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Are their contradictions in the Gospels of when Jesus was crucified, when he was buried, what time of day he was buried, how long was he in the grave, when he was resurrected?
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davidv
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No.Are their contradictions in the Gospels of when Jesus was crucified, when he was buried, what time of day he was buried, how long was he in the grave, when he was resurrected?
Do you think there are some?
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Abyssinia
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I do not believe there are, but someone I know made this claim and I do not know where he got it from. He said he got it from the Gospels.No.
Do you think there are some?
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davidv
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Maybe you would not be so confused if you read Catholic sources first.
Check out the Catechism of the Catholic Church on how to read Scripture here.
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Della
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Matthew was not referring to 24 hours worth of time but merely to ticking off the numbers of days not the number of hours. Thus, burial on Friday through to Sunday, three days. He was employing an idiom, not trying to tell his readers precisely how many hours had gone by.
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Abyssinia
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And what day was Jesus crucified, was it Wednesday, Thursday or Friday?Matthew was not referring to 24 hours worth of time but merely to ticking off the numbers of days not the number of hours. Thus, burial on Friday through to Sunday, three days. He was employing an idiom, not trying to tell his readers precisely how many hours had gone by.
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Abyssinia
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How long was Jesus in the tomb?
Wen did he rise from the tomb? Seems to be conflicting debate on this.
Wen did he rise from the tomb? Seems to be conflicting debate on this.
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Ne_OrangeKnight
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Short version: Jesus was put into the tomb on Friday (Day 1). He remained there all of Saturday (Day 2). He was still there on Sunday (Day 3) until he rose from the dead and walked out. 3 days in the tomb.
Sam, the Neon Orange Knight
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Abyssinia
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Thanks for replying. Can you give me the specific Bible verses which say this? In Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?Short version: Jesus was put into the tomb on Friday (Day 1). He remained there all of Saturday (Day 2). He was still there on Sunday (Day 3) until he rose from the dead and walked out. 3 days in the tomb.
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Windfish
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You have to be very careful when approaching ancient books like the Bible. The Catechism of the Catholic Church gives us guidelines for reading it, and one of the guidelines is to take into consideration and context the intent, genre, style, and cultural milieu of the inspired authors. The Bible is not like the Qu’ran, which Muslims claim is the direct, word-for-word, written revelation from Allah. The human authors, under inspiration from the Holy Spirit, were not isolated from the world in which they lived.
Now, when we look at the Gospels, we see that they are works of ancient historiography. Ancient history was written very differently in those days. Today, it is standard to write history chronologically, but then, history was arranged according to very different criteria like theme and importance. This may explain some of the apparent discrepancies that we say. HOWEVER, this explanation may not even be needed, as many of these discrepancies are usually misunderstandings on the part of the reader and are easily harmonized.
Now, when we look at the Gospels, we see that they are works of ancient historiography. Ancient history was written very differently in those days. Today, it is standard to write history chronologically, but then, history was arranged according to very different criteria like theme and importance. This may explain some of the apparent discrepancies that we say. HOWEVER, this explanation may not even be needed, as many of these discrepancies are usually misunderstandings on the part of the reader and are easily harmonized.
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A detailed resource that explains
Day of Crucifixion and Resurrection of our Lord
Proved to be Friday and Sunday (the Lord’s Day)
Day of Crucifixion and Resurrection of our Lord
Proved to be Friday and Sunday (the Lord’s Day)
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StrawberryJam
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Would the contradictions matter really? I mean, are you fine with the Hebrew bible? If so, why let something like this be a problem?Are their contradictions in the Gospels of when Jesus was crucified, when he was buried, what time of day he was buried, how long was he in the grave, when he was resurrected?
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Vince1022
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Yes.Are their contradictions in the Gospels of when Jesus was crucified, when he was buried, what time of day he was buried, how long was he in the grave, when he was resurrected?
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Abyssinia
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I need more help on how long Jesus was in the Grave.
“For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” (Matthew xii, 40).
But what do Mark, John, and Luke say about how long Jesus was in the grave?
I need specific verses in each Gospel.
Specifically in John does he say anything about Jesus rising on the third day?
I have found these:
Jesus said of himself -
Matthew 12:38-40 KJV
38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus referred to -
Jonah 1:17 KJV
17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
The Scribes and Pharisees claim that Jesus taught -
Matthew 27:63-66 KJV
63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
65 Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can.
66 So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.
Jesus repeatedly said -
Mark 9:31 KJV
31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
Mark 10:32-34 KJV
32 And they were in the way going up to Jerusalem; and Jesus went before them: and they were amazed; and as they followed, they were afraid. And he took again the twelve, and began to tell them what things should happen unto him,
33 Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Luke also records similar statement by Jesus -
Luke 9:22, Luke 13:32, Luke 18:33, Luke 24:7 and 46
Then the Apostle taught –
Acts 10:39-42 KJV
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
“For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” (Matthew xii, 40).
But what do Mark, John, and Luke say about how long Jesus was in the grave?
I need specific verses in each Gospel.
Specifically in John does he say anything about Jesus rising on the third day?
I have found these:
Jesus said of himself -
Matthew 12:38-40 KJV
38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus referred to -
Jonah 1:17 KJV
17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
The Scribes and Pharisees claim that Jesus taught -
Matthew 27:63-66 KJV
63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
65 Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can.
66 So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.
Jesus repeatedly said -
Mark 9:31 KJV
31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
Mark 10:32-34 KJV
32 And they were in the way going up to Jerusalem; and Jesus went before them: and they were amazed; and as they followed, they were afraid. And he took again the twelve, and began to tell them what things should happen unto him,
33 Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Luke also records similar statement by Jesus -
Luke 9:22, Luke 13:32, Luke 18:33, Luke 24:7 and 46
Then the Apostle taught –
Acts 10:39-42 KJV
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
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chosen_people
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This is one of 25 discrepancies that appear in the gospel accounts of the resurrection:I need more help on how long Jesus was in the Grave.
“For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth” (Matthew xii, 40).
But what do Mark, John, and Luke say about how long Jesus was in the grave?
I need specific verses in each Gospel.
Specifically in John does he say anything about Jesus rising on the third day?
I have found these:
Jesus said of himself -
Matthew 12:38-40 KJV
38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jesus referred to -
Jonah 1:17 KJV
17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
The Scribes and Pharisees claim that Jesus taught -
Matthew 27:63-66 KJV
63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.
64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day, lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first.
65 Pilate said unto them, Ye have a watch: go your way, make it as sure as ye can.
66 So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch.
Jesus repeatedly said -
Mark 9:31 KJV
31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
Mark 10:32-34 KJV
32 And they were in the way going up to Jerusalem; and Jesus went before them: and they were amazed; and as they followed, they were afraid. And he took again the twelve, and began to tell them what things should happen unto him,
33 Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests, and unto the scribes; and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Luke also records similar statement by Jesus -
Luke 9:22, Luke 13:32, Luke 18:33, Luke 24:7 and 46
Then the Apostle taught –
Acts 10:39-42 KJV
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
According to Matthew 12:40, Jesus prophesied that he would be three days and three nights in the tomb.
According to John 20:1 Jesus was two days and two nights in the tomb.
According to Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, Matthew 28:1, Jesus was three days and two nights in the tomb.
To the best of my knowledge there is no place in the Christian scriptures where Jesus was three days and three nights in the tomb.
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Abyssinia
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What are these twenty five discrepancies?This is one of 25 discrepancies that appear in the gospel accounts of the resurrection:
According to Matthew 12:40, Jesus prophesied that he would be three days and three nights in the tomb.
According to John 20:1 Jesus was two days and two nights in the tomb.
According to Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, Matthew 28:1, Jesus was three days and two nights in the tomb.
To the best of my knowledge there is no place in the Christian scriptures where Jesus was three days and three nights in the tomb.
Is it not trie that there are four historical facts attested to by historians?
- Jesus’ burial
- the discovery of his empty tomb
- his post-mortem appearances
- the origin of the disciples’ belief in his resurrection.
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Jean_Anthony
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There are no “discrepancies” between the Gospel accounts. What they show us are different people looking at the same events and telling it from their own perspective. The essentials remain the same, only the details vary and only because each person wrote to a different set of readers from a different perspective for different reasons. Not all the Gospel writers included everything that others did, for instance. That doesn’t mean the essential story isn’t true or valid.
The Gospels are a witness to the life of Jesus not the sum total of his life. There are many things not told us, but the Gospels were never intended to be a comprehensive history, but rather what each Gospel writer thought important to record and relate for those to whom he was writing. Matthew wrote primarily to his fellow Jews, so his approach is quite different from Luke who wrote for a Gentile official, and so on.
The NT accounts are consistent enough for their purpose–telling us who Jesus was and what he came to do. If they matched up in every aspect detractors would say the Gospel writers had colluded together to concoct the whole thing. The very fact that each author tells us about Jesus’ life, death and resurrection from a different point of view ensures that these people were writing about real things as they saw them, not conspiring to “pull a fast one” on mankind.
The Gospels are a witness to the life of Jesus not the sum total of his life. There are many things not told us, but the Gospels were never intended to be a comprehensive history, but rather what each Gospel writer thought important to record and relate for those to whom he was writing. Matthew wrote primarily to his fellow Jews, so his approach is quite different from Luke who wrote for a Gentile official, and so on.
The NT accounts are consistent enough for their purpose–telling us who Jesus was and what he came to do. If they matched up in every aspect detractors would say the Gospel writers had colluded together to concoct the whole thing. The very fact that each author tells us about Jesus’ life, death and resurrection from a different point of view ensures that these people were writing about real things as they saw them, not conspiring to “pull a fast one” on mankind.
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Della
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There are no “discrepancies” between the Gospel accounts. What they show us are different people looking at the same events and telling it from their own perspective. The essentials remain the same, only the details vary and only because each person wrote to a different set of readers from a different perspective for different reasons. Not all the Gospel writers included everything that others did, for instance. That doesn’t mean the essential story isn’t true or valid.
The Gospels are a witness to the life of Jesus not the sum total of his life. There are many things not told us, but the Gospels were never intended to be a comprehensive history, but rather what each Gospel writer thought important to record and relate for those to whom he was writing. Matthew wrote primarily to his fellow Jews, so his approach is quite different from Luke who wrote for a Gentile official, and so on.
The NT accounts are consistent enough for their purpose–telling us who Jesus was and what he came to do. If they matched up in every aspect detractors would say the Gospel writers had colluded together to concoct the whole thing. The very fact that each author tells us about Jesus’ life, death and resurrection from a different point of view ensures that these people were writing about real things as they saw them, not conspiring to “pull a fast one” on mankind.
As to when Jesus died and rose–he died on Friday and rose on Sunday. How do we know this? From the texts and from the longstanding teaching of the Church that gave us the texts of the NT. The Bible cannot be divorced from the Sacred Tradition in which is was written, complied, saved, copied, and delivered to the faithful. To do so is to have everlasting arguments about what this passage/verse/book means. The very question raised here about when Jesus died and rose is an example of that. We Catholics are not Sola Scripturists. We are the living Magisterium that Christ established from which we got the NT. To pick over verses to “prove” things is to entirely miss the point, a common pitfall into which our Protestant and Jewish brethren often fall and in which those who do are stuck without a way to see outside of it.
The Gospels are a witness to the life of Jesus not the sum total of his life. There are many things not told us, but the Gospels were never intended to be a comprehensive history, but rather what each Gospel writer thought important to record and relate for those to whom he was writing. Matthew wrote primarily to his fellow Jews, so his approach is quite different from Luke who wrote for a Gentile official, and so on.
The NT accounts are consistent enough for their purpose–telling us who Jesus was and what he came to do. If they matched up in every aspect detractors would say the Gospel writers had colluded together to concoct the whole thing. The very fact that each author tells us about Jesus’ life, death and resurrection from a different point of view ensures that these people were writing about real things as they saw them, not conspiring to “pull a fast one” on mankind.
As to when Jesus died and rose–he died on Friday and rose on Sunday. How do we know this? From the texts and from the longstanding teaching of the Church that gave us the texts of the NT. The Bible cannot be divorced from the Sacred Tradition in which is was written, complied, saved, copied, and delivered to the faithful. To do so is to have everlasting arguments about what this passage/verse/book means. The very question raised here about when Jesus died and rose is an example of that. We Catholics are not Sola Scripturists. We are the living Magisterium that Christ established from which we got the NT. To pick over verses to “prove” things is to entirely miss the point, a common pitfall into which our Protestant and Jewish brethren often fall and in which those who do are stuck without a way to see outside of it.
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chosen_people
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Which of the Gospel writers do you believe to be eyewitnesses to the above events?There are no “discrepancies” between the Gospel accounts. What they show us are different people looking at the same events and telling it from their own perspective. The essentials remain the same, only the details vary and only because each person wrote to a different set of readers from a different perspective for different reasons. Not all the Gospel writers included everything that others did, for instance. That doesn’t mean the essential story isn’t true or valid.
The Gospels are a witness to the life of Jesus not the sum total of his life. There are many things not told us, but the Gospels were never intended to be a comprehensive history, but rather what each Gospel writer thought important to record and relate for those to whom he was writing. Matthew wrote primarily to his fellow Jews, so his approach is quite different from Luke who wrote for a Gentile official, and so on.
The NT accounts are consistent enough for their purpose–telling us who Jesus was and what he came to do. If they matched up in every aspect detractors would say the Gospel writers had colluded together to concoct the whole thing. The very fact that each author tells us about Jesus’ life, death and resurrection from a different point of view ensures that these people were writing about real things as they saw them, not conspiring to “pull a fast one” on mankind.
As to when Jesus died and rose–he died on Friday and rose on Sunday. How do we know this? From the texts and from the longstanding teaching of the Church that gave us the texts of the NT. The Bible cannot be divorced from the Sacred Tradition in which is was written, complied, saved, copied, and delivered to the faithful. To do so is to have everlasting arguments about what this passage/verse/book means. The very question raised here about when Jesus died and rose is an example of that. We Catholics are not Sola Scripturists. We are the living Magisterium that Christ established from which we got the NT. To pick over verses to “prove” things is to entirely miss the point, a common pitfall into which our Protestant and Jewish brethren often fall and in which those who do are stuck without a way to see outside of it.
Many of the differences concern time, dates and places. How can this be explained away as a matter of perspective?
If the testimony of the authors is “the inspired word of God” according to 2 Timothy 3:16, would God transmit a garbled version of the story that is the foundation of the Christian faith?
On which day was Jesus crucified?
At what time was Jesus crucified?
Who bore the cross on the way to Golgotha prior to the crucifixion?
The Gospels report that Jesus was crucified with two brigands. Did either of the two brigands believe in Jesus?
What were Jesus’ last words on the cross?
How many days and nights was Jesus in the tomb?
Did Roman soldiers guard Jesus’ tomb?
Was the stone removed when the women first arrived at the tomb?
How many people first approached the empty tomb?
On first reaching the tomb by whom and where were the women greeted?
How many angels appeared at the tomb?
Did the angel(s) tell Mary(s) that Jesus was “risen”?
Did the angels(s) tell Mary(s) that Jesus would appear in the Galilee?
Where and to whom did the “risen” Jesus first reveal himself?
Did Mary Magdalene receive word of the “resurrection” of Jesus from an angel before her actual encounter with Jesus?
Did Jesus tell Mary(s) that he would appear in the Galilee?
What was Mary Magdalene’s state of mind when the “resurrected” Jesus first appeared to her?
When Mary and the “other” women were first informed that Jesus had “risen”, how did they react?
How did Mary Magdalene initially report the news to the disciples?
After seeing the angles, whom did Mary meet first, Jesus or the disciples?
How many disciples were present when the risen Jesus appeared to them?
How many times did Jesus appear after the resurrection?
Where did Jesus’ post resurrection appearances take place?
Was Mary permitted to touch Jesus after the resurrection?
When did the apostles receive the holy spirit?
In Matthew 27:51,28:2 not only Jesus but many dead bodies of Jewish “saints” were also resurrected and walked around the city and appeared to many. How is such a momentous event not reported by any of the other Gospels or any of the surviving histories of the time? Why are names of the many witnesses not identified and why do the Gospels not give a hint as to what became of those “dead saints”?
(this deals only with the resurrection account - it can be repeated with the birth and infancy accounts of Jesus, or the names of the twelve disciples, or the stories of the betrayal of Jesus by Judas, or the Gospel account of the Jewish trial of Jesus, or the genealogies of Jesus etc.)
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