Jesuit oath true or false

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Rosie11 said:
I haven’t watched the video i don’t really watch anti catholic videos
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A) I didn’t ask if you’d watched it. I asked if HE had watched it.
B) It’s not an anti-Catholic video. It’s actually a video produced by the Pope’s Worldwide Prayer Network. The one your brother linked to in Messenger on YouTube is simply re-posted on another You Tube page with an anti-Catholic caption. The original video can be found here: The Pope Video | The Pope Video is a global initiative developed by the Pope's Worldwide Prayer Network (Apostleship of Prayer).
 
It looks to me like your brother is more likely in full blown conspiracy theorist mode, which might as well be a psychological disorder (or a symptom thereof), than a mere run of the mill anti-Catholic. If it weren’t Vatican-Illuminati, Jesuit oaths and the like then he’d be blathering on about 9/11 Trutherism, Flat Eartherism, Big Pharma Skepticism, etc.

Your brother might as well be in a cult, and like trying to unbrainwash a cult member talking sense to a conspiracy theorist is almost always entirely fruitless. These conspiracy theories are designed to be utterly unfalsifiable. The more and more evidence you show him that the theory is false the more and more he doubles down and to him that proves the Vatican (and perhaps you!) are crafty, cunning, evil people perpetuating whatever it is he says the Catholic Church is doing. Evidence that the conspiracy theory is nonsense is in fact more evidence of its veracity!

Seek professional help and/or pray for him. That’s about all you can do.
 
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, I was born a catholic but my parents sometimes switched to Protestantism especially when my mother first got cancer through the years she switched many times back and forth Catholic to Protestant-Protestant to Catholic but her last few years when she was really sick she switched to catholic and stayed that way right to the end she went to knock, medj, Lourdes, Fatima, Jerusalem looking for healing and even when she didn’t receive healing she never lost faith she died with rosary’s In her hand while the Devine mercy was playing next her bed a few hours before she died she was shown 2 cd’s Protestant (music) and Catholic (rosary-Devine mercy) she pointed to the catholic cd and she died while it was playing so if she believed in Catholism even on her death bed then so do i. I just don’t understand why he doesn’t see it like I do
 
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If this was true, the Jesuits would have to start first with their own order.
 
Rosie11 said:
He sent me this on messenger he also said the jesuits where the popes assassins and they killed people he’s always on YouTube watching anti catholic videos
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Your brother is either messing with you or he’s not the brightest bear in the woods. This is too silly to bother with.
 
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He sent me this on messenger he also said the jesuits where the popes assassins and they killed people he’s always on YouTube watching anti catholic videos
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More insanity.

The only “one world religion” we want is Christianity, in the Catholic form. However, we are not sending Jesuits to force it.

Watch the movie Silence. If the Jesuits couldn’t overthrow Japan, they surely are not going to be able to overpower protestants.

The whole thing is crazy
 
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Rosie11 said:
His reply…
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whoooooooo cares

You said in another thread you’re 19. You’re too old to be baited this easily. Ignore your brothers weird conspiracy theory YouTube stuff.

It sounds like your relationship with your brother isn’t super healthy. Maybe it’s time for you to move out and be on your own?
 
😂😂 move out of the house you know nothing about me or my culture I can just “move out” 😂😂😂
 
“Move out of the house” isn’t really such a crazy suggestion for a 19 year old, but alright. At bare minimum, stop letting your brothers mess with your head so much.
 
It is a crazy suggestion if your an unmarried Irish traveller who can’t even leave the house without a chaperone let alone move out but that’s besides the point
 
AlbertDerGrosse said:
It looks to me like your brother is more likely in full blown conspiracy theorist mode, which might as well be a psychological disorder (or a symptom thereof), than a mere run of the mill anti-Catholic. If it weren’t Vatican-Illuminati, Jesuit oaths and the like then he’d be blathering on about 9/11 Trutherism, Flat Eartherism, Big Pharma Skepticism, etc.
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These aren’t mutually exclusive either! Many years ago I would spend hours investigating these bizarre ideas (it all started with the 9/11 Truth Movement) and making rebuttals for them. I’d actively engage conspiracy theorists both online and in real life. I’ve never once succeeded in convincing a single person to give up their pet theories. In fact what I usually observed is that a conspiracy theorist starts with a pet theory and before you know it the propensity to believe this kind of whacky stuff makes them susceptible to believing other conspiracy theories.

One of my aunts is like this. She started with “skepticism” of science/medical organizations. She’d question the safety of GMOs, processed food, vaccines, etc. It started off as healthy skepticism, and as a molecular biologist myself I made sure to answer all her questions at Thanksgiving. Each year she’d go deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole until one Thanksgiving she was in full blown anti-Monsanto/Big Pharma is poisoning us with GMOs and vaccines territory. Then it was the government is poisoning us with water fluoridation. Now a few years later she’s posting 9/11 truther, Moon-landing hoax, JFK-assassination, Masonic/Vatican/Illuminati, you name it she buys it, stuff on Facebook.

I finally realized it isn’t good for my own state of mind to keep debunking her nonsense so I just completely disengaged. I don’t respond to her posts anymore. I don’t spend hours digging up facts for her that she’ll just ignore, or forget about in a couple hours when she gets distracted with her next YouTube chew toy. I don’t hate my aunt. I have immense pity on her because I frankly believe she is sick. Her whole thinking pattern is messed up such that she’s living in an entirely different reality.

Now you may want to disregard this and try to debunk everything your brother sends your way but I guarantee you you’ll get very tired of this. It will do a number on your own mental health and once you get to that point I hope you’ll take my advice and just let it go. When he starts going on about this stuff change the subject. If he’s incapable of doing so, walk away and don’t engage him.
 
Rosie11 said:
😂😂 move out of the house you know nothing about me or my culture I can just “move out” 😂😂😂
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Sorry Rosie, I didn’t know there were unique cultural issues in the mix here. Didn’t mean to cause offense.
 
Rosie, just stop. He is going to believe what he wants to believe. You are wasting your time.

And you are wasting OUR time. If you are not willing to take the time to research anything on your own, why should WE do research FOR you? You said you didn’t even watch the video he sent you.
 
HopkinsReb said:
If the Jesuits swore to torture and kill liberals, they’d be committing suicide all the time.
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Oh but don’t you see! The liberalism of modern Jesuitism is just a ruse so you don’t catch on to their nefarious plans! This in fact proves that the conspiracy theory is true!

This is what I meant about the conspiracy theorist’s doubling down in the theory even when there are issues about mutual exclusivity of the facts. My personal favorite is the talk of the Freemasons and the Vatican, or Muslims and the Vatican being in league with one another to control the world. OK. How do you explain the centuries long anti-Masonry of Catholicism? Or how about the freaking Crusades!? Spanish Inquisition?

Again, all ruses so that nobody catches on to their evil plans. I even hear now that Islam and Freemasonry were created by the Vatican so that there’s probable deniability. Of course! How come none of the world’s “intellectuals” have discovered this, yet Joe Average can in the comfort of his mother’s basement? They must be in on the conspiracy too! Wake up sheeple!!!
 
Because i don’t want videos to make me doubt my faith and I do a lot of research on my own I’m on bible study every night at 8pm I have a lot of books by the church fathers and some books by Scott Hahn and Tim staples but I’ve never knew about the jesuits until recently I don’t know much about them I thought people here would know more I can’t leave it the lies he’s telling it’s shocking
 
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