Jesus crucified by romans for high treason?

[LilyM]

Very debatable.

What if I told you that God was setting up the Graco-Roman empire as his True Holy Land and Kingdom during the time of the Old Testament?

What If I told you that Jesus and the Centurion is really there to demonstrate that Jesus is of Rome, and that the Law and Sabbath was actually ‘alien’ to him (yes, ‘alien’ is what the Catechism calls the religion/worship of the old covenant meaning it was ‘alien’ to Christ. It DID point to Christ however and often type-shadowed the (authentic) Faith in Spirit and truth)

What if I told you theres additional correspondances of Pilot to the Rome, perserved until this day where Pilot speaks so fondly of Jesus. After all, a learned intilectual like Pilot wanted to know ‘what is truth?’

And why did was he named Jesus? Names like Jesus and Nicodemus arent native names like Herod and Judas Iscariot (things that make you go hmmmm).

Was Rome or Greece crucifying people out in the open in their homelands? No? Did you know crucifixion is based off the OT Law?

So who is Christ closer to considering all this? Someone of Rome, an Israelite?

I’d say he was ANYTHING BUT Judean - i mean come on… he had to leave just to leave just to save his life! - Both as Baby AND as adult! Thats why he dwelled and lived in Galilee and was referred to more than once as a Galilean (way up north near Lebanon and Syria). You know, the same Gallilee refered TWICE as ‘Galillee [land] of the GENTILES’.

well wait… EXEPT for Judas Iscariot - he was the ONLY Judean and his last name was named after a town in Judea.

So I certainly do NOT consider a closed possibility that he was of Rome in a certain capacity. What does ROMANS 1:7 say? TO ALL WHO ARE IN ROME. Some is Jesus Roman? Umm… in a general context YES he was in Rome and proves so back then and through history.

On thing he is NOT though, is King of the Judeans. His own did notmrecieve him and made that charge AGAINST HIM. They used it to mock him. Because he wasnt one of them.

Rome = Good (Romans 1:7)
Synagogue (Sindacyte) Of Satan = Bad

The good did not kill Jesus. The light doesn’t mix with dark like they want us to believe. Such modern teachings are from the Synagogue/Lodge - not the One Holy Catholic and Apostalistic Church of ROME amd her Kingdom (empire) of God.

Of course the Romans crucified people all over the place. Think of Spartacus and his revolting slaves. And they did worse. And didn’t give a darn about what territory they were on when they did it.

The one thing the Romans did NOT do was - crucify Romans. Spartacus and his followers were not Romans but slaves. Jesus was not Roman either, hence Pilate trying to palm him off to Herod (who had governance over citizens of Galilee, of which Jesus was a resident). Herod had no jurisdiction over Romans at all.

Remember St Paul, who actually did have Roman citizenship? When Paul insisted on his rights as a Roman he was not, if memory serves, even sent to the local Roman governor for trial, but was sent direct to Rome. Romans were very particular as to who judged their own.

 

[SnoopSword]

Well he DIDN’T release Jesus, so why “unsuccessfully”?

Because the JEWS killed him UNDER Pilot. I have a whole list of verses on the main compiter where this is demonstrated in the OT and NT. Remember though, a good potion accepted - the lost sheep of Israel (the true seed of Abraham). Jesus told those who killed him that IF they were really the seed of Abraham, then they wouldnt be trying to kill him.

Also ‘Jews’ is a fabricated word the replaced ‘Judeans’ in the 18th centruay. Judah is Judahites - not ‘Jews’. The inserted the world to make things theologically easier. One HUGE mistake they made, ended up to be a MASSIVE CURSE for those who can be decieved.

Its when Jesus says to the woman at the well is when they said ‘salvation is of the Jews’ rather than ‘Judeans’ because the topic was about geography - Jesus and his entourage was passing through and she would have noticed by his tassles that they were passing through from Judea.

Actually why not. I hope someone can find use of this;

-Samaritan woman is taken back and surprised: You ‘Jews’ dont speak/associate with us. Jews as a RACE here is CORRECT so use the term ‘Jews’ because Samaria is in between Galilee up North, and Judea down south so all sorts of ‘Jews’ visiting, making pilgrams, etc., would have come through. Basically they were seen as defiled because of their racial impurity - and somethings never change.

Jesus Responds - It doesn’t matter what he said, the fact he responded confirms 100% that he is NOT racially a Jew! That is INCREDIBLY important! His flesh is critical to our salvation and drifting off into a blashemy like that denies God essentially. His flesh was a ‘second Adam’, a ‘new creation’, and his Mother, and our Mother, is a ‘daughter of Adam’ without any stain of orginial sin. Both are infallibly declared. Explaining more detail at end of post. The True God is Catholic (Universal). And since he’s come, our understanding of God is made new, with a new heavens, new earth, and new day, He was also a citizen though (which doesnt get much discussion actually). The new citizen (neighbor) by example is Christ - and I would say, he became the new Roman. How could he NOT showcase a type of citizen? The Kingdom is among the top most reasons he came. Today it exists in the walls of Catholic Church worldwide.

I mean, just look for yourself and parse the seriousness and severity of the verse. And they are not speaking of Italy as it has its own name they use. Yes, they ARE Speaking of ROME!- AFTER ALL, its the LEAST read verse in America for a reason!

Romans 1:7 To ALL that be in ROME, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ

The ‘called’ part is VERY SEVERE and one of the STRONGEST, HARDEST parts in the whole bible. I have subjected myself to the Pontif of ROME. I believe in ROME as Gods own City/Kingdom/Empire.

All it takes is a MUSTARD SEED OF FAITH to move the MOUNTAIN from Palestine to Rome. Yes many of you can hear this saying, and anyone here can eventually hear it in time. But that’s only because you HAVE THE MUSTARDSEED of Faith ALREADY through baptism. The rest of humanity (Adamites) do NOT. They have a MEASURE of faith - not a SEED of Faith (too long to get into). I will tell you though that those WOTHOUT the mustard seed of faith simply do not GET IT. They are almost invapable of ‘seeing’ and ‘hearing’ what Scripture says. They can be very high IQ it doesnt matter, And MANY American Christians today were with NEVER baptised - even by a local church with a minimalistic recognized valid baptism, OR, they have been baptised in bath water becaue they are heretical to the point of being ‘non-Christian’. I have the list of invalid baptisms downstairs but make no mistake - PENTECOSTAL (ALL OF THEM) are recognized as INVALID baptisms. And I always ask people if theu were baby baptised. You wouldnt believe how many Americans are unbaptized, or had invalid baptisms, and yet are self proclaimed Chritians and experts thereof.​

Some notes on Flesh etc; in short is of the Royal Family Line of David. Todays current Queen Elizabeth the 2nd is supposedly the 122nd decendant of David and part of the same line. You dont know how real this is. The Royal Family supposedly has real Biblical artifacts like the stone of destiny and an actual rod/scepter in the Bible. The UK flag is actually deom the Bible symbolizing a pact. Supposedly these family lines pre-dated Jesus. Watch the Queens Corination ceremony on Youtube and listen to what the Priest says theought. He literally appoints her the task of spreading Christiany all over the world. She says the every human man shall be made subject to the Christian empire etc.