Jesus and His risen Body

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Ok, I hope I word this right. Jesus rose from the dead, and we know that His risen Body still had the marks of Crucifiction. We also know that He went up into heaven with His most Holy Body. So Is Jesus in heaven, in physical form as He looked when He was here?, And If so, what was his pysical prsence like BEFORE the incarnation?
 
Hi Matt, yes He probably looks the same (cause He has a Body) though glorified… not like an ‘ordinary person’. As for how He looked like before the Incarnation…to be honest I dont know cause Heaven is outside of time right? This is a very complex topic and we might not know the answer 😉
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(1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

(2) Credo… in unum Dominum Jesum Christum
Filium Dei unigenitum
Et ex Patre natum ante omnia secula
Deum de Deo, lumen de lumine, Deum vero
de Deo vero
Genitum non factum, consubstantialem Patri
per quem omnia facta sunt
Qui propter nos homines
et propter nostram salutem
descendit de coelis…

(3) We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven. …
 
So is his nature changed?
No, His nature never changed, nor is it changeable. God exists outside of time so we cannot say that something happened before (or after) some event. For God all things are happening NOW. Thus it is fair to say that the incarnation is always taking place as is His death and resurrection. This is why, in the Mass, we are able to be present at the foot of the cross for His crucifixion.

Deacon Ed
 
No, His nature never changed, nor is it changeable. God exists outside of time so we cannot say that something happened before (or after) some event. For God all things are happening NOW. Thus it is fair to say that the incarnation is always taking place as is His death and resurrection. This is why, in the Mass, we are able to be present at the foot of the cross for His crucifixion.

Deacon Ed
Right but we can say that He was a baby, child, teen, and adult, for that matter you can say he was a fetus, and zygote. We also know thqt the resurected Body was (approx.) a 33 year old mans body, Even when he ascended. Popular thouhgt would have us believe that He is still that way. While there may not be time, for God, there is for us. Just look at the salvation story. there is creation there is DNA, and there is the “development” of His human nature. Now, being that He is fully God and Fully human, was He that way before the incarnation, before creation?
 
. . .Now, being that He is fully God and Fully human, was He that way before the incarnation, before creation?
How could He be Incarnate before the Incarnation since to become incarnate means to take on flesh? 🙂
 
Right but we can say that He was a baby, child, teen, and adult, for that matter you can say he was a fetus, and zygote. We also know thqt the resurected Body was (approx.) a 33 year old mans body, Even when he ascended. Popular thouhgt would have us believe that He is still that way. While there may not be time, for God, there is for us. Just look at the salvation story. there is creation there is DNA, and there is the “development” of His human nature. Now, being that He is fully God and Fully human, was He that way before the incarnation, before creation?
Yes, the human nature that Jesus assumed went through those stages – but Jesus remains as he IS. As I said, God exists outside of time so we cannot say that God changed, although from our perspective there was a change. The incarnation took place in time from our frame of reference, but from God’s it is always happening.

Deacon Ed
 
Yes, the human nature that Jesus assumed went through those stages – but Jesus remains as he IS. As I said, God exists outside of time so we cannot say that God changed, although from our perspective there was a change. The incarnation took place in time from our frame of reference, but from God’s it is always happening.

Deacon Ed
Like I said befoe, I understand that God is outside of time. But we are in time. and from our perspective Jesus Came into human flesh at a specific point. Before that point He was not a pysically the same. (right?) 33 year old resurected Christ is a different physical nature than a burning bush. And While God created time, he worked within time throughout history, He even became subject to it as He was developing as a Child into a Man. Either way, from our perspective, something changed about God’s nature or manifestation when His Glorified Body Ascended.
 
Matt - since we don’t have the eyes to see the Beatific Vision for awhile, we can only know that the image that Jesus Christ wants us to think of Him as looking (I think, the most recent vision of Jesus, approved by the church) is the Divine Mercy image. mercyimages.com/
 
  1. Christ in His divine nature never changes. Period.
  2. Christ had no “physical presence” before the Incarnation.
  3. Christ retains His glorified resurrected physical Body as part of the human nature to which His Divine nature was eternally joined without change, mixture, or confusion in what we call the hypostatic union.
 
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