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My wife is in conversation with an old boyfriend she knew from her protestant days. There is no worries about my wife’s loyalties so we are not worried. This boy friend has a doctorate in philosophy and an advanced degree in biology to top it off he is a university professor. He was a strong believer at one point in his life now he is a self proclaimed atheist. Now to his question: if Jesus only has Mary’s DNA how is Jesus not a woman?

Your assistance on this question is greatly appreciated.
 
I was actually unaware of him inheriting any genes whatsoever.
 
All things are possible through God.

Plus Jesus isn’t fatherless. Duh:rolleyes:
 
Guys

It is a civil conversation and this is a real questions is from someone who is open to the truth. He is simply asking if he was born of a virgin then it stands to reason that his only DNA would be from his mother. If his only DNA is from his mother then it would stand to reason that he would only have female DNA.
I believe that Jesus father was the Holy Spirit, but I don’t believe that the Holy Spirit deposited any DNA. I am interested in the answer if there is an answer.
I doubt that we can win the day by browbeating him, I think we can help win a soul by providing reasoned answers.
 
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Guys

It is a civil conversation and this is a real questions is from someone who is open to the truth. He is simply asking if he was born of a virgin then it stands to reason that his only DNA would be from his mother. If his only DNA is from his mother then it would stand to reason that he would only have female DNA.
I believe that Jesus father was the Holy Spirit, but I don’t believe that the Holy Spirit deposited any DNA. I am interested in the answer if there is an answer.
I doubt that we can win the day by browbeating him, I think we can help win a soul by providing reasoned answers.
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Well Jesus Is a Man Conceived in a Virgin, that male DNA has to come from somewhere doesn’t it?
 
HickmanJosh said:
Well Jesus Is a Man Conceived in a Virgin, that male DNA has to come from somewhere doesn’t it?
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The God who made and makes DNA from nothing is surely able to insert any DNA he wants.

To the OP: a non-believer, by definition, will never be convinced. He must firstly understand that “Reason’s last step it the recognition that there are an infinite number of things which are beyond it.” ~pascal
 
HickmanJosh said:
Well Jesus Is a Man Conceived in a Virgin, that male DNA has to come from somewhere doesn’t it?
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I am not sure, I know our God is not arbitrary like the god of Mohammad. I also know that somewhere in the Bible it says that God can raise up hairs from the very rocks. Again I don’t believe that God is arbitrary,
So the question is if Jesus is a Man how did he get the male chromosome.
 
It totally amazes me the questions people ask. Simply put HIS ways are not our ways, HIS thoughts are not our thoughts. Bottomline through GOD all thing are possible:confused:
 
roymckenzie said:
I am not sure, I know our God is not arbitrary like the god of Mohammad. I also know that somewhere in the Bible it says that God can raise up hairs from the very rocks. Again I don’t believe that God is arbitrary,
So the question is if Jesus is a Man how did he get the male chromosome.
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There is no scientific answer. God performed and completed the act of pregnancy.

Peace,
Ed
 
Serious questions deserve serious answers.

We know for fact Jesus was a male. That necessitates both X and Y chromosomes, does it not? His mother couldn’t have contributed the Y.

Now this could mean He had an Earthly father, but that is only if we limit explanations to the physical realm of this world. So let’s go there for a minute and see if it works.

In the last century, a girl in Italy who was born without pupils in her eyes was brought by her mother to St. Pio (a.k.a. Padre Pio) asking him to heal her. He prayed for her and God gave her the gift of eyesight. With no pupils in her eyes. Science has yet to offer an explanation of how that can happen. Since that case exists, and science cannot even begin to explain how a pupil-less eye can see anything, it is reasonable to presume that ability came from some source beyond science.

If that possibility exists for a real woman with real eyesight, that just so happened to suddenly come about following prayer and expressions of faith, to get that gift from an extra-scientific source, why would one exclude the possibility male chromosomes could be - just like sight - placed where science says it shouldn’t belong?

We really don’t know the “mechanism” of how it happened, all we have is the announcement followed by the birth of a son who just so happened to fulfill hundreds of events prophesied about Him centuries beforehand. Just the odds of fulfilling the 50+ predictions of His birth are something like (if I remember correctly) something like 1 chance in 1 X 10^78. That’s close to the same odds of hitting the Florida state lottery - 10 times in a row. Science would call that impossible. Would it make sense for all the other prophesies to be fulfilled in exact detail, yet leave one of them unfulfilled (virgin birth), even after sending a messenger to assure Mary it would happen? And the Being who would make such a mistake also has the power to give sight to a woman with no opening for light in her eyes?

C’mon!

How would the questioner align all of those events in such a way that science can answer them all?
 
roymckenzie said:
I am not sure, I know our God is not arbitrary like the god of Mohammad. I also know that somewhere in the Bible it says that God can raise up hairs from the very rocks. Again I don’t believe that God is arbitrary,
So the question is if Jesus is a Man how did he get the male chromosome.
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#1 Were talking about a virgin having a child, its got to stand to reason that if God could make a Virgin conceive a child than he could easily make him a man.

#2 Who says Marys DNA is even part of Jesus’s Genetic structure?
 
HickmanJosh said:
#1 Were talking about a virgin having a child, its got to stand to reason that if God could make a Virgin conceive a child than he could easily make him a man.

#2 Who says Marys DNA is even part of Jesus’s Genetic structure?
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This is a good question my answer to this question is to say that a prerequisite to Jesus being the anointed one says that he has to be from the line of David. It is required that Jesus receive his descendentcy from somewhere. I would think that would suggest a direct genetic link.
 
roymckenzie said:
This is a good question my answer to this question is to say that a prerequisite to Jesus being the anointed one says that he has to be from the line of David. It is required that Jesus receive his dependency from somewhere. I would think that would suggest a direct genetic link.
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We are talking about the God who is responsible for creating EVERYTHING from NOTHING - including every single strand of DNA. Surely he could also insert whatever DNA he wanted via the Immaculate Conception.
 
I would think that almighty God would provide His son the best male DNA available. Probably had some left over from Adam who was a fine speciman.
 
Micawber said:
We are talking about the God who is responsible for creating EVERYTHING from NOTHING - including every single strand of DNA. Surely he could also insert whatever DNA he wanted via the Immaculate Conception.
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The Immaculate Conception, of course, refers to the conception of Mary, not the conception of Jesus. Mary is held by the dogma to have been conceived without the effects of original sin, which doesn’t seem to invoke any particular genetic problems, but remains a theological notion.

That notwithstanding, I think it’s true that a God who could create the entire universe by divine fiat is likely capable of furnishing male DNA as a proxy for the flesh God did (does) not have.

It’s a fascinating quesiton to ask, though: why that particular DNA sequence over some other, as the recipe for the “body of Christ”? Someone upthread suggested that Jesus would certainly have the “very best” DNA available, and I’m sure that would might fine DNA, indeed. But that “superman” setup would seem to work against the prominent themes in Christianity of the empathy and solidarity with all mankind in Jesus’ incarnation. Kenosis loses a lot of its effectiveness theologically if God “emptied himself into a superman” and walked among us, as opposed to taking on the physical nature of the average and the humble.

-TS
 
roymckenzie said:
This is a good question my answer to this question is to say that a prerequisite to Jesus being the anointed one says that he has to be from the line of David. It is required that Jesus receive his descendentcy from somewhere. I would think that would suggest a direct genetic link.
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He was from the line of David, He(Jesus) was his(Joseph’s) son. At least according to Jewish standards at the time. He(Jesus) did originate (physically) from the house of David.

Jesus was conceived in an honorable marriage by God with Joseph as his EARTHLY father. He might not be directly genetically related but he came from a ligament marriage in the house of David.

Anyway what someone says is more important than there gender or genetic structure.
 
roymckenzie said:
My wife is in conversation with an old boyfriend she knew from her protestant days. There is no worries about my wife’s loyalties so we are not worried. This boy friend has a doctorate in philosophy and an advanced degree in biology to top it off he is a university professor. He was a strong believer at one point in his life now he is a self proclaimed atheist. Now to his question: if Jesus only has Mary’s DNA how is Jesus not a woman?
Your assistance on this question is greatly appreciated.
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Since the conception of Jesus was miraculous it seems odd to suppose his DNA was restricted to that which He inherited from Mary. Why should God be compelled to abide by the laws of genetics He has created?

The professor’s atheism has a very weak foundation if this is the most significant problem he can raise!
 
tonyrey said:
Since the conception of Jesus was miraculous it seems odd to suppose his DNA was restricted to that which He inherited from Mary. Why should God be compelled to abide by the laws of genetics He has created?
Well, “compelled” isn’t an effective term there, but the basis for abiding by the laws of genetics God established are fairly clear, I think: that’s one of the principal features of being human – partaking of the nature of those that came before, and those that produced you, strengths, weaknesses, dispositions good and bad, all. To the extent God made Jesus “superman”, or something freakish like "a male with no Y chromosome, the strength of the incarnation is diminished; Jesus is important because God became like us, right?
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