Jesus from LDS point of view

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The LDS uphold the belief that for men to become exalted they must be married, often with more than one wife (in the afterlife). If this is true, do the LDS hold the belief Jesus is an exalted man? If so, is there then the belief Jesus was married?
 
Marie - It sounds as though there is no “official teaching” on this, most LDS do believe Jesus was married.

Since one of the basic tenants of the LDS is that marriage is necessary for exaltation, it would be reasonable for the LDS to say Jesus must have been married as he is an exalted man.

*Please note I do not believe any of the above nor am I ignorant of much of LDS thought. This is just a question that occurred to me.
 
Marie - It sounds as though there is no “official teaching” on this, most LDS do believe Jesus was married.

Since one of the basic tenants of the LDS is that marriage is necessary for exaltation, it would be reasonable for the LDS to say Jesus must have been married as he is an exalted man.

*Please note I do not believe any of the above nor am I ignorant of much of LDS thought. This is just a question that occurred to me.
I don’t know if I would say that most LDS believe He was married during His life. When I was LDS, the more accurate observation would have been that most were open to the possibility that He was during His life time.

That said, all believed that even if He wasnt in during His mortal life, He eventually would be, because yes, being sealed was a requirement for exaltation.
 
Marie - It sounds as though there is no “official teaching” on this, most LDS do believe Jesus was married.

Since one of the basic tenants of the LDS is that marriage is necessary for exaltation, it would be reasonable for the LDS to say Jesus must have been married as he is an exalted man.

*Please note I do not believe any of the above nor am I ignorant of much of LDS thought. This is just a question that occurred to me.
Knowing the doctrine as I do, this notation of LDS believing the Jesus was married is not correct at all.
 
Knowing the doctrine as I do, this notation of LDS believing the Jesus was married is not correct at all.
Then there is a contradiction in belief of the LDS. For a man to be exalted he must be married. Jesus was not married so how is it he was an exalted man?

We as Catholics know Jesus was never married as there would have been some record of it either through New Testament texts, Scared Tradition or oral accounts being passed on. The lack of mention of marriage is not a good argument to say it was a possibility.

The question remains.
 
Then there is a contradiction in belief of the LDS. For a man to be exalted he must be married. Jesus was not married so how is it he was an exalted man?

We as Catholics know Jesus was never married as there would have been some record of it either through New Testament texts, Scared Tradition or oral accounts being passed on. The lack of mention of marriage is not a good argument to say it was a possibility.

The question remains.
I failed to include in last posting that Jesus Christ is the son of God, the only prefect being, of whom I do my best to follow. The notation of “exalted man” certainly does not apply to him — further he was not married ---- for those who question that, you can certainly see my church’s official site if that helpful to you.
 
It sounds as though there is no “official teaching” on this, most LDS do believe Jesus was married.
I have interacted with thousands upon thousands of LDS in my 4+ decades on earth. Attended church, Sunday School, LDS seminary, firesides, etc somewhere between one and two thousand times in those years. In all that time, in all those meetings, I could probably number the Mormons I’ve met, who speculated about Christ being married, on one hand. And we’re talking counting fingers here, not like holding sand and counting grains or something like that.

Going to websites where non-LDS folks talk about LDS beliefs, however, you hear about it often, relatively speaking.
 
I have interacted with thousands upon thousands of LDS in my 4+ decades on earth. Attended church, Sunday School, LDS seminary, firesides, etc somewhere between one and two thousand times in those years. In all that time, in all those meetings, I could probably number the Mormons I’ve met, who speculated about Christ being married, on one hand. And we’re talking counting fingers here, not like holding sand and counting grains or something like that.

Going to websites where non-LDS folks talk about LDS beliefs, however, you hear about it often, relatively speaking.
How those you know would say such is beyond me ---- my guess it is something they personally believe.

As I said, this is not official doctrine of the church.
 
How those you know would say such is beyond me ---- my guess it is something they personally believe.

As I said, this is not official doctrine of the church.
You are right, there is no official doctrine on the issue.

The link I supplied is from FairMormon and they are a well known LDS apologist site. They do a fair and just break down of the matter, including those early LDS leaders who espoused the idea that He was.
 
Since we have determined Jesus being married is not a doctrine of the LDS nor many LDS believe he was then how do the LDS explain the need for marriage to be exalted if Jesus was exalted without being married.

I’m not here to debate whether Jesus was married, I know he wasn’t, or how many LDS do or do not believe he was married. My question remains if a man must be married to be exalted, how is it explained Jesus was exalted without being married?
 
Since we have determined Jesus being married is not a doctrine of the LDS nor many LDS believe he was then how do the LDS explain the need for marriage to be exalted if Jesus was exalted without being married.

I’m not here to debate whether Jesus was married, I know he wasn’t, or how many LDS do or do not believe he was married. My question remains if a man must be married to be exalted, how is it explained Jesus was exalted without being married?
He is the head of the church — the Church of Jesus Christ, from my point of view he wants us to be baptized in his church ----- marriage and family life Latter Day Saints and Catholics have the better understanding and importance versus the secular side that can believe that marriage between a man and woman and family life thereafter is not important at all.
 
Since we have determined Jesus being married is not a doctrine of the LDS nor many LDS believe he was then how do the LDS explain the need for marriage to be exalted if Jesus was exalted without being married.

I’m not here to debate whether Jesus was married, I know he wasn’t, or how many LDS do or do not believe he was married. My question remains if a man must be married to be exalted, how is it explained Jesus was exalted without being married?
Horton, it comes from the Mormon scriptures known as the Doctrine and Covenants, specifically sec 132

lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/132

Based on D&C 132, it can be extrapolated that yes, Jesus would need to be enter into the “New and Everlasting covenant” (Ie marriage for all eternity)

The Doctrine and Covenants are a Mormon canon of scripture that Mormons believe God gave to Joseph Smith. It falls under the “continuing revelation” beliefs Mormons hold to that their leaders (believed to be prophets seers and revelators and sustained as such by the membership) continue to get from God.
 
Many Mormons I have talked to believe or did believe that the marriage in Cana was in fact Jesus’ wedding. I don’t think it is official doctrine but maybe some uneducated teaching on behalf of some lds bishops.
 
The notation of “exalted man” certainly does not apply to him
Are you sure?
— further he was not married ---- for those who question that, you can certainly see my church’s official site if that helpful to you.
Well, it’s one of the teachings that has changed. If there were such a thing as an official LDS website in the late 20th century, it would have explained that polygamous marriages were required for exaltation, and Jesus obeyed this principle as Mormons are called to…as Brigham Young taught.

The LDS teaching has changed and the official LDS websites reflect those changes (of course).
 
I have interacted with thousands upon thousands of LDS in my 4+ decades on earth. Attended church, Sunday School, LDS seminary, firesides, etc somewhere between one and two thousand times in those years. In all that time, in all those meetings, I could probably number the Mormons I’ve met, who speculated about Christ being married, on one hand. And we’re talking counting fingers here, not like holding sand and counting grains or something like that.

Going to websites where non-LDS folks talk about LDS beliefs, however, you hear about it often, relatively speaking.
I left Mormonism 35+ years ago. In my 20+ years as a Mormon, prior to leaving, I was taught more than once, in Sunday School and Seminary, that Jesus was a polygamist. Mary Magdalene being one of his wives. Her anointing Jesus with oil and being present at the Crucifixion was sited as “evidence” of their marital relationship. Also, the wedding at Cana was taught as being one of Jesus’ weddings.

Over the years, I’ve noticed that the younger generation is not taught the same things. This being one of those teachings that was doctrinal, God’s truth, when I was LDS, is now “opinion”.

It’s a good change of direction, in Mormon doctrinal teaching, IMO.

I was also taught that polygamy is required for exaltation (see D&C 132), with teachings of Brigham Young used to back this up. I was always taught, and my parents believe to this day, that marriages in the celestial kingdom will be all polygamous marriages.
 
Are you sure?

Well, it’s one of the teachings that has changed. If there were such a thing as an official LDS website in the late 20th century, it would have explained that polygamous marriages were required for exaltation, and Jesus obeyed this principle as Mormons are called to…as Brigham Young taught.

The LDS teaching has changed and the official LDS websites reflect those changes (of course).
If some church members had those views — those views are their views only ---- they are not the official view or doctrine of the church.
 
If some church members had those views — those views are their views only ---- they are not the official view or doctrine of the church.
The official view and doctrine of the LDS Church has changed. What was once taught as God’s truth, is now opinion. Some of what you believe today, as God’s truth, will be opinion 30 years from now.

Certainly, you don’t believe that the Saints in the late 20th century, listening to their prophet and general authorities teaching’s thought, “nice opinion”? Do you do that now, when you are listening to general conference? If so, what has been taught at the last general conference, do you view as opinion?

It’s ok, I get it. What is doctrine for a Mormon is what is taught today. Ever fluid doctrine is a Good Thing in Mormonism.

For myself, it’s like trying to walk across 10 miles of sand dunes in 100 degree heat. Just something I don’t want to deal with, and I truly wish you luck in dealing with it yourself.
 
The official view and doctrine of the LDS Church has changed. What was once taught as God’s truth, is now opinion. Some of what you believe today, as God’s truth, will be opinion 30 years from now.

Certainly, you don’t believe that the Saints in the late 20th century, listening to their prophet and general authorities teaching’s thought, “nice opinion”? Do you do that now, when you are listening to general conference?

It’s ok, I get it. What is doctrine for a Mormon is what is taught today. Ever fluid doctrine is a Good Thing in Mormonism.

For myself, it’s like trying to walk across a sand dune in 100 degree heat. Just something I don’t want to deal with, and I truly wish you luck in dealing with it yourself.
The church’s doctrine regarding this has been the same always ---- I do not know if your understanding is as I suspect — the words of a few ------

The church has been consistent in my membership regarding this and so 30 years it will be same as now.
 
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