Jerusalem after 70 AD

[Crown_of_Stars]

I can’t find a simple answer to the question I have regarding the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
After the Temple was destroyed by fire, did the City of Jerusalem remain an abandoned, deserted ruin? Were people trying to rebuild it? Was it uninhabited? And would there have been any Roman soldiers left, wandering about the area?
Thankyou for any answers.

 

[GEddie]

I can’t find a simple answer to the question I have regarding the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
After the Temple was destroyed by fire, did the City of Jerusalem remain an abandoned, deserted ruin? Were people trying to rebuild it? Was it uninhabited? And would there have been any Roman soldiers left, wandering about the area?
Thankyou for any answers.

Although Jews were barred from Jerusalem after the war, Christians and others returned. For a time, a Christian church stood atop the remnants of the Temple (site of the present Dome of the Rock).

The Roman Tenth Legion remained based in the area well into the 100s. Jerusalem was rebuilt as the Roman city Aelia Capitolina.

ICXC NIKA

 

[patrick457]

Although Jews were barred from Jerusalem after the war, …] Jerusalem was rebuilt as the Roman city Aelia Capitolina.

ICXC NIKA

These only happened after the Bar Kochba revolt of the 120s. That’s around fifty years after AD 70.

 

[jcrichton]

I can’t find a simple answer to the question I have regarding the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
After the Temple was destroyed by fire, did the City of Jerusalem remain an abandoned, deserted ruin? Were people trying to rebuild it? Was it uninhabited? And would there have been any Roman soldiers left, wandering about the area?
Thankyou for any answers.

Hi!
…here’s some info on this event:

Now as soon as the army had no more people to slay or to plunder, because there remained none to be the objects of their fury (for they would not have spared any, had there remained any other work to be done), [Titus] Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and Temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing as they were of the greatest eminence; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Mariamne; and so much of the wall enclosed the city on the west side. This wall was spared, in order to afford a camp for such as were to lie in garrison [in the Upper City], as were the towers [the three forts] also spared, in order to demonstrate to posterity what kind of city it was, and how well fortified, which the Roman valor had subdued; but for all the rest of the wall [surrounding Jerusalem], it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it [Jerusalem] had ever been inhabited.

Josephus claims that 1.1 million people were killed during the siege, of which a majority were Jewish, and that 97,000 were captured and enslaved, including Simon bar Giora and John of Giscala.[12] His figures are rejected as impossible by modern scholarship, since around the time about a million people lived in Palestine, probably about half of them were Jews, and sizable Jewish populations remained in the area after the war was over, even in the hard-hit region of Judea.[13]

Many fled to areas around the Mediterranean. Titus reportedly refused to accept a wreath of victory, saying that the victory did not come through his own efforts but that he had merely served as an instrument of God’s wrath.[14] (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(AD_70))

The siege of Jerusalem ended in it’s complete destruction and its people running for their lives–interestingly enough the prevailing thought is that Titus did not intend to bring it to such level of destruction but both the actions of those under siege and those besieging accelerated the onslaught and destruction… to the point of the Temple being completely razed, which brings to fulfillment Christ’s prophecy:

1 And as he was going out of the temple, one of his disciples said to him: Master, behold what manner of stones and what buildings are here. 2 And Jesus answering, said to him: Seest thou all these great buildings? There shall not be left a stone upon a stone, that shall not be thrown down. (St. Mark 13:1-2)

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[PNEUMA]

I can’t find a simple answer to the question I have regarding the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
After the Temple was destroyed by fire, did the City of Jerusalem remain an abandoned, deserted ruin? Were people trying to rebuild it? Was it uninhabited? And would there have been any Roman soldiers left, wandering about the area?
Thankyou for any answers.

As in every war, some are on the side of the enemy, like Josephus. And they remained in the city, with the enemy.

 

[PJM]

I can’t find a simple answer to the question I have regarding the Fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD.
After the Temple was destroyed by fire, did the City of Jerusalem remain an abandoned, deserted ruin? Were people trying to rebuild it? Was it uninhabited? And would there have been any Roman soldiers left, wandering about the area?
Thankyou for any answers.

I think you’ll find these sites informative on this topic

June 1989

The non- Christian Jews rebuilt the temple centuries later, after having again been held captive by Romans.

Rebuilding the Jewish Temple, in 363 A.D.

God Bless you

PJM

 

[GEddie]

Although an attempt was made to rebuild the temple in 363, it was abandoned, and the sacrifice and priesthood were never resumed. Jewish history states that the sacrifice ended in the 3800s (Jewish calendar) and never resumed.

The presence of the Dome of the Rock since 691 precludes rebuilding of the temple under foreseeable world conditions.

ICXC NIKA

 

[patrick457]

Although an attempt was made to rebuild the temple in 363, it was abandoned, and the sacrifice and priesthood were never resumed. Jewish history states that the sacrifice ended in the 3800s (Jewish calendar) and never resumed.

An attempt was made in 363 (authorized by Julian the Apostate), and there was a second one during 610-615, when the Sassanids drove the Byzantines out and Jerusalem was (temporarily) in Jewish hands.

 

[PNEUMA]

Although an attempt was made to rebuild the temple in 363, it was abandoned, and the sacrifice and priesthood were never resumed. Jewish history states that the sacrifice ended in the 3800s (Jewish calendar) and never resumed.

The presence of the Dome of the Rock since 691 precludes rebuilding of the temple under foreseeable world conditions.

ICXC NIKA

As I understand, the Jewish priesthood was replaced by the Christian priesthood, the Jewish sacrifice by the Christian sacrifice and Jerusalem by the new Jerusalem.

A return of the old system, would be very strange.

 

[PJM]

As I understand, the Jewish priesthood was replaced by the Christian priesthood, the Jewish sacrifice by the Christian sacrifice and Jerusalem by the new Jerusalem.

A return of the old system, would be very strange.

Almost

Jewish priesthood by the Catholc & Orthodox Priesthood

Jewish sacrifice by the Most Holy Eucharist {Christ Himself}

And Jerusalem by the New Jerusalem {today’s RCC}

God Bless you

Patrick

 

[patrick457]

As I understand, the Jewish priesthood was replaced by the Christian priesthood, the Jewish sacrifice by the Christian sacrifice and Jerusalem by the new Jerusalem.

A return of the old system, would be very strange.

That’s because it was Jews that did that both times. Julian was apparently trying to get on the nerves of Christians by explicitly giving permission to the Jews to rebuild the Jerusalem Temple. And the Sassanids thought to reward the Jews who assisted them against the Byzantines - although they eventually gave the city back to the Christian majority.

 

[PNEUMA]

Almost

Jewish priesthood by the Catholc & Orthodox Priesthood

Jewish sacrifice by the Most Holy Eucharist {Christ Himself}

And Jerusalem by the New Jerusalem {today’s RCC}

God Bless you

Patrick

Do you think today’s Jews see this ? That the catholic priesthood are the true Jews ?

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2014/01/cardinals.jpg

 

[GEddie]

Do you think today’s Jews see this ? That the catholic priesthood are the true Jews ?

For the most part, no.

I’ve been told that the Catholic headgear shown in your pix is actually older than the Jewish head covering tradition.

ICXC NIKA

 

[patrick457]

For the most part, no.

I’ve been told that the Catholic headgear shown in your pix is actually older than the Jewish head covering tradition.

ICXC NIKA

You’re right. The zuccheto and the kippah (aka yarmulke) look the same, but they actually have different origins.

And yes, the stereotypical Jewish custom of wearing some variety of hat isn’t actually as old as you might think. It only became established among European Jewish communities in the 16th century and later, mainly as a way to visibly distinguish themselves from Christians.

Covering the head during religious functions is slightly older, but it started among Jews in Sassanid Persia (3rd-6th century) and only slowly gained traction as time went on. As late as the 12th-13th century, there were still Jewish communities in France who went bareheaded during religious ceremonies. Again, what motivated Jews to cover their head here were Christian custom: Christian men took off their their headwear during prayer, priests and bishops didn’t have their hats and mitres on when they said Mass, so Jews started to do the opposite and started to establish the custom of not being bareheaded when they prayed as the rule, to be different.

 

[PJM]

Do you think today’s Jews see this ? That the catholic priesthood are the true Jews ?

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/files/2014/01/cardinals.jpg
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2003/09/wearing-kippot.jpg

No, certainly not as you choose to state it.

The fact that they both wear a head covering only indicates {usually} a certain amount of religious faith belief, without expressing clearly just WHAT those beliefs are.

Not every “Jewish person,” Nor every “Catholic” person who covers their head in reality hold to ALL of the same beliefs, although that is the ideal.

God Bless you

Patrick