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No, not in the least. 🙂 You misunderstood the import of my words.

All too often, even here in these forums…and I think you may be one of those who do it…not 100% sure, so if I am in error, forgive me, but some people constantly and to the point of utter distraction quote “Paul” ad nauseum. Its almost as if they think Paul was the Savior.

Seldom do I see anyone quote Christ’s words…:eek: Frankly, I put far more faith in what Christ said than the words of an Apostle…not that I ignore them by any means… But first and foremost Christ’s Word comes first…all else is “trimming”.🙂

Nothing said to denigrate the Apostolic Succession…
Rob has written several times that he seems to feel that we should put more emphasis on the recorded words of Jesus as compared to the Apostles. We currently have a Bible Study of going through the letters of Paul together as Christians.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=273731&page=29

Let’s do a Bible Study on the gospel of John. Like the other Bible Study, I’ll post the first chapter on the gospel of John and everyone can comment on it.
 
Please provide comments on this particular chapter. Feel free to use additional scripture to support your comments.

John 1

The Word Became Flesh
1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, [1] and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.

9 The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, [2] and his own people [3] did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) 16 And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, [4] who is at the Father’s side, [5] he has made him known.

The Testimony of John the Baptist
19 And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20 He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21 And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22 So they said to him, “Who are you? We need to give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” 23 He said, “I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, ‘Make straight [6] the way of the Lord,’ as the prophet Isaiah said.”

24 (Now they had been sent from the Pharisees.) 25 They asked him, “Then why are you baptizing, if you are neither the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26 John answered them, “I baptize with water, but among you stands one you do not know, 27 even he who comes after me, the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28 These things took place in Bethany across the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

Behold, the Lamb of God
29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is he of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel.” 32 And John bore witness: “I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”

Jesus Calls the First Disciples
35 The next day again John was standing with two of his disciples, 36 and he looked at Jesus as he walked by and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God!” 37 The two disciples heard him say this, and they followed Jesus. 38 Jesus turned and saw them following and said to them, “What are you seeking?” And they said to him, “Rabbi” (which means Teacher), “where are you staying?” 39 He said to them, “Come and you will see.” So they came and saw where he was staying, and they stayed with him that day, for it was about the tenth hour. [7] 40 One of the two who heard John speak and followed Jesus [8] was Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother. 41 He first found his own brother Simon and said to him, “We have found the Messiah” (which means Christ). 42 He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, “So you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas” (which means Peter [9]).

Jesus Calls Philip and Nathanael
43 The next day Jesus decided to go to Galilee. He found Philip and said to him, “Follow me.” 44 Now Philip was from Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter. 45 Philip found Nathanael and said to him, “We have found him of whom Moses in the Law and also the prophets wrote, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.” 46 Nathanael said to him, “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Philip said to him, “Come and see.” 47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming toward him and said of him, “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no deceit!” 48 Nathanael said to him, “How do you know me?” Jesus answered him, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.” 49 Nathanael answered him, “Rabbi, you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel!” 50 Jesus answered him, “Because I said to you, ‘I saw you under the fig tree,’ do you believe? You will see greater things than these.” 51 And he said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, [10] you will see heaven opened, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.”
 
Hi RobHom… here’s your chance to mediate on the words of Jesus together as Christians. 🙂
Originally Posted by RobHom
All too often, even here in these forums…and I think you may be one of those who do it…not 100% sure, so if I am in error, forgive me, but some people constantly and to the point of utter distraction quote “Paul” ad nauseum. Its almost as if they think Paul was the Savior.
Seldom do I see anyone quote Christ’s words… Frankly, I put far more faith in what Christ said than the words of an Apostle…
 
John 1

The Word Became Flesh
1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life, [1] and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Jesus Christ is the Word of God. The Word of God is God. Meaning, Jesus Christ is God.

I hope we can all at least agree on that.

Now, it’s Sunday. Please be charitable everyone!
Also, because of that, I have to go. Peace to all!
 
Sunday is a great day to meditate on Christ and Him crucified through the Scriptures…especially through the gospel of John. Let’s continue meditating on Christ together later this evening.
9 The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, [2] and his own people [3] did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
 
Sunday is a great day to meditate on Christ and Him crucified through the Scriptures…especially through the gospel of John. Let’s continue meditating on Christ together later this evening.
Agreed! Though I cannot guarantee participation this evening.

I gotta go. . .

His Peace!
 
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Literally translated: “and the Word became flesh and “tabernacled” amongst us.”

This is the season of Sukkot or “Feast of Tabernacles.” This is the festival during which God came to dwell among us. During this time of year. It is the most joyous of all festivals.

In fact, the story of Mary and Joseph that is told at Christmas is hardly close to the facts. If we really want to celebrate Jesus’ birth when it really happened, we should celebrate Sukkot instead of pagan Saturnalia.

A study of the Feast of Tabernacles will reveal more about the Messiah than you would ever realize. His prophetic word will come true when He comes again to Tabernacle amongst His people and for a thousand years in the Millennium.
 
Literally translated: “and the Word became flesh and “tabernacled” amongst us.”

This is the season of Sukkot or “Feast of Tabernacles.” This is the festival during which God came to dwell among us. During this time of year. It is the most joyous of all festivals.

In fact, the story of Mary and Joseph that is told at Christmas is hardly close to the facts. If we really want to celebrate Jesus’ birth when it really happened, we should celebrate Sukkot instead of pagan Saturnalia.

A study of the Feast of Tabernacles will reveal more about the Messiah than you would ever realize. His prophetic word will come true when He comes again to Tabernacle amongst His people and for a thousand years in the Millennium.
Does the Scriptures tell us to celebrate his birth or to acknowledge His death, burial and ressurection instead?
 
Does the Scriptures tell us to celebrate his birth or to acknowledge His death, burial and ressurection instead?
No “instead” needed. Both are included. We see the angels appearing to the shepherds celebrating, then the shepherds coming to see Him, and celebrating. We see the Magi celebrating HIs birth, and bringing Him gifts.
 
Behold, the Lamb of God
29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is he of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel.” 32 And John bore witness: “I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”

Jesus is the unblemished Lamb of God. He fulfills the ancient law of Passover as the Lamb. Therefore, you must eat of the Lamb to fulfill the Passover meal. This is called the Eucharist.

I would love to do the Gospel of Mark since that is my favorite Gospel. Thanks! 😃
 
Jesus is the unblemished Lamb of God. He fulfills the ancient law of Passover as the Lamb. Therefore, you must eat of the Lamb to fulfill the Passover meal. This is called the Eucharist.

I would love to do the Gospel of Mark since that is my favorite Gospel. Thanks! 😃
Sure, let’s do the gospel of Mark after John. Do you think the disciples ate the actual flesh of Jesus and drank his literal blood in the upper room while Jesus was still with them? I’m sorry if this offends, but I just watched a zombie movie with my son. Your comment reminded me of that flesh eating zombie movie. The 2nd feature should have been a vampire movie. Well, at least my comments are in-line with Halloween (Reformation day). 🤷
 
Jesus is the unblemished Lamb of God. He fulfills the ancient law of Passover as the Lamb. Therefore, you must eat of the Lamb to fulfill the Passover meal. This is called the Eucharist.

I would love to do the Gospel of Mark since that is my favorite Gospel. Thanks! 😃
huh? Passover meal???

Anyway, I won’t comment on your typology. I’d rather suggest a favorite study topic – how about Romans 9? (go figure coming from a Calvinist right?)
 
Sure, let’s do the gospel of Mark after John. Do you think the disciples ate the actual flesh of Jesus and drank his literal blood in the upper room while Jesus was still with them? I’m sorry if this offends, but I just watched a zombie movie with my son. Your comment reminded me of that flesh eating zombie movie. The 2nd feature should have been a vampire movie. Well, at least my comments are in-line with Halloween (Reformation day). 🤷
I think the answer is in the opening passages. “The Word was made flesh.”
Matthew 19:26 “With God all things are possible.”
Your statement does not offend me. Why would you put such a statement in this forum? If you had time to type it out, you had time to think about what you were typing.
In the upper room He created the Sacrament of Communion with His Words. The Mystery of the Kingdom of God is just that and through His Words we become members of that Mystery to the point that we believe what He tells us.
 
Does the Scriptures tell us to celebrate his birth or to acknowledge His death, burial and ressurection instead?
Not explicitly, but if there is no Christmas, there is no Easter. Where does it sayto “celebrate” his ressurection?
 
Sure, let’s do the gospel of Mark after John. Do you think the disciples ate the actual flesh of Jesus and drank his literal blood in the upper room while Jesus was still with them? I’m sorry if this offends, but I just watched a zombie movie with my son. Your comment reminded me of that flesh eating zombie movie. The 2nd feature should have been a vampire movie. Well, at least my comments are in-line with Halloween (Reformation day). 🤷
Zombies are dead … Jesus is alive. Actually your response is like those in John 6 … how can this man give us his flesh to eat … if they had zombie movies 2000 years ago your comment might have made it into Scripture. Jesus’s own words use flesh, blood, eat, drink,true food, true drink. It confused people 2000 years ago … it still does. If Jesus did not say this … you may have a case … but He did so you must reconcile Jesus’s words … to what you believe.

So sorry Jesus’s own words remind you of zombie movies.
 
I think the answer is in the opening passages. “The Word was made flesh.”
Matthew 19:26 “With God all things are possible.”
Your statement does not offend me. Why would you put such a statement in this forum? If you had time to type it out, you had time to think about what you were typing.
In the upper room He created the Sacrament of Communion with His Words. The Mystery of the Kingdom of God is just that and through His Words we become members of that Mystery to the point that we believe what He tells us.
Thank you for understanding my posting in making a theological point only. “The Word was made flesh” seems to be about the incarnation only. God entered the word as the god-man on our behalf. I’m not sure it has anything to do with the Catholic view of the Eucharist, do you?
 
Zombies are dead … Jesus is alive. Actually your response is like those in John 6 … how can this man give us his flesh to eat … if they had zombie movies 2000 years ago your comment might have made it into Scripture. Jesus’s own words use flesh, blood, eat, drink,true food, true drink. It confused people 2000 years ago … it still does. If Jesus did not say this … you may have a case … but He did so you must reconcile Jesus’s words … to what you believe.

So sorry Jesus’s own words remind you of zombie movies.
This is good right, reasoning in the Scriptures! God the Holy Spirit must illuminate spiritual truths to our hearts and mind. Please continue to mediate on the entire John chapter 6 in regards to what Jesus said about flesh and blood.
 
Speaking of zombies… it made me think about the Lazarus account. This is very significant because it parallels our spiritual condition prior to Jesus calling us to spiritual life. We are all born spirituality dead into this world. God by his grace alone, makes us spirituality alive for His good pleasure and His own glory. Do you think Lazarus had free will to choose Jesus Christ for life? No!..he was a dead corpse…just like us a spiritual dead corpse to God before we were granted the spiritual birth.

John 11

The Death of Lazarus
11:1 Now a certain man was ill, Lazarus of Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 It was Mary who anointed the Lord with ointment and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was ill. 3 So the sisters sent to him, saying, “Lord, he whom you love is ill.” 4 But when Jesus heard it he said, “This illness does not lead to death. It is for the glory of God, so that the Son of God may be glorified through it.”

5 Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. 6 So, when he heard that Lazarus [1] was ill, he stayed two days longer in the place where he was. 7 Then after this he said to the disciples, “Let us go to Judea again.” 8 The disciples said to him, “Rabbi, the Jews were just now seeking to stone you, and are you going there again?” 9 Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world. 10 But if anyone walks in the night, he stumbles, because the light is not in him.” 11 After saying these things, he said to them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I go to awaken him.” 12 The disciples said to him, “Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover.” 13 Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that he meant taking rest in sleep. 14 Then Jesus told them plainly, “Lazarus has died, 15 and for your sake I am glad that I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.” 16 So Thomas, called the Twin, [2] said to his fellow disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with him.”

Jesus Weeps
28 When she had said this, she went and called her sister Mary, saying in private, “The Teacher is here and is calling for you.” 29 And when she heard it, she rose quickly and went to him. 30 Now Jesus had not yet come into the village, but was still in the place where Martha had met him. 31 When the Jews who were with her in the house, consoling her, saw Mary rise quickly and go out, they followed her, supposing that she was going to the tomb to weep there. 32 Now when Mary came to where Jesus was and saw him, she fell at his feet, saying to him, “Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died.” 33 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in his spirit and greatly troubled. 34 And he said, “Where have you laid him?” They said to him, “Lord, come and see.” 35 Jesus wept. 36 So the Jews said, “See how he loved him!” 37 But some of them said, “Could not he who opened the eyes of the blind man also have kept this man from dying?”

Jesus Raises Lazarus
38 Then Jesus, deeply moved again, came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone lay against it. 39 Jesus said, “Take away the stone.” Martha, the sister of the dead man, said to him, “Lord, by this time there will be an odor, for he has been dead four days.” 40 Jesus said to her, “Did I not tell you that if you believed you would see the glory of God?” 41 So they took away the stone. And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me. 42 I knew that you always hear me, but I said this on account of the people standing around, that they may believe that you sent me.” 43 When he had said these things, he cried out with a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out.” 44 The man who had died came out, his hands and feet bound with linen strips, and his face wrapped with a cloth. Jesus said to them, “Unbind him, and let him go.”

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Thank you for understanding my posting in making a theological point only. “The Word was made flesh” seems to be about the incarnation only. God entered the word as the god-man on our behalf. I’m not sure it has anything to do with the Catholic view of the Eucharist, do you?
Then go to “All things were made through him.” Then John 6 and the upper room that follows become something to really meditate on. It must be meditated through the spirit and not according to the flesh.
 
35 Jesus wept.
The beauty is in the detail. This is how the Son of Man shows his own love for humanity, as He did not create us to die but for eternal life with Him.

Also, it gives insight that Jesus is truly man as He has feelings like we do, while being truly God.
 
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