Jesus ate lamb so that we could eat hamburgers, or not?

[4elise]

Doesn’t change my point.

sorry… your point was?

 

[4elise]

Doesn’t change my point.

But it is not Jesus who drove the pigs into the sea, but rather the demons who had pleaded with him, to ‘send us into the herd of swine.’ And he said to them, “Go then!” They came out and entered the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea where they drowned.

 

[aspawloski4th]

But it is not Jesus who drove the pigs into the sea, but rather the demons who had pleaded with him, to ‘send us into the herd of swine.’ And he said to them, “Go then!” They came out and entered the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea where they drowned.

But with Jesus’s ok.

 

[royal_archer]

But it is not Jesus who drove the pigs into the sea, but rather the demons who had pleaded with him, to ‘send us into the herd of swine.’ And he said to them, “Go then!” They came out and entered the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea where they drowned.

What wer the pigs doing there in the first place? for some reason I didn’t think Jews ate pork. Were they Gentile pigs? If the locals were against pork then would getting rid of the demons and pigs been a double bennefit?

 

[royal_archer]

Thinking about the whole annimal rights/ vegan / carnivore / hunter spectrum and where society draws the line I came to the understanding that for me the line is sadistic intent or sadistic negligence. My current belief is that we can hunt, kill, eat, wear, and use as labor any creature that does not have a soul or anything that is not human. The line is when we have sadistic intent or want to cause pain and suffering for the animal, or are not making an intent to avoid unnecesary suffering. I am not talking about a pig that is “suffering” because his pen is preventing him from wandering, I am talking about cruelty.

 

[aspawloski4th]

What wer the pigs doing there in the first place? for some reason I didn’t think Jews ate pork. Were they Gentile pigs? If the locals were against pork then would getting rid of the demons and pigs been a double bennefit?

As far as pigs being in the area. Remember at that time the Romans were occupying that territory.

 

[Indyann]

Thinking about the whole annimal rights/ vegan / carnivore / hunter spectrum and where society draws the line I came to the understanding that for me the line is sadistic intent or sadistic negligence. My current belief is that we can hunt, kill, eat, wear, and use as labor any creature that does not have a soul or anything that is not human. The line is when we have sadistic intent or want to cause pain and suffering for the animal, or are not making an intent to avoid unnecesary suffering. I am not talking about a pig that is “suffering” because his pen is preventing him from wandering, I am talking about cruelty.

I agree, and when you stop to think about it, how ethical are zoos? Take an animal from its natural habitat, build a pen with some artificial rocks and an artificial pond and a “house” to sleep in at night. That could be considered VERY cruel.

Everyone must keep proper prospective. Then we can all get along.

 

[4elise]

What wer the pigs doing there in the first place? for some reason I didn’t think Jews ate pork. Were they Gentile pigs? If the locals were against pork then would getting rid of the demons and pigs been a double bennefit?

The footnotes on this section said that this was to indicate that this was a Gentile area.

 

[4elise]

I agree, and when you stop to think about it, how ethical are zoos? Take an animal from its natural habitat, build a pen with some artificial rocks and an artificial pond and a “house” to sleep in at night. That could be considered VERY cruel.

Everyone must keep proper prospective. Then we can all get along.

I guess this wouldn’t be the place (to show just how nuts you all think I am) to say I do have issue with zoos and aquariums too

I think intent is certainly important - and where I draw the line is also reference to need.
Since I don’t need animals or their products to live today because other options are so readily available - I believe this is the best way for me to make daily choices (not always easy) that reflect my understanding of a way to live my faith.

Blessings!

 

[aspawloski4th]

By the way Jesus ate the lamb because it was Jewish tradition, and he doesn’t really care if we eat hamburgers.

 

[royal_archer]

I guess this wouldn’t be the place (to show just how nuts you all think I am) to say I do have issue with zoos and aquariums too

I think intent is certainly important - and where I draw the line is also reference to need.
Since I don’t need animals or their products to live today because other options are so readily available - I believe this is the best way for me to make daily choices (not always easy) that reflect my understanding of a way to live my faith.

Blessings!

I agree tha tneed , or bennefit should be proportional.

I draw the line at cow tipping, anyrhing worse than that propably needs close scrutiny.