Jesus being God

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I am a Catholic, and recently someone said that Jesus is either not God, or that the Nestorian heresy is true. They said “if Jesus is God than how could he die, since God can’t change??? If he is God then his body isn’t God, but only his soul.”
 
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Who cares what “someone” said? Why not pay attention to what the Church has said authoritatively on this?

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Our Lord was resurrected on the third day and ascended to heaven.

This is not death.
 
He had to die to rise again, though. If you say he didn’t die, then this at least borders on Docetism.
 
That’s denying that Jesus died, which is a heresy. In revelations 2:1 Jesus says, “I am who am, the one who died and lived again.” Jesus is claiming to be God but then he says his body died, and that his body is God. Yet how can this be, if god can’t change, so if god can’t change then how can Jesus’s body change is what they are asking.
 
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Our Lord was resurrected on the third day and ascended to heaven.

This is not death.
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I didn’t say He didn’t die, He was resurrected, restored to life in other words, and ascended to heaven.
 
Jesus was God incarnate. Everything and everyone that is incarnate can and does die. God Incarnate and God the Father are not one and the same. They are con-substantial, not identical. This is clearly stated in the Nicene Creed.
 
That is a heresy fauken, that is to deny the word became flesh, and to assume the Nestorian heresy. To say his body is not God is to say that all Eucharistic adoration is idolatry and that Mary isn’t the mother of God but just his body. It is also to say his body that we receive in the Eucharist is not truly god, which denies the Eucharist and is itself a grave sin.
 
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That is a heresy fauken, that is to deny the word became flesh, and to assume the Nestorian heresy. To say his body is not God is to say that all Eucharistic adoration is idolatry and that Mary isn’t the mother of God but just his body. It is also to say his body that we receive in the Eucharist is not truly god, which denies the Eucharist and is itself a grave sin.
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No it’s not. Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, but it’s not His body that is divine, but his soul. Mary can be the Mother of God as His human soul is from her and His divinity from Himself. This is what the hypostatic union refers to, not that His body is both human and divine.
 
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That is a heresy fauken, that is to deny the word became flesh, and to assume the Nestorian heresy. To say his body is not God is to say that all Eucharistic adoration is idolatry and that Mary isn’t the mother of God but just his body. It is also to say his body that we receive in the Eucharist is not truly god, which denies the Eucharist and is itself a grave sin.
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His body was not divine. Neither was his soul. However, we can worship and adore Jesus as a whole, that is, body, blood, soul and divinity because they are united under the hypostatic union. Jesus is one person, not two persons. And as one person, his entire person can be adored.
 
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That is a heresy fauken, that is to deny the word became flesh, and to assume the Nestorian heresy. To say his body is not God is to say that all Eucharistic adoration is idolatry and that Mary isn’t the mother of God but just his body. It is also to say his body that we receive in the Eucharist is not truly god, which denies the Eucharist and is itself a grave sin.
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No it’s not. Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, but it’s not His body that is divine, but his soul. Mary can be the Mother of God as His human soul is from her and His divinity from Himself. This is what the hypostatic union refers to, not that His body is both human and divine.
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If I may offer a correction, his soul was not divine either. He had both a human body and a human soul, in addition to his divinity.
 
The Nestorian heresy is treating each nature as a person in itself, which is not the case. Jesus is one person who has two natures. We adore Jesus as a person, not his human nature alone.

Keep in mind that in the Eucharist it’s not just his body and just his blood that are present, but Jesus as a whole, for where his body is made present his blood, soul, and divinity are also made present. And where his blood is made present his body, soul, and divinity are also made present. Therefore, when we adore the Eucharist in adoration, we are not adoring the human nature out of context or without regard for his divinity.
 
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To say his body is not God is to say that all Eucharistic adoration is idolatry
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No. Apparently you believe that “Body of Christ” (i.e. the Eucharist) refers to Jesus’ physical, historical body. It does not.

In case you’re tempted to invoke the Real Presence as a defense of what you’ve said, let me pre-empt that by telling you now (as I’ve told others many times on this website) that we believe in the Real Presence, not the physical presence. The difference is rather important.
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If I may offer a correction, his soul was not divine either. He had both a human body and a human soul, in addition to his divinity.
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@Wesrock If I may offer a correction to your correction, Christ’s divinity does in fact consist in the perfection of His soul.
 
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How about a more interesting question: did Jesus pre-exist his incarnation, as the Son or Logos (Word)?
 
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@Wesrock If I may offer a correction to your correction, Christ’s divinity does in fact consist in the perfection of His soul.
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What do you mean by “consist in?” Christ had a human soul, and one certainly without the defects of sin and with supreme virtue, but still a human soul.
 
Jesus was fully God and fully human. The Second Person of the Trinity took on a human nature, including a completely human body and soul. So, indeed, while God cannot change or die, via the Incarnation God the Son was able to experience human life and death.
 
No, the Nestorian heresy would be precisely to insist that Jesus’ humanity is entirely separate from His divinity. Even though Jesus’ body and soul are human, they belong to the Second Person of the Trinity. To adore the Eucharist is to adore the whole Person of Jesus, body, blood, soul, and divinity, just as to carry and give birth to Jesus’ human body was to carry and give birth to the whole Person, making Mary rightly Theotokos.
 
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