Jesus is absurd!

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Has anybody here ever felt these moments of extreme doubt? I love my Catholic faith and I love Christ, but sometimes these thoughts will spontaneously pop up in my mind. They’re only there for a minute or so, but are really depressing.

Usually they’re about how absurd my whole belief is. How illogical a personal creator is or how blatantly mythical the Bible is (I do not believe in any of these strange thoughts btw). I hate these thoughts. Sometimes when I try to combat them with my plethora of theological knowledge the thoughts begin to fight back and I can get into tiny arguments with myself.

These thoughts lead me into tiny periods of dryness that last anywhere from a minute to a couple of hours. This doesn’t happen often, but I notice that I think like this every few weeks or so, and it’s becoming bothersome.
 
This happens to everybody, so you are not alone. I understand that it’s depressing, I get like this too. But, whenever these thoughts enter my head, I pray to God and that always helps!🙂
 
YosefYosep said:
Has anybody here ever felt these moments of extreme doubt? I love my Catholic faith and I love Christ, but sometimes these thoughts will spontaneously pop up in my mind. They’re only there for a minute or so, but are really depressing.

Usually they’re about how absurd my whole belief is. How illogical a personal creator is or how blatantly mythical the Bible is (I do not believe in any of these strange thoughts btw). I hate these thoughts. Sometimes when I try to combat them with my plethora of theological knowledge the thoughts begin to fight back and I can get into tiny arguments with myself.

These thoughts lead me into tiny periods of dryness that last anywhere from a minute to a couple of hours. This doesn’t happen often, but I notice that I think like this every few weeks or so, and it’s becoming bothersome.
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Satan is an evil genius, the more it bothers you the worse it will get. i have those doubts intrude my brain usually when i am in the middle of the Rosary, i immediately pray the St. Michael prayer when they happen and personalize to include the demons giving spontaneous doubts to be cast into hell. it usually helps…
 
These are darts from the enemy, he throws them even if the are outrageously absurd.

Battle against Evil. Ephesians 6:10* Finally, draw your strength from the Lord and from his mighty power. 11Put on the armor of God so that you may be able to stand firm against the tactics of the devil. 12For our struggle is not with flesh and blood but with the principalities, with the powers, with the world rulers of this present darkness, with the evil spirits in the heavens. 13Therefore, put on the armor of God, that you may be able to resist on the evil day and, having done everything, to hold your ground. 14So stand fast with your loins girded in truth, clothed with righteousness as a breastplate, 15and your feet shod in readiness for the gospel of peace. 16In all circumstances, **hold faith as a shield, to quench all [the] flaming arrows of the evil one. **17And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18With all prayer and supplication, pray at every opportunity in the Spirit. To that end, be watchful with all perseverance and supplication for all the holy ones

23Peace be to the brothers, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 24Grace be with all who love our Lord Jesus Christ in immortality

copiosa.org/spirituality/spiritual_combat.htm

Peace
 
I have had that happen very rarely (thank God). I would venture that they are not YOUR thoughts, Satan has many tactics to try to draw us into sin (which simply is a turning away from God), whether it be outright temptations to do something wrong or put “little thoughts” into our heads that question our faith, to list a few. If you are not already doing so, I would suggest that you add the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel into your daily prayers as well as the Rosary and Chaplet of St. Michael. This combination has always worked wonders for me and when I practice these devotionals faithfully, it has become ludicrously easy to immediately recognize temptations/attacks for what they are and also to ignore them.

Hope this helps.

pax vobiscum
 
YosefYosep said:
Has anybody here ever felt these moments of extreme doubt? I love my Catholic faith and I love Christ, but sometimes these thoughts will spontaneously pop up in my mind. They’re only there for a minute or so, but are really depressing.

Usually they’re about how absurd my whole belief is. How illogical a personal creator is or how blatantly mythical the Bible is (I do not believe in any of these strange thoughts btw). I hate these thoughts. Sometimes when I try to combat them with my plethora of theological knowledge the thoughts begin to fight back and I can get into tiny arguments with myself.

These thoughts lead me into tiny periods of dryness that last anywhere from a minute to a couple of hours. This doesn’t happen often, but I notice that I think like this every few weeks or so, and it’s becoming bothersome.
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I definitely recommend praying the Saint Michael prayer whenever these thoughts enter your mind. Saint Michael the Archangel,
Defend us in battle,
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host,
Cast into Hell Satan, and all the evil spirits,
Who prowl about the world,
Seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.
 
I think the best remedy to temptations to doubt is to make acts of faith in response. Arguing with a little voice of doubt in your head doesn’t end well, usually.
 
It happens and it really is bothersome. I remember once when I was at mass I suddenly felt like I was pulled out of it and watching a theatrical performance. It all seemed so stupid and I wondered if all of us there was just plain crazy. It was awful. But the feeling left me, I made an act of faith and said the creed and felt such wonderful peace after communion.
 
Our deacon says to pray, “I believe, help me with my unbelief.” This is from his homily on Thomas a couple of weeks ago.
 
Thank you for posting this! I have struggled with this a lot recently. I love Jesus with all my heart and those thoughts and feelings are painful to experience.

I’m glad to know I’m not alone. I will pray for your consolation.
 
1love said:
Thank you for posting this! I have struggled with this a lot recently. I love Jesus with all my heart and those thoughts and feelings are painful to experience.

I’m glad to know I’m not alone. I will pray for your consolation.
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Thank you so much! I will pray for you as well. These are some really nice responses. I will take all of them into consideration.
 
YosefYosep said:
Has anybody here ever felt these moments of extreme doubt? I love my Catholic faith and I love Christ, but sometimes these thoughts will spontaneously pop up in my mind. They’re only there for a minute or so, but are really depressing.

Usually they’re about how absurd my whole belief is. How illogical a personal creator is or how blatantly mythical the Bible is (I do not believe in any of these strange thoughts btw). I hate these thoughts. Sometimes when I try to combat them with my plethora of theological knowledge the thoughts begin to fight back and I can get into tiny arguments with myself.

These thoughts lead me into tiny periods of dryness that last anywhere from a minute to a couple of hours. This doesn’t happen often, but I notice that I think like this every few weeks or so, and it’s becoming bothersome.
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That’s because Christ, at his best, can seem absurd! He was meant to challenge human sensibilities in every way, not conform to them. He is not a teddy bear or a cheerleader. Christ could continually amaze even those who knew Him for a long time, let alone those who have not seen but have believed. Take the doubt as a challenge to get to know Him further.
 
I got this doubt too.

The more closer you to GoD, Satan will do everything to take you away from him.

I had this doubt keeping my head but I keep praying to him. There are times that i want to convert to atheism because of their free will but my heart telling me not because i got scared to GoD keep telling me to obey him and i saw his movements using my friends to comfort me that is why i love jesus christ/GoD.
 
YosefYosep said:
Has anybody here ever felt these moments of extreme doubt? I love my Catholic faith and I love Christ, but sometimes these thoughts will spontaneously pop up in my mind. They’re only there for a minute or so, but are really depressing.

Usually they’re about how absurd my whole belief is. How illogical a personal creator is or how blatantly mythical the Bible is (I do not believe in any of these strange thoughts btw). I hate these thoughts. Sometimes when I try to combat them with my plethora of theological knowledge the thoughts begin to fight back and I can get into tiny arguments with myself.

These thoughts lead me into tiny periods of dryness that last anywhere from a minute to a couple of hours. This doesn’t happen often, but I notice that I think like this every few weeks or so, and it’s becoming bothersome.
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As an engineer, I don’t necessarily need Absolute Truth for my purposes. Let the scientists figure that out. I take what I do learn from them, and model any given situation in a way that I can manipulate that model and design something that works to the specifications I need. Like I don’t always need to understand the atomic physics involved in a switch, in order to implement one in the design. (Yes, once I had to concern myself with the atomic physics view of what was going on in a switch at the precise moment it made contact, but that was once in a 20 year career.)

So I took an engineering approach. Given that we have no direct knowledge of Jesus other than a) what the Church tells us, and b) what God directly inspires us with, until such time as I’m inspired (btw inspired means “breathed into”) I have to work with my uncertainty. How am I to go about my life, when I can’t seem to stay of the same conviction over a period of time, on the very basis of my life? A cost/benefit analysis showed that I would receive approximately the same benefits, as far as I could figure, in terms of having a great life, if I followed Jesus without regard to a definite knowledge of whether He is real or fictional. Actually “mythical” is not necessary the wrong term, because “myth” does not imply it is false. A myth can be true or false. I say go with it, learn what can be learned, and over a period of time, maybe you will be more inspired as you conform your life to Jesus’s command such as loving others including enemies, and being the one who serves. Until then, you’re not losing out because the Christian way of life IMO is one that brings joy even if I don’t fully understand it or even in periods of dryness or doubt like you’re describing.

Maybe this sounds like, “fake it till you make it.” If it does, maybe that’s ok. Who is going to tell you that just because you’re having periods of doubt, that you should quit acting with the love that Jesus speaks of because of that doubt? Not even an atheist could make that argument, I would think. 😉

Alan
 
telement10 said:
I got this doubt too.

The more closer you to GoD, Satan will do everything to take you away from him.

I had this doubt keeping my head but I keep praying to him. There are times that i want to convert to atheism because of their free will but my heart telling me not because i got scared to GoD keep telling me to obey him and i saw his movements using my friends to comfort me that is why i love jesus christ/GoD.
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I can honestly say as retired atheist and now a Catholic, Catholics have just as much free will as any atheist out there. We are free to choose, free to love, free to hate, free to be silent, free to run our mouth’s… you get my drift. I view free will as a weapon. We can use it to choose good for ourselves, and to help others in need, or we can use it to turn our backs on God and our neighbors.
 
You are not alone, and have been given some good advice here. I too get these types of feelings, sometimes all too often I’m afraid. I’m just repeating thoughts here, but frankly, at times, I find the whole idea of a God\creator, heaven, hell, and everything tied to it more fantastic than the most over the top sci-fi fiction. I’ve asked myself many times why all this is necessary. Why we didn’t just evolve, happen to be smarter than any other species, and die with no afterlife at all. Heck, I don’t remember the time BEFORE being born, so why can’t I just drop out of existence and have it be the same?

What do I do when that happens? I start praying the Rosary even harder. What happens then? At times, the thoughts come on even stronger, but I keep praying. Eventually, things clear up again, and I pray some more. 😊
 
Schatzl said:
This happens to everybody, so you are not alone. I understand that it’s depressing, I get like this too. But, whenever these thoughts enter my head, I pray to God and that always helps!🙂
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Speak for yourself, i never had such a thought and i am sure i am not the only one. If anything, i find myself absurd for not listening his teaching BUT very grateful for all the wonderful gift that he left us such , his Mother, the Eucharist and Reconciliation.

Blessings and love!
 
I agree that Satan tries his best to deter us from worshiping the Lord. He said he was going to get the ones that love the Lord and take them down with him. I see that. Satan lost the battle but still trying to win the war…with us! IE: Christians.
 
Chantal25 said:
Speak for yourself, i never had such a thought and i am sure i am not the only one. If anything, i find myself absurd for not listening his teaching BUT very grateful for all the wonderful gift that he left us such , his Mother, the Eucharist and Reconciliation.

Blessings and love!
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then you give hope to those of us who do get bombarded by satan’s persistence.
 
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