listened politely trying to remember the counter-arguments and witnessing about Catholicism I hoped to do should the situation arise. 😦 My heart sank when he told me his wife was a former Catholic; claimed she’d never been told about the Trinity!! After talking for a bit, I asked if he would be willing to come back after I gathered some information; just to watch a video? No, he said, he was here to teach not to learn.

He used tactics of pointing out various unrelated scriptures. challenged him on where the Bible originated from, who set the canon of scripture, and by what authority the translation was made. I asked him whose names were in his Bible. There are none (yeah, I know why). He claims it is bc the authors don’t want to take any credit! So no way to trace scholarship.

I, too, study more about RC when challenged by other religions. I just end up getting strengthened. If this JW comes back, I will thank him for that! 😃

Please pray for Larry, his wife, and his family, that they return wholeheartedly to the True Church that Jesus Christ founded. We parted in charity; asked God to bless them, and said my rosary for their re-conversion that night.

Peace,
Mimi
 
carol marie:
Hi Badebop,
You are correct, they do have typically drive very nice cars… they need one that can hold alot of people for the work they do going “door to door.” I can assure you though that other than the car, they live very modestly. Higher education is strongly discouraged so most JW’s have only a high school education at best. They don’t really care about having some high powered career because they believe the end of this system of things is going to happen any day now. Likewise with a fancy house. It just isn’t important or valued in the least. I knew very very few afluent JW’s and the one or two who were became JW’s later in life.

Although your theory is interesting, it just isn’t true based on my personal experience. To them it really IS all about their beliefs and having been brainwashed into thinking they are serving Jehovah God.

God Bless,
CM
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Thanks CM for your (name removed by moderator)ut…you’re probably right. Here’s how I came about my theory. I had a very nice father and daughter visit me three times, my invitation, until I started taking the initative and they called it quits. A few months later I met them again at a local Subway as they were getting out of their car…a BIG Mercedes-Benz convertable…and they were very stylishly dressed at that. You could tell they were rather embarrassed to see me. I couldn’t get much of a conversation with them.
 
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Asella:
People who are not very knowledgable about their faith can be easily sucked in by Jehovah’s Witnesses. They have a very clever way of answering questions which makes their religion sound like the true religion. I was a lukewarm Catholic for awhile, and I befriended many Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Witnesses are very friendly and are conditioned to have an answer for everything. When we would discuss religion, it seemed like their religion was perfect and their beliefs were perfect. It was very deceiving. My friendship with the Witnesses caused me to look deeper into my faith, and as a result I became a much more devoted and knowledgable Catholic. It’s funny to think that the Witnesses helped me become a better Catholic! 😃
However, my story is unique–most of the time a lapsed Catholic who is looking for answers will be drawn into a group such as the JWs.
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You know it is amazing that all of us Catholics can be sucked into alternate religions, sects if we don’t know our faith! While the Catholic faith can be quite overwhelming due to its 2000 + year history, the point is just that. There are so many books, literature, publications, etc. We need to continue to learn everyday, and then pray for our seperated friends. I try to especially pray for those of Mormon & JW faith.
 
I only know one JW. She is a good work friend of mine, though we do not socialize outside of the job. She is very obedient to her faith, goes to all “the meetings,” goes “out in service,” etc. She gives me pamphlets which I politely accept and stick in the bottom of my desk drawer. I have just in the last year began my journey home to the Catholic church, so I do not feel qualilfied enough to evangelize with her, but she does know that I was baptized Catholic at birth and am coming home. One thing that I do notice is that her faith does not seem to sustain her. I don’t know any other JW’s, so I don’t know if this is just how my friend is or if that religion lacks spirituality. From the outside looking in, there does not seem to be much true worship going on there.

Sherilo
 
J-Dubs have a special place in my heart, a pretty painful place…my ex-g/f was one. If I had known she was one before we started dating it would have never happened but it did.

I’m pretty slow so even when she asked me if I believed Jesus was God I didn’t think anything was ‘wrong’ . I was under the impression that she was Christian. Almost as soon as I found out our relationship started having problems, and then eventually we broke up.

But I really care about her still and she is trying to start it up again, I don’t know what to do. I’m almost absolutely sure it will go no where, if only better judgement were easy to live by…

But after this last time we broke up I would have to say I’ve changed a lot (it’s been awhile). I’m more interested in my faith than ever, and it shows at work, where we see eachother every day. I’m thinking I will just have to be good friends, if that’s possible…
 
When I was a teenager, I lived in a low-income housing project while attending a Jesuit prep school on scholarship. I had also had an interest in Latin and Greek from a very early age.

One day, two men knocked at my door. It turned out they were JWs. They were very nice and seemed sincere, but they were woefully ignorant of anything beyond what their leaders had told them. They had no Greek and little theology.

After insisting that Catholics worship Mary and genuflect to crucifixes (which are, of course, derived from Egyptian phallic symbols), they offered to teach me about the Bible. I went inside and got my Greek and Vulgate New Testament. The two gentleman looked like this: :eek: :eek: .

I explained from a basic Greek grammar that their bizarre translation of John 1:1 was simply impossible. I asked them if mistranslation was something God would want. I followed them to their car asking if they would like some free Greek lessons to help their Bible study. They declined my offer and some scapulars.

They did not visit me again, which really bothered me. They could have used some Greek.
 
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When I was a teenager, I lived in a low-income housing project while attending a Jesuit prep school on scholarship. I had also had an interest in Latin and Greek from a very early age.

One day, two men knocked at my door. It turned out they were JWs. They were very nice and seemed sincere, but they were woefully ignorant of anything beyond what their leaders had told them. They had no Greek and little theology.

After insisting that Catholics worship Mary and genuflect to crucifixes (which are, of course, derived from Egyptian phallic symbols), they offered to teach me about the Bible. I went inside and got my Greek and Vulgate New Testament. The two gentleman looked like this: :eek: :eek: .

I explained from a basic Greek grammar that their bizarre translation of John 1:1 was simply impossible. I asked them if mistranslation was something God would want. I followed them to their car asking if they would like some free Greek lessons to help their Bible study. They declined my offer and some scapulars.

They did not visit me again, which really bothered me. They could have used some Greek.
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I probably shouldn’t laugh… but I’m picturing you following behind them offering to give them Greek lessons - that is just too funny. I am sure they were freaked out. You are correct - they truly only know what they’ve been told. What they’ve been told they know VERY WELL however.

I’m not suprised that they came to you when you were in low income housing. JW’s always take advantage of someone’s situation and if a person is living in poverty, all the easier to convince them that “soon the earth will be a paradise.”
 
carol marie:

Yes, I can just imagine what they felt as a kid in the projects brings out a Greek and Latin NT.

The JWs have a vey interesting translation of the Bible. Worth looking at if you have a critique of it handy. You can learn a lot from it…about mistranslation.
 
That’s the sad thing about the Witnesses - they are very quick to offer criticism of other religions, but when someone tries to engage them in a reasoned refutation of their own belliefs, for the most part they will not listen because it might “cause doubts”. They are also instructed not to read any literature that offers a critical analysis. Under those circumstances, I guess anyone could offer up a set of beliefs that seem to “all make sense”. It’s a closed system.
 
new to the forum but felt I had to tell my story on J.W.My husband and family were all born and brought up catholic .His mother went to mass every morning.then one day one of his sisters announced she was being baptised into JW,THEN IT WAS LIKE SHEEP TO THE SLAUGHTER.one by one they followed untill all of his four sisters and even his mum were hooked.It caused a lot of hurt and arguements between my husband and his family.They would NOT attend our three daughters baptism,holy communion not even their wedding.oh they would attend the celebratoins after the ceremony THEY WOULD NOT STEP INSIDE THE CHURCH.(were they afraid of feeling something) when my mother -in law died they were amazed that I attended their service in the kingdom hall.when I look back they all had some sort of problem in their lives.for me this was an excuse not a reason to turn your back on your faith.
 
Welcome to the forums! 🙂

How sad that your husband basically “lost” his family to the JW’s. I’m not at all suprised that they refused to attend the important milestones in your children’s lives at church. It’s true - they are so afraid (and actually forbidden) to go into any church. I feel so sorry for them - JW’s are so brainwashed into thinking that they are right. They literally can’t see things any other way. But some come out of it - I did, so keep praying for them.

Blessings to you!
CM
 
When I was younger, my babysitter was JW. She was a nice lady, but now I just wish I would have had a different babysitter. Since they don’t believe in Holidays like Christmas or even Thanksgiving (and they consider the American flag to be an idol!) they have lots of money and can buy new cars with cold hard CASH.

My mom called me one time to warn me they were in the neighborhood area. So, I don’t answer the door when I know that. I also don’t answer the door when the Mormons come.

If someone was badly injured and needed a blood transfusion, they would let that person DIE, rather than be healed.

I have never understood their negativity against birthdays either.

there was a JW on this star wars fansite I am on and he posted in the Catholicism thread (there’s a forum for debating things, and there are threads on religion like Mormonism (I don’t dare go there and say they’re a cult since there’s a mormon who is a Moderator and I’d get banned) of all places (probably trying to tell the Catholics they are wrong! :rolleyes:) and I said that GOD would never deny me a blood transfusion if I needed one to save my life, and celebrating a birthday isn’t evil. We had just celebrated (or were going to my nephew’s 4th birthday at the time (but I didn’t mention that).

But he then quoted some stuff from the bible (well, gave me passages) and I read them, but they had to do with ANIMAL BLOOD not human blood. :rolleyes:

Are they vegeterians you have to wonder…

I just hate it when we have to drive by the Kingdom Hall. Someday I hope all the Kingdom Hall buildings are bulldozed when people realize they are truly a cult.
 
I have a couple of friends -former co-worker amd former class mate who are JW. I can’t say I would want their hall bull dozed. That would be rather uncharitable, don’t you think ???

I pray for them, as some of what I hear about their beliefs are a bit off the wall. I suppose just about anything can be mis-interpreted if you give it just the right spin. It’s a lot like what the evangelicals do with the Bible to spout out anti-Catholic sentiments.

I haven’t been “witnessed to” but I’d be curious to get into an in depth discussion with one or two of them. I have enough confidence in my own faith that I think I can give them a pretty good run for their money.

I’d try to be real careful of course, 'cause I wouldn’t want to end up as a JW, now would I ???
 
I really wanted to know more about the JW’s because I have a friend who belongs to the cult and he thinks that the Catholic Church is false so I gathered as much information as I could to show him how false his cult is. There is a great web site where you can find anything you want to know about this cult: go to www.catholicapologetics.net and then click on apologetic articles. Tremendous web site, huge amount of information( the JW’s is just a section).
 
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