Jesus and the cross

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My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations," says the LORD Almighty."
Malachi 1:11

I did find that interesting however. its be awhile since i studied it but read whole chapter, it is contrasting correct torah offerings at the temple in ot] with false bad priest offerings. The word Pure offerings is a ot offerings at temple. My protestant and mesanic commentary says this reefers to millennium kingdom. But gentiles offered true sacrifices since the temple was created. I would say it is long stretch to say this refers to what Catholics do in mass.
Perhaps you should read a Catholic commentary on this. Haydock’s cites the Early Church Fathers who definitely saw this verse as referring to the Holy Eucharist:

Ver. 11. Sacrifice. Protestant, “incense.” (Haydock) — Clean oblation. The precious body and blood of Christ in the eucharistic sacrifice. (Challoner) — This is denoted by the very word mincha, the offering of flour and wine. (Calmet) See St. Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho; St. Irenæus, Against Heresies iv. 32.; St. Augustine, City of God xviii. 35.) — “We pollute this bread, that is the body of Christ, when we approach the altar unworthily.” (St. Jerome v. 7.) — This sacrifice is always pure, though the priest or receiver be otherwise. (Calmet) — Hence it is always clean. (Council of Trent, session xxii. chap. i.) (Menochius) — It is offered daily throughout the world.
 
My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations," says the LORD Almighty."
Malachi 1:11

I did find that interesting however. its be awhile since i studied it but read whole chapter, it is contrasting correct torah offerings at the temple in ot] with false bad priest offerings. The word Pure offerings is a ot offerings at temple. My protestant and mesanic commentary says this reefers to millennium kingdom. But gentiles offered true sacrifices since the temple was created. I would say it is long stretch to say this refers to what Catholics do in mass.
Sacrifices could only be offered at one place, the Temple in Jerusalem. This verse in Malachi speaks of sacrifices being offered everywhere, all over earth. I don’t see how it refers to the sacrifices of the Temple in the Old Covenant. The Jews reading that would understand it was speaking of a future where all nations and people worship God together, and not part of the sacrifices of the Temple.
thanks, sure helps.
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My name will be great among the nations, from where the sun rises to where it sets. In every place incense and pure offerings will be brought to me, because my name will be great among the nations," says the LORD Almighty."
Malachi 1:11

I did find that interesting however. its be awhile since i studied it but read whole chapter, it is contrasting correct torah offerings at the temple in ot] with false bad priest offerings. The word Pure offerings is a ot offerings at temple. My protestant and mesanic commentary says this reefers to millennium kingdom. But gentiles offered true sacrifices since the temple was created. I would say it is long stretch to say this refers to what Catholics do in mass.

thanks, sure helps.
I would just ask where has the pure offering been made in the old testament, other than the one made by Melchizedek ? A precursor to the new and everlasting covenant made by Jesus at the last supper that is the pure offering Himself.

God Bless:)
 
How important to Catholics is the Jesus Christ’s death on the Cross for the forgiveness of sin? I would say it is of the utmost importance to Catholics. Reminders of his death on the Cross for the forgiveness of our sins are everywhere in Catholicism. Crosses and crucifixes (crosses with an image of Jesus Christ) are common features in and outside Catholic buildings and homes. Just about everything Catholics do (prayers, blessings, anointings, etc.) incorporates a pattern of the Cross. When Catholics pray, they typically begin and/or end by crossing themselves, tracing a cross pattern with their hand over their body while invoking the name of the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). Catholics sometimes do this while holding their thumb and fingers themselves in the form of a cross. Upon entering a Catholic church, Catholics typically cross themselves with holy water while invoking the name of the Trinity, to remind themselves of their own baptism when they obtained forgiveness of their sins through Jesus Christ’s death on the Cross. Each Mass begins with everyone crossing themselves while invoking the name of the Trinity and, at the final blessing at the conclusion of the Mass, a bishop, priest or deacon blesses the congregation, moving his hand up and down and side to side over them in the pattern of the Cross, while invoking the name of the Trinity.

As another poster has mentioned often a large crucifix is prominently displayed in Catholic churches. I just wanted to add that even the churches buildings themselves are often purposely constructed with a floor plan in the shape of a cross.

The Stations of the Cross and the Rosary are probably two of the most popular Catholic prayer-meditations. The Stations of the Cross includes fourteen prayer-meditations on Jesus Christ’s pre-crucifixion sufferings, and his crucifixion, death and burial. Sometimes a fifteenth prayer-meditation on Jesus Christ’s resurrection is also included. The Stations of the Cross are especially popular among Catholics during the pre-Easter season of Lent. Catholic churches typically have depictions of each of the fourteen stations of the Cross placed at intervals along their interior walls so that, by pausing briefly to pray and meditate before each representation in succession, Catholics can, in a sense, walk the *Via Dolorosa *with Jesus Christ to Calvary. Each of the fourteen prayer-mediations typically begins with this prayer:
We adore you, O Christ, and we praise you, because by your holy Cross you have redeemed the world.

The Rosary includes fifteen or twenty prayer-meditations (also called mysteries) on various events in the earthly and heavenly life of Jesus Christ, including his death on the Cross for the forgiveness of sins. Rosary beads, often used to help keep track of the various prayers and meditations, typically have a small crucifix attached to it. Catholics typically cross themselves with this small crucifix while invoking the name of the Trinity at the beginning and end of the Rosary. Each prayer-mediation of the Rosary typically ends with the Fatima Prayer:
O my Jesus, forgive us your sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of your mercy.
One of the typical concluding prayers of the Rosary is:
O God, Whose only-begotten Son, by His Life, Death, and Resurrection, has purchased for us the rewards of eternal life; grant, we beseech You, that, meditating upon these Mysteries of the Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.
 
Perhaps you should read a Catholic commentary on this. Haydock’s cites the Early Church Fathers who definitely saw this verse as referring to the Holy Eucharist:

Ver. 11. Sacrifice. Protestant, “incense.” (Haydock) — Clean oblation. The precious body and blood of Christ in the eucharistic sacrifice. (Challoner) — This is denoted by the very word mincha, the offering of flour and wine. (Calmet) See St. Justin Martyr, Dialogue with Trypho; St. Irenæus, Against Heresies iv. 32.; St. Augustine, City of God xviii. 35.) — “We pollute this bread, that is the body of Christ, when we approach the altar unworthily.” (St. Jerome v. 7.) — This sacrifice is always pure, though the priest or receiver be otherwise. (Calmet) — Hence it is always clean. (Council of Trent, session xxii. chap. i.) (Menochius) — It is offered daily throughout the world.
I just wanted to add that what I cited above is not the only valid interpretation. As I believe has been mentioned, the Church interprets Scripture using 4 senses of interpretation. This passage fits at least 3 of those. It is literal, because it records an historical event, it is spiritual and allegorical. The interpretation you gave, jjsmity is all of those too, and it’s not that it is altogether wrong–some of what you’ve read concerning from your Protestant sources may apply. Rather it’s not the only valid interpretation.

A passage can have many facets of interpretation. Along with this, the Church leaves most of Scripture open to be freely interpreted. She only lists a handful of passages that must be interpreted as she has. Having said that, no private interpretation may contradict Church teachings and be valid, for the Bible is the Church’s book. Also, she has the final say in all matters of faith and morals whatever the source, so if someone puts forward an interpretation that violates Church teaching it is not be trusted or used.
 
How important to Catholics is the Jesus Christ’s death on the Cross for the forgiveness of sin? I would say it is of the utmost importance to Catholics. Reminders of his death on the Cross for the forgiveness of our sins are everywhere in Catholicism. Crosses and crucifixes (crosses with an image of Jesus Christ) are common features in and outside Catholic buildings and homes. Just about everything Catholics do (prayers, blessings, anointings, etc.) incorporates a pattern of the Cross. When Catholics pray, they typically begin and/or end by crossing themselves, tracing a cross pattern with their hand over their body while invoking the name of the Trinity (Father, Son and Holy Spirit). Catholics sometimes do this while holding their thumb and fingers themselves in the form of a cross. Upon entering a Catholic church, Catholics typically cross themselves with holy water while invoking the name of the Trinity, to remind themselves of their own baptism when they obtained forgiveness of their sins through Jesus Christ’s death on the Cross. Each Mass begins with everyone crossing themselves while invoking the name of the Trinity and, at the final blessing at the conclusion of the Mass, a bishop, priest or deacon blesses the congregation, moving his hand up and down and side to side over them in the pattern of the Cross, while invoking the name of the Trinity.

As another poster has mentioned often a large crucifix is prominently displayed in Catholic churches. I just wanted to add that even the churches buildings themselves are often purposely constructed with a floor plan in the shape of a cross.

The Stations of the Cross and the Rosary are probably two of the most popular Catholic prayer-meditations. The Stations of the Cross includes fourteen prayer-meditations on Jesus Christ’s pre-crucifixion sufferings, and his crucifixion, death and burial. Sometimes a fifteenth prayer-meditation on Jesus Christ’s resurrection is also included. The Stations of the Cross are especially popular among Catholics during the pre-Easter season of Lent. Catholic churches typically have depictions of each of the fourteen stations of the Cross placed at intervals along their interior walls so that, by pausing briefly to pray and meditate before each representation in succession, Catholics can, in a sense, walk the *Via Dolorosa *with Jesus Christ to Calvary. Each of the fourteen prayer-mediations typically begins with this prayer:
We adore you, O Christ, and we praise you, because by your holy Cross you have redeemed the world.

The Rosary includes fifteen or twenty prayer-meditations (also called mysteries) on various events in the earthly and heavenly life of Jesus Christ, including his death on the Cross for the forgiveness of sins. Rosary beads, often used to help keep track of the various prayers and meditations, typically have a small crucifix attached to it. Catholics typically cross themselves with this small crucifix while invoking the name of the Trinity at the beginning and end of the Rosary. Each prayer-mediation of the Rosary typically ends with the Fatima Prayer:
O my Jesus, forgive us your sins, save us from the fires of hell, lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of your mercy.
One of the typical concluding prayers of the Rosary is:
O God, Whose only-begotten Son, by His Life, Death, and Resurrection, has purchased for us the rewards of eternal life; grant, we beseech You, that, meditating upon these Mysteries of the Most Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.
Very moving and informative…👍 Thanks!
 
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