Jehovas witness

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When I had lost three members of my family in nine months, it was of course, a grievous time. It was also a time when we were more open to letting people into our homes without automatically thinking creepy possible criminal. So, one day, while still reeling, my mother, God rest her soul, benevolently received a JW into the house; her main reason was the fact that her best friend was a JW. My mother had no intention of changing her own faith; she simply wanted to understand her friend’s faith. When the JW started to preach with first hand knowledge :confused: as to what was happening to my dead family I became a little testy. Forget theology and doctrines for a moment: she told me that she knew for a fact my family was simply rotting in the ground. “How rude and hurtful to say it that way. And how do you know this for a fact?” I asked. She replied, and get this:** I just do.**
“A ha,” I said. “What, then, is your definition of faith?” She never answered that question. I then asked several questions regarding specific scriptures on the matter and others and she could not respond to any, all the while stating that the Bible is to be lived literally. “Well, if that’s true, wouldn’t you only own one pair of shoes?” (Can’t quote now, but I knew it then.) Again, a dumbfounded look to her face. There is no doubt I was testy, but I kept my cool, at least in front of her. I was also only 16; not as wise in compassion, respect, et al. In the end, my kindly mother politely took the Watchtower pamphlet and asked the woman to leave. “This is enough. You are upsetting my daughter.” And out of character for my mother, she added something to the effect of, “None of that makes any sense as anything I’ve ever read in the Bible. Nor does it make sense, period.”
After that, my mother and I read from the Bible on the subjects raised.
Not that we needed to per se; we knew what was there.But it was gratifying to reaffirm what we already knew and to see it print. Again.
What’s odd; my mother was not particularly or outwardly obeservant/religious, yet she always knew to be gently firm in her faith, gently firm in her life, and lived a very Christian life by way of example; one of love.

And I’m not just saying that because she was my mother. I hope she is helping with the tending of the animals and teaching my baby all about them.
 
i wanted to add by saying that the jw’s who i know have told me that they are not really allowed or greatly discouraged from attending university because they believe that they would be corrupted by the world. but remember that they are human beings with same need of the love of god and the friendship of others. Through prayer we will gain some of them i am sure.
praise !!
 
Michael Jackson was a JW. Was he exempt from proselytizing because of his notoriety?
 
oh, and as an addendum to my story:
not long later, my mother’s friend was told to shun her own daughter, when the daughter decided that being a JW did not make any sense to her in so many ways. THAT’S what it took for my mother’s best friend to leave after many decades. My mother thought it to be unChristian, her friend agreed!!
 
Michael Jackson was a JW. Was he exempt from proselytizing because of his notoriety?
First of all, there is not just one way to evangelize. We have no idea whatsoever what MJ did in his private life. In addition, there is no proof as to what religion he was or wasn’t throughout his life, only rumors of. His parents were JW…one of his brothers is muslim, and MJ was said to have tried various religions in the course of his life. There is no proof for or against any evanglization efforts even if he was JW…
 
Dad, get your daughters a Miraculous Medal and a brown scapular, take them to Mass every Sunday, and get them into CCD. A JW neighbor, upon seeing my medal, has not approached me regarding my “conversion”. Up until then, she was more than egar to enlighten me.
 
oh, and as an addendum to my story:
not long later, my mother’s friend was told to shun her own daughter, when the daughter decided that being a JW did not make any sense to her in so many ways. THAT’S what it took for my mother’s best friend to leave after many decades. My mother thought it to be unChristian, her friend agreed!!
Unfortunately, the JW religion preys on a JW’s human desire for love and desire interaction with peers. It’s comparable to a cult. It is a cult. Fortunately, when faced with a shunning incident, shunning can drive a JW away from the Watchtower. But unfortunately, that same drive can keep a JW in line and in conformity, which is why it’s dangerous. When they’re in deep, they’re in deep. It takes a lot to get them away from their faith if their faith is strong, just like with any other faithful.

My friend who is a JW can continue to see her “fallen away” son simply because she continues to try and bring him back to the JW faith.
 
First of all, there is not just one way to evangelize. We have no idea whatsoever what MJ did in his private life. In addition, there is no proof as to what religion he was or wasn’t throughout his life, only rumors of. His parents were JW…one of his brothers is muslim, and MJ was said to have tried various religions in the course of his life. There is no proof for or against any evanglization efforts even if he was JW…
Oh, I know. Was just curious as to what exceptions or accomodations would be made for a famous JW; that’s all…
 
Now after saying all that, I will say that I work with several JW’s, and they are generally honest and decent people. However, they cannot leave the cult because they would be “disfellowshipped” by their family and friends. My advice to you is to become as actively involved as you can in your children’s spiritual development so that they will be able to stand in the truth of Christ and His Church.
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The current book used by Jehovah’s Witnesses to explain their faith is called What Does the Bible Really Teach? It’s available in several formats on their website. Reading that book is a good way to know the sorts of claims and reasoning a person might be exposed to should they enter into theological discussion with a Jehovah’s Witness. However, I really don’t think that the tenant would enter into such a discussion with children without parental presence and/or approval.

jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/
I wish the above bolded portion could be counted on as truth but sadly I can vouch for the fact that it is not necessarly the case. There view is every soul is up to them to save without consideration of parental values or beliefs.😦

Peace!!!
 
Hebrews 1 absolutely destroys their argument regarding Jesus as Michael the archangel. Also Acts chapter 2 describes the Holy Spirit as a person. Something else they refuse in their doctrine. God help them.
 
I wish the above bolded portion could be counted on as truth but sadly I can vouch for the fact that it is not necessarly the case. There view is every soul is up to them to save without consideration of parental values or beliefs.😦

Peace!!!
Many years ago my 12 year old cousin and her 10 year old sister were converted by them.
They visited after school and before their working single mom got home.
This is the behavior of á cult.
Its also kind of scary they actually entered into the house.
They were both girls.
 
thank you for these comments. At least the tennant is ‘of faith’ It might be good for the kids to see a young person with belief… Hopefully theology can be avoided.
But why avoid theology? It should not be avoided.
 
Be prepared to answer questions:

Why do we worship on Sunday and not the Sabbath?
Why do you believe Jesus is God?
They believe Jesus is Michael the ArcAngel
They believe Jesus did not die on a cross but on a stake
The Jehovah’s Witnesses are not concerned with Saturday / Sabbath ( those are the SDA’s and WWCOG )…
…Everything else applies however.
 
Here is one thing to keep an eye on and what I’ve found usually terminates JW’s promulgating their faith…
…As others have said the Witnesses reject the Trinity & claim Christ had a “conditional deity” that the real God.
…Issued to creature christ similar to how the State you live in issues you a Drivers License.

Now, as with the Drivers License the JW’s ( Seventh-day Adventists , Christadelphians, WWCOG ) believe…
…That it was possible for Jesus to screw up, to sin and incur the wrath of ‘God’ in which God would have eternally annihilated creature christ.
…This may come as shocking to some who don’t know this is what they are up to but it’s better to be prepared.

As others have mentioned the JW’s have been trained ( and well I might add ) to deal with Scripture in almost a martial art manner…
…They are trained if someone says such and such then they say such and such.
…It makes it look to the under-educated that they really know their Bible. Which they DON’T.

This is where knowing the basics about the Trinity will knock them totally off their base and wanting to stop preaching asap…
…You simply need to “show them” where in their own Bible that Christ was 100% a sure thing.
…There was NO POSSIBILITY of Christ sinning and loosing His Salvation.
…Why, Because Jesus was ‘God’.

Scripture is VERY clear that ONLY God’s Purposes are without failure…
…And Scripture records “GOD” ( Father, Son & Holy Spirit ) affirming that Jesus IS the Christ.
…And that there would be no failure, God would come & God would save.

I’ve collected nearly 100 explicit affirmations that directly uphold the Catholic Teaching of the impeccability of Christ…
…All these groups that reject the Trinity, after someone is warm and fuzzy introduce their APEX Doctrine.
…Called the peccability of Christ! ( They teach Christ could have mutated into a sinner & then eternally could have ceased to exist ).
 
As others have mentioned the JW’s have been trained ( and well I might add ) to deal with Scripture in almost a martial art manner…
…They are trained if someone says such and such then they say such and such.
…It makes it look to the under-educated that they really know their Bible. Which they DON’T.
All well said.

I hate to say it but, on three occaisons, I had a couple of JWs silently walking away, gaping looks of ''say what?!" on their faces, and scatching their heads. And it didn’t take much. For the record, I was not unkind, unChristian, or in any way inappropriate.
 
All well said.

I hate to say it but, on three occaisons, I had a couple of JWs silently walking away, gaping looks of ''say what?!" on their faces, and scatching their heads. And it didn’t take much. For the record, I was not unkind, unChristian, or in any way inappropriate.
I can’t over emphasize enough the absolute importance of being grounded in basic Catholic teaching on the Trinity…
…These are principles that once grasped will have the Scriptures yeild bomb after bomb that destroy heretical teaching.
…That the JW’s, SDA’s and other arian like groups advocate.

The key is to go slow with study and ASK questions of your Priest, read and KNOW your Bible and pray, pray, pray!
…Doing those things will literally turn the Jehovah’s Witnesses into veal calves.
 
Jehovah Wirnesses teach the ancient heresy of Arianism. They also teach “soul sleep”.
 
I can’t over emphasize enough the absolute importance of being grounded in basic Catholic teaching on the Trinity…
…These are principles that once grasped will have the Scriptures yeild bomb after bomb that destroy heretical teaching.
…That the JW’s, SDA’s and other arian like groups advocate.

The key is to go slow with study and ASK questions of your Priest, read and KNOW your Bible and pray, pray, pray!
…Doing those things will literally turn the Jehovah’s Witnesses into veal calves.
while being a kindly Christian…
 
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