Jesus Black?

[puzzleannie]

Now I am told Adam and Eve were black?

“I am told” is not a source. told by whom, who is speaking on what authority? the bible is silent on that and in fact the unfolding story of Genesis seems to imply the separation of peoples into cultures, ethnicities and the artificial designations we call “races” occured much later in human history. Is the point relevant to our salvation? no? then why wast time discussing it.

 

[Abeyta85]

“I am told” is not a source. told by whom, who is speaking on what authority? the bible is silent on that and in fact the unfolding story of Genesis seems to imply the separation of peoples into cultures, ethnicities and the artificial designations we call “races” occured much later in human history. Is the point relevant to our salvation? no? then why wast time discussing it.

That almost exactly what i said. Also kept coming to the same conclusion. Well, needless to say, I shared my thoughts and facts, and she was unable to show me or prove anything with any real facts. It wasn’t a heated talk, but interesting.

Looks like she blocked me. Conversation over.

I really appreciate everyone’s replies and comments, thank you all so much!!

 

[Ghosty]

Now I am told Adam and Eve were black?

Adam and Eve might have been black. They might also have looked different from any “race” we see today, since all people come from them.

Jesus, though, was almost certainly not “black” the way we in America use the term today.

What’s more, if your friend is a follower of Louis Farrakan you’ll likely be hearing all kinds of nutty race theories from her. The Nation of Islam is not a part of traditional Islam (it’s considered heretical, in fact), and is founded on some bizarre theories about history (all non-black races were created by genetic engineering by a man named Yakub from Mecca, for example). You won’t likely get far in discussions with her.

Peace and God bless!

 

[MarianD]

She is a Muslim, have nothing against (of course) and who is very influenced by Louis Farrakhan.

Don’t know that much on Louis Farrakhan.

That’s kind of bad. Farrakhan is a bad man, and has a horrible past. He is the man who masterminded the plan to kill Malcolm X, and he is the current leader of the Nation of Islam.

The Nation of Islam preaches things contrary to Islamic beliefs, so they cannot be called Muslims (or at least, not “Orthodox” Muslims). Kind of like Jehovah’s Witnesses are to Christians.

The NOI itself is an organization that I personally don’t like due to its preaching of racism and antisemitism, but that’s just me.

 

[vwtaylorii]

Now I am told Adam and Eve were black?

People can make a claim that Adam and Eve was black. If you want to involve science into it, the human race most likely started in Africa.

 

[patrick457]

What does it matter what race he was while on Earth? The fact still remains that He is God, He died for our sins and was raised up on the 3rd day so that we may crucify our flesh so He may give life to our souls through His Ultimate Sacrifice.

However, I personally believe Jesus looked like the Palestinians of today. As did Mary. I think the Black Madonna of Czestochowa is an actual portrait, only the paint got darker over time. As such, our Mother looked like that (and consequently Christ Himself did as well since He only had one person to get His genes from) only lighter.

I believe Mary looked like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Ченстоховская_икона_Божией_Матери.jpg

Picture Christ like that, only male.

Here’s the original icon, BTW (without the riza that often covers it):



Though you’ve gotta remember that the icon as it is nowadays is not the original one. The difficulty in dating the icon stems from the fact that the original image was painted over after being badly damaged by Hussite raiders in 1430. Medieval restorers unfamiliar with the encaustic method found that the paints they applied to the damaged areas “simply sloughed off the image” according to the medieval chronicler Risinius, and their solution was to erase the original image and to repaint it on the original panel, which was believed to be holy because of its legendary origin as a table top from the home of the Holy Family.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Not only do we not know what Jesus’ coloration was, we don’t even know what Jews living in Palestine at the time looked like.

Initially, the Jews came from Sumeria (if one believes the Abraham story), a place inhabited by both semitic and indo-european peoples. They weren’t big on intermarriage with other peoples, which is why Abraham and Isaac went back to Ur to get their wives.

During their period in Egypt, they might have intermarried with Egyptians. Nobody among the Egyptians seems to have remarked on Moses’ appearance as being somehow different, notwithstanding that he was raised as a child of Pharoah’s daughter. Some archaeologists have felt that carvings of Hebrew captives in Egypt resembled Hittites, an Indo-European people.

In Canaan there were people of semitic and indo-european origin when the Hebrews got there. Doubtless, some resembled Egyptians of the time, some resembled Arabs of today and some resembled Europeans, just as is the case in Palestine today.

Are today’s Jews really a distinct genetic group, having a universally recognizable appearance? Absolutely not. Were they ever? We don’t know, but there’s reason to doubt it.

In America, we think we know “what Jews look like”. But do we? The earliest Jews in America were largely Sephardim, who were pretty European in appearance. Later immigrants were Ashkenazim, who, some believe, are actually descended from the Turkic Khazars rather than from any semitic group. Israelis, of course, range from black to brown to blonde and blue-eyed.

 

[GaryTaylor]

The Madonna painted by Luke now gives the appearence and is called the Black Madonna. The artifact has been restored, stolen, damaged, subjected to smoke for hundreds of years. And then arrives as it is.

Whats even more facinating about that Madonna is the Scars on her face are from Spears during a battle. They were repaired in the restoration and keep Supernaturally appearing.

Thats an old Madonna painted on wood, the table Christ built and his mother sat for years after his death at. With John, Luke and the Holy Family.

 

[zab]

Well, today He is “light chocolate” and has hazel eyes. And He gets darker or lighter depending on the lighting. This is the fifth time that I have painted Him and every time I used a different skin tone. This time I wanted to use a color that I thought was perhaps the closest to what color His skin may have been knowing that He was born of a Jewish young woman, Mary.

 

[NHInsider]

Well, today He is “light chocolate” and has hazel eyes. And He gets darker or lighter depending on the lighting. This is the fifth time that I have painted Him and every time I used a different skin tone. This time I wanted to use a color that I thought was perhaps the closest to what color His skin may have been knowing that He was born of a Jewish young woman, Mary.

Those are really lovely!