Jesus died in India

[dolphinlove]

Hi
Yes, our sect is under persecution for more than a hundred years in many countries, but we are a peaceful community we do not like to reciprocate.
JesusYeshuaIssa was also persecuted by Jewish clergy of his period so have these adherents of MullahIslam become like Jews.
Thanks

You might like to access
thepersecution.org/
for seeing latest about persecution of Ahmadis

Paarsurrey,
Ill pray for your people.
But you do understand, although you are Muslim, you are not the mainstream muslims, and we dont see you as mainstream.
Mainstream is the ones Belfarfalla and others are talking about.
As they said, your version of Islam is heretic.
I hope you live in peace and your people are not harmed.
God Bless
Dolphinlove

 

[BelFarfalla]

Hi
Yes, our sect is under persecution for more than a hundred years in many countries, but we are a peaceful community we do not like to reciprocate.
JesusYeshuaIssa was also persecuted by Jewish clergy of his period so have these adherents of MullahIslam become like Jews.
Thanks

You might like to access
thepersecution.org/
for seeing latest about persecution of Ahmadis

paarsurrey, I give you a hard time once in a while. But I get the point. You and your sect are good people. If your views will spread into mainstreamIslam the world would be a better place.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey, I give you a hard time once in a while. But I get the point. You and your sect are good people. If your views will spread into mainstreamIslam the world would be a better place.

Hi
I appreciate your response. Your are welcome to give me what you say a hard time once in a while or even often.
Thanks

The first and primary source on “Jesus did not die on Cross” and later died naturally is the pristine Word of God revealed on the PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908.

 

[Dispector]

paarsurrey,

You and your people are in my prayers.

Respectfully,
Mark

 

[Mr.Bee]

Why does it matter? Why can’t you let people have their own beliefs?

Because all these bold statements and all this believing in different things is all about vanity. Nobody likes it when somebody else thinks they’re better than us.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey,
You and your people are in my prayers.
Respectfully,
Mark

Hi
I thank you for your prayers. I love friends in every religion or non-religion. You are a good friend.
May GodAllahYHWH bless you!
Thanks

The first and primary source on “Jesus did not die on Cross” and later died naturally is the pristine Word of God revealed on the PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908.

 

[BelFarfalla]

Hi
I appreciate your response. Your are welcome to give me what you say a hard time once in a while or even often.
Thanks

The first and primary source on “Jesus did not die on Cross” and later died naturally is the pristine Word of God revealed on the PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908.

 

[paarsurrey]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MStreeter
paarsurrey,
Although I would greatly enjoy to read the books you suggested I find it would be too slow and anti-productive in this format. Please post excerpts or quotations from the books you claim to be the proof. That would move this discussion beyond hearsay.
Respectfully,
Streeter

Hi
I give hereunder an excerpt, the first passage from the first chapter of the book:
“Let it be noted that though Christians believe that Jesus (peace be on him) after his arrest through the betrayal by Judas Iscariot, and crucifixion – and resurrection – went to heaven, yet, from the Holy Bible, it appears that this belief of theirs is altogether wrong. Matthew (chapter 12, verse 40) says that just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the fish, so the Son of Man shall be three days and three nights in the bowels of the earth. Now it is clear that Jonah did not die in the belly of the fish; the utmost that happened was that he was in a swoon or a fit of fainting. The holy books of God bear witness that Jonah, by the grace of God, remained alive in the belly of the fish, and came out alive; and his people ultimately accepted him. If then Jesus (on whom be peace) had died in the belly of the ‘fish’, what resemblance could there be between a dead man and the one who was alive, and how could a living one be compared with one dead? The truth rather is, that as Jesus was a true prophet and as he knew that God, whose beloved he was, would save him from an accursed death, he made a prophecy in the form of a parable, revealed to him by God, in which he hinted that he would not die on the Cross, nor would he give up the ghost on the accursed wood; on the contrary, like the prophet Jonah, he would only pass through a state of swoon. In the parable he had also hinted that he would come out of the bowels of the earth and would then join the people and, like Jonah, would be honoured by them. So this prophecy too was fulfilled; for Jesus, coming out of the bowels of the earth, went to his tribes who lived in the eastern countries, Kashmir and Tibet, etc. viz. the ten tribes of the Israelites who 721 years* before Jesus, had been taken prisoner from Samaria by Shalmaneser, King of Assur, and had been taken away by him. Ultimately, these tribes came to India and settled in various parts of that country. Jesus at all events must have made this journey; for the divine object underlying his advent was that he should meet the lost Jews who had settled in different parts of India; the reason being that these in fact were the lost sheep of Israel who had given up even their ancestral faith in these countries, and most of whom had adopted Buddhism, relapsing, gradually into idolatry. Dr. Bernier, on the authority of a number of learned people, states in his Travels that the Kashmiris in reality are Jews who in the time of the dispersal in the days of the King of Assur had migrated to this country.**
In any case it was necessary for Jesus (peace be on him) to find out the whereabouts of these lost sheep, who had, on coming to this country, India, become merged into the other people. I shall presently adduce evidence that Jesus (peace be on him) did in fact come to India and then, by stages, travelled to Kashmir, and discovered the lost sheep of Israel among the people who professed the Buddhist faith and that these people ultimately accepted him, just as the people of the prophet Jonah accepted Jonah. And this was inevitable, for Jesus had said in so many words that he had been sent to the lost sheep of Israel.”
*Besides these, more Jews were exiled to eastern countries as a result of Babylonian excesses.
**Dr. Bernier, Travels, Vol. II
Thanks

 

[dbacks5439]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MStreeter
paarsurrey,
Although I would greatly enjoy to read the books you suggested I find it would be too slow and anti-productive in this format. Please post excerpts or quotations from the books you claim to be the proof. That would move this discussion beyond hearsay.
Respectfully,
Streeter

Hi
I give hereunder an excerpt, the first passage from the first chapter of the book:
“Let it be noted that though Christians believe that Jesus (peace be on him) after his arrest through the betrayal by Judas Iscariot, and crucifixion – and resurrection – went to heaven, yet, from the Holy Bible, it appears that this belief of theirs is altogether wrong. Matthew (chapter 12, verse 40) says that just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the fish, so the Son of Man shall be three days and three nights in the bowels of the earth. Now it is clear that Jonah did not die in the belly of the fish; the utmost that happened was that he was in a swoon or a fit of fainting. The holy books of God bear witness that Jonah, by the grace of God, remained alive in the belly of the fish, and came out alive; and his people ultimately accepted him. If then Jesus (on whom be peace) had died in the belly of the ‘fish’, what resemblance could there be between a dead man and the one who was alive, and how could a living one be compared with one dead? The truth rather is, that as Jesus was a true prophet and as he knew that God, whose beloved he was, would save him from an accursed death, he made a prophecy in the form of a parable, revealed to him by God, in which he hinted that he would not die on the Cross, nor would he give up the ghost on the accursed wood; on the contrary, like the prophet Jonah, he would only pass through a state of swoon. In the parable he had also hinted that he would come out of the bowels of the earth and would then join the people and, like Jonah, would be honoured by them. So this prophecy too was fulfilled; for Jesus, coming out of the bowels of the earth, went to his tribes who lived in the eastern countries, Kashmir and Tibet, etc. viz. the ten tribes of the Israelites who 721 years* before Jesus, had been taken prisoner from Samaria by Shalmaneser, King of Assur, and had been taken away by him. Ultimately, these tribes came to India and settled in various parts of that country. Jesus at all events must have made this journey; for the divine object underlying his advent was that he should meet the lost Jews who had settled in different parts of India; the reason being that these in fact were the lost sheep of Israel who had given up even their ancestral faith in these countries, and most of whom had adopted Buddhism, relapsing, gradually into idolatry. Dr. Bernier, on the authority of a number of learned people, states in his Travels that the Kashmiris in reality are Jews who in the time of the dispersal in the days of the King of Assur had migrated to this country.**
In any case it was necessary for Jesus (peace be on him) to find out the whereabouts of these lost sheep, who had, on coming to this country, India, become merged into the other people. I shall presently adduce evidence that Jesus (peace be on him) did in fact come to India and then, by stages, travelled to Kashmir, and discovered the lost sheep of Israel among the people who professed the Buddhist faith and that these people ultimately accepted him, just as the people of the prophet Jonah accepted Jonah. And this was inevitable, for Jesus had said in so many words that he had been sent to the lost sheep of Israel.”
*Besides these, more Jews were exiled to eastern countries as a result of Babylonian excesses.
**Dr. Bernier, Travels, Vol. II
Thanks

If Dr. Bernier makes the Jonah comparison, then why would he ignore the prophecies that were made showing that Jesus is God? Psalm 68:20 says, “He will escape the powers of death.” This is shown in the New Testament in Mt. 28:6, Mk 16:6, and Lk 24:46. Jesus will ascend into Heaven (Psalm 68:18–>John 20:17) and He will be seated at the right hand of the Father (Psalm 110:1–>Hebrew 1:3)

The mormons claim Jesus went to America. The fact is that neither India or America has any reference to Jesus. None of the Indian manuscripts or ways of life reflected Christ’s teaching until Christians came to India. There is also no mention of Christ in Native American culture. You have no proof.

 

[jimmy85]

If Dr. Bernier makes the Jonah comparison, then why would he ignore the prophecies that were made showing that Jesus is God? Psalm 68:20 says, “He will escape the powers of death.” This is shown in the New Testament in Mt. 28:6, Mk 16:6, and Lk 24:46. Jesus will ascend into Heaven (Psalm 68:18–>John 20:17) and He will be seated at the right hand of the Father (Psalm 110:1–>Hebrew 1:3)

Basically all the OT is depicting and profeticing Jesus , his coming, his life, death , resurection etc.
So if anyone want to read and understand the true meaning of the OT, one should read this links:

biblia.com/jesusbible/types.htm

bibleprobe.com/365messianicprophecies.htm

biblia.com/christianity2/virgin.htm#Virgin

godandscience.org/apologetics/prophmessiah.html

 

[paarsurrey]

Hi
PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908 extends his argument further:
“Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart. A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil – and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.*
It is clear that the significance of the word Mal’un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus. Can we say that Jesus’ heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy? Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial? If, then, Jesus had never been in such a state of mind, that his heart was always full of love and the light of Divine Knowledge, is it for you, wise people, to ponder whether we can ever say that, not one, but thousands of curses from God had descended upon the heart of Jesus with all their evil significance? Never. Then, how can we say that he was, God forbid, accursed? It is a pity that once a man has given utterance to something, when he has taken his stand upon a particular belief, he is not inclined to give up that belief, however much the absurdity thereof be exposed. Desire to attain salvation, if grounded upon true foundations, is a praiseworthy thing, but where is the sense in having a desire for salvation which kills truth and which countenances, regarding a holy prophet arid a perfect man, the belief that he had as it were passed through a state in which he had been estranged from God, and in which, instead of unity of heart and unity of inclination, there had been produced a strangeness and aloofness, enmity and hatred; and, instead of light, darkness had surrounded his heart?
Let it also be noticed that this not only detracts from the prophethood and apostleship of Jesus (on whom be the peace of God) but it is also derogatory to his claim to spiritual eminence, holiness, love, and knowledge of God, to which he has repeatedly given expression in the gospels. Just look through the Bible; therein Jesus clearly claims that he is the Light of the world, that he is the Guide, and that he stands in a relation of great love towards God; that he has been honoured by a clean birth, and that he is the loved Son of God. How then, in spite of these pure and holy relations, can a curse, with all its significance, be attributed to Jesus? No, never. Therefore, there is no doubt that Jesus was not crucified, i.e., he did not die on the Cross, for his personality did not deserve the underlying consequence of death on the Cross. Not having been crucified, he was spared the impure implications of a curse, and no doubt it also proves that he did not go to heaven, for going to heaven formed part of this whole scheme and was a consequence of the idea of his having been crucified. Therefore, when it is proved that he was neither accursed, nor did he go to hell for three days, nor did he suffer death the other part of the scheme, namely, that he went to heaven, is proved to be wrong.”

• See the lexicons: Lisan-ul-Arab, Sihah Jauhar, Qamus, Muhit,
  Taj-ul-Arus, etc.
  Thanks

 

[kellie]

Hi
Quran, you don’t believe in so it is no use to quote verses from Quran before a Catholic. Jesus neither left any Stone Tablets (like Moses, though they claim that Jesus was a ProphetMessenger like Moses) containing Word from GodAllahYHWH, nor any biography written by himself or anything else authenticated by him; the scribes who wrote something by themselves couldn’t be trusted as they all deserted Jesus in the hour of need .Since I love Jesus (and Mary and respect those who follow him) and Jesus so often quoted from OTBible, so it is a common ground between Catholics and the Muslims. I think that answers your query.
Thanks

The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of peaceful and human loving Muhammad and his religion Islam and Islam of PromisedMessiahImamMahdi is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking moral and peaceful.

I haven’t been here for a week so sorry that I am just catching up.

Jesus IS the Word, in flesh, so there is no need for Him to leave written word, prophets can prophesize by orally relating what God tells them anyway, where is it in rule book that it has to be written ?? (even though Jesus was not a prophet)

The Apostles never deserted Jesus in His time of need
Please show me where it is written that they did.

So once more I will ask you to stop referring to the OT, you keep quoting stuff that only the Jews are still following, not Christians. If you want to come to a Christian forum and debate,discuss, then use a Christian common ground.

 

[blacktiger057]

There is a lot more of it.
In what way do you think he was divinely inspired instead of just being a charismatic man who was able to gather the Arab tribes into cohesive force?

Well, a whole religion is based on him, so I don’t say to people that it is wrong to see Muhhamad as a prophet. I don’t know alot of Islam but from what I have heard Muhhamad seems pretty twisted now. But that doesn’t mean that Muslims are, because they just follow a belief system and try to live up to God’s expectattions like we do.

 

[BelFarfalla]

Well, a whole religion is based on him, so I don’t say to people that it is wrong to see Muhhamad as a prophet. I don’t know alot of Islam but from what I have heard Muhhamad seems pretty twisted now. But that doesn’t mean that Muslims are, because they just follow a belief system and try to live up to God’s expectattions like we do.

Satanism is a whole religion based around somethign evil. It does not make it right just because people do it.

Like you said you don’t know a lot about Islam. The things that they believe are 'God’s expectations might surprise you.

For example, non-Muslims living under Islamic rule have almost no rights of any kind. They have to pay high taxes for the ‘privilege’ of being subjugated by Isalm. No non-Islamice religous symbols are allowed. No new churches are allowed. Churches are not allowed to have a cross on their exterior. (this type of rule woudl go for all religions not just Chritians.)

Any Muslim who leaves Islam MUST be executed.

Any non-Muslim who says thying against Islam MUST be excuted.

Violent Jihad againt non-Muslims for the sole purpose of spreading Islam is required of all able bodied Muslims. This means that some Muslims can fight and the others must give material support to those who fight.

Adulterers are to be executed.

These are just a few of the things that bother many about Islam.

Are you really willing to shurg your shoulders and say that all of this is fine because they think that allah commanded it? Before you answer, remember that you are one of the targets of the above laws.

 

[blacktiger057]

OKay, now that I know more about Islam. That almost ranks up right there with Satanism!!!

Any religion that does that is horrible and must be reformed. Thank you so much for this informations.

 

[BelFarfalla]

OKay, now that I know more about Islam. That almost ranks up right there with Satanism!!!

Any religion that does that is horrible and must be reformed. Thank you so much for this informations.

Much of Islam sounds a lot like Christianity in their beliefs. But then there are those things above and more… like the command that allows and instructs a man to beat his wife, that are simply unacceptable.

We need to let Muslims know that the world will not tolerate the points of the religion that are unacceptable like the ones I listed above. Why? Because all of us non-Muslims are the tragets of those laws… why would, or should, we to tolerant of a religion that calls for our subjugation at the very least and our slaughter at the worst?

 

[blacktiger057]

Much of Islam sounds a lot like Christianity in their beliefs. But then there are those things above and more… like the command that allows and instructs a man to beat his wife, that are simply unacceptable.

We need to let Muslims know that the world will not tolerate the points of the religion that are unacceptable like the ones I listed above. Why? Because all of us non-Muslims are the tragets of those laws… why would, or should, we to tolerant of a religion that calls for our subjugation at the very least and our slaughter at the worst?

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

 

[paarsurrey]

Much of Islam sounds a lot like Christianity in their beliefs.

Hi
This is because Moses, Jesus and Muhammad were servants of the same GodAllahYHWH.

 

[mirandajb]

QUOTE=paarsurrey;2409118]Hi
PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908 extends his argument further:
"Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart. A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil – and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.*
It is clear that the significance of the word Mal’un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus. Can we say that Jesus’ heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy? Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial? If, then, Jesus had never been in such a state of mind, that his heart was always full of love and the light of Divine Knowledge, is it for you, wise people, to ponder whether we can ever say that, not one, but thousands of curses from God had descended upon the heart of Jesus with all their evil significance? Never. Then, how can we say that he was, God forbid, accursed? It is a pity that once a man has given utterance to something, when he has taken his stand upon a particular belief, he is not inclined to give up that belief, however much the absurdity thereof be exposed. Desire to attain salvation, if grounded upon true foundations, is a praiseworthy thing, but where is the sense in having a desire for salvation which kills truth and which countenances, regarding a holy prophet arid a perfect man, the belief that he had as it were passed through a state in which he had been estranged from God, and in which, instead of unity of heart and unity of inclination, there had been produced a strangeness and aloofness, enmity and hatred; and, instead of light, darkness had surrounded his heart?
Let it also be noticed that this not only detracts from the prophethood and apostleship of Jesus (on whom be the peace of God) but it is also derogatory to his claim to spiritual eminence, holiness, love, and knowledge of God, to which he has repeatedly given expression in the gospels. Just look through the Bible; therein Jesus clearly claims that he is the Light of the world, that he is the Guide, and that he stands in a relation of great love towards God; that he has been honoured by a clean birth, and that he is the loved Son of God. How then, in spite of these pure and holy relations, can a curse, with all its significance, be attributed to Jesus? No, never. Therefore, there is no doubt that Jesus was not crucified, i.e., he did not die on the Cross, for his personality did not deserve the underlying consequence of death on the Cross. Not having been crucified, he was spared the impure implications of a curse, and no doubt it also proves that he did not go to heaven, for going to heaven formed part of this whole scheme and was a consequence of the idea of his having been crucified.

Yes Jesus became a curse because He took the sins of the world upon Himself. He must have looked awful on the Cross because of all our sins (including yours paarsurrey). The bible clearly says that He will become a curse because of us. In the OT when Moses asked for the bronze serpent to be placed on a standard, it was pointing to Jesus who becomes sin - a serpent - on the cross because of us. If Jesus did not die on the cross, he cannot be resurrected - that is a fact that no one can change. Even the Sanhedrin tried to spread rumours that Jesus did not die and that His disciples smuggled him away. So what you are saying is nothing new. You keep your beliefs and we shall keep ours. If God so decides one day to reveal this to all of you - after removing the scales from your eyes and your heart - you shall be truly blessed. God bless.

 

[dbacks5439]

Hi
PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908 extends his argument further:
“Apart from this, it was necessary that he should escape death on the cross, for it was stated in the Holy Book that whoever was hanged on the wood was accursed. It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la’nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one’s heart. A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil – and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.*
It is clear that the significance of the word Mal’un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus. Can we say that Jesus’ heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy? Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial? If, then, Jesus had never been in such a state of mind, that his heart was always full of love and the light of Divine Knowledge, is it for you, wise people, to ponder whether we can ever say that, not one, but thousands of curses from God had descended upon the heart of Jesus with all their evil significance? Never. Then, how can we say that he was, God forbid, accursed? It is a pity that once a man has given utterance to something, when he has taken his stand upon a particular belief, he is not inclined to give up that belief, however much the absurdity thereof be exposed. Desire to attain salvation, if grounded upon true foundations, is a praiseworthy thing, but where is the sense in having a desire for salvation which kills truth and which countenances, regarding a holy prophet arid a perfect man, the belief that he had as it were passed through a state in which he had been estranged from God, and in which, instead of unity of heart and unity of inclination, there had been produced a strangeness and aloofness, enmity and hatred; and, instead of light, darkness had surrounded his heart?
Let it also be noticed that this not only detracts from the prophethood and apostleship of Jesus (on whom be the peace of God) but it is also derogatory to his claim to spiritual eminence, holiness, love, and knowledge of God, to which he has repeatedly given expression in the gospels. Just look through the Bible; therein Jesus clearly claims that he is the Light of the world, that he is the Guide, and that he stands in a relation of great love towards God; that he has been honoured by a clean birth, and that he is the loved Son of God. How then, in spite of these pure and holy relations, can a curse, with all its significance, be attributed to Jesus? No, never. Therefore, there is no doubt that Jesus was not crucified, i.e., he did not die on the Cross, for his personality did not deserve the underlying consequence of death on the Cross. Not having been crucified, he was spared the impure implications of a curse, and no doubt it also proves that he did not go to heaven, for going to heaven formed part of this whole scheme and was a consequence of the idea of his having been crucified. Therefore, when it is proved that he was neither accursed, nor did he go to hell for three days, nor did he suffer death the other part of the scheme, namely, that he went to heaven, is proved to be wrong.”

• See the lexicons: Lisan-ul-Arab, Sihah Jauhar, Qamus, Muhit,
  Taj-ul-Arus, etc.
  Thanks

So you do believe He’s the Messiah and not just a prophet.