Jesus is absurd!

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dee_burk said:
then you give hope to those of us who do get bombarded by satan’s persistence.
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I have my other weakness and in no means that i am not a sinner or not tempted, i just don’t think such a thing about Jesus. It isn’t a just statement to say that all of us at some point thought this way. I had question the bible if it was true (old testament) because it didn’t reflect how i perceived God at the time but never i have questioned Jesus teaching, i am sure that i am not the only one.

Maybe the one that feel this way, find it challenging to live his way, such forgiving others that hurt us etc…which is completely human and understandable. He is the one that give me strength to be able to do such a thing, i wasn’t able to before but now it is far easier.

Jesus is the one to give you hope, peace and love!
 
I’d be depressed too, if the reality were one without a personal God because that reality is truly absurd. Read Camus some time…
 
Chantal25 said:
I have my other weakness and in no means that i am not a sinner or not tempted, i just don’t think such a thing about Jesus. It isn’t a just statement to say that all of us at some point thought this way. I had question the bible if it was true (old testament) because it didn’t reflect how i perceived God at the time but never i have questioned Jesus teaching, i am sure that i am not the only one.

Maybe the one that feel this way, find it challenging to live his way, such forgiving others that hurt us etc…which is completely human and understandable. He is the one that give me strength to be able to do such a thing, i wasn’t able to before but now it is far easier.

Jesus is the one to give you hope, peace and love!
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Yes He is the One that gives us every good thing if we are open to it!
 
Satan attacks everyone differently, any blow he can get. Faith is overcoming his attacks and not letting him deter us in our quest for relationship with our Lord.

Coming from a protestant background, he likes to attack me on things that are inherently Catholic, like the Holy Mother when i am praying the Rosary. I have actually stopped and apologized to Mary and Jesus for having a disturbing thought/doubt creep in from out of nowhere.😦
 
((((Dee Burk)))), first i want to congratulate you for your conversion. I am so thrill and happy for you.

Speaking on temptation, as said, i have my own weakness and i am looking forward for the day, that i won’t have to apologize to God for those same sin and fault.

I guess we are human and weak but Jesus makes us strong. I find that each time, i go to confession, it helps me so so much.

In sister Faustina diary, Jesus said that he values our effort more then the success. So as long we keep on trying.

Blessing to you and you are doing wonderful!
 
dee_burk said:
Satan attacks everyone differently, any blow he can get. Faith is overcoming his attacks and not letting him deter us in our quest for relationship with our Lord.

Coming from a protestant background, he likes to attack me on things that are inherently Catholic, like the Holy Mother when i am praying the Rosary. I have actually stopped and apologized to Mary and Jesus for having a disturbing thought/doubt creep in from out of nowhere.😦
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When the “thought creeps in from out of nowhere” that isn’t you, it is a temptation from the evil one. The evil one hates the Blessed Mother because she is full of grace.

Just ignore the unwelcome thought, say the name of Jesus, and go on with the prayer. The evil one may come back with a vengeance, but just keep on the armor of Christ. This is why God allows temptations…so we can develop spiritual “muscle”. The evil one is on a leash. The Lord and his Mother are at your side. 🙂
 
I use to get that when I first converted to Protestant Christianity. I think its the enemy putting those thoughts in my mind.
 
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Yosef, when this occurs on the odd occasion, (it is satans thoughts not mine), during The Holy Rosary, I bathe satan in the Victorious Blood of Jesus Victorious Resurrection over satan, commanding it to leave my thoughts and the thoughts of all sinners, now and for eternity while continuing The Holy Rosary; takes a bit of concentration to do both at the same time!

As for my belief, trust and confidence in Jesus, God, The Holy Spirit and Mother Mary; they know, that I know, they are always there! Too many many Graces, Blessings and Prayers answered along with His Holy Loving Divine intervention over 50 years in hundreds of ways! I picture Jesus and His Stations of The Cross and Our Lady Mary Mother of Jesus (as Mother Mary requests) when praying The Holy Rosary which immediately gets rid of satan’s attempts to cause doubts.
 
Yes pray for an increase in faith.
The nearer you get to God the more you are tempted as St Padre Pio explained.
If you have doubts about a creator look around you, look up at the stars, the creator who made all that, also made you.

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YosefYosep said:
Has anybody here ever felt these moments of extreme doubt? I love my Catholic faith and I love Christ, but sometimes these thoughts will spontaneously pop up in my mind. They’re only there for a minute or so, but are really depressing.

Usually they’re about how absurd my whole belief is. How illogical a personal creator is or how blatantly mythical the Bible is (I do not believe in any of these strange thoughts btw). I hate these thoughts. Sometimes when I try to combat them with my plethora of theological knowledge the thoughts begin to fight back and I can get into tiny arguments with myself.

These thoughts lead me into tiny periods of dryness that last anywhere from a minute to a couple of hours. This doesn’t happen often, but I notice that I think like this every few weeks or so, and it’s becoming bothersome.
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I have thought that way a lot myself. One thing that has recently researched was Fatima. I felt I couldn’t trust secondary sources, so I looked a little deeper. There is a reporter named Avelino de Almeida who initially wrote an article about the apparitions for a cynical standpoint, but who later wrote an article that seemed to back up the apparitions. I know plenty of cynical people, and am one myself, and they don’t change their tune easily. So I think something happened there that is beyond explaination.

However, one matter of concern is that the people who feel most strongly about Fatima seem to be people with ulta-traditionalist leanings or straightforward sedevacantists. The thought that the message of Fatima might be in some way similar to the message of Lefebvre and the SSPX has kept me up many a night - because if they are right, I think I might rather to gladly to Hell than keep such people company in Heaven.

But anyway, even with that, I had to be in the right frame of mind for it to work on me. I would suggest reading Chesterton’s Orthodoxy. Oh, and I can imagine many of the more Puritanical posters will gang up on me for this, but read the classics of Greek and Roman mythology. People who have thoughts like “Oh, what if this is just a myth!” have the wrong idea, they don’t understand the beauty of mythopoeia and the way it shades into the Truth. Platonist all of them, and in the worst sense - and there are plenty who call themselves Christians who would say such a thing. How misguided they are!
 
Sadly, extremists use Fatima to back up their errors.

I find that by keeping my eyes on what the Catholic Church teaches us with regard to faith and morals, keeps me from swerving this way and that.

Over 60 years ago, it was through the Rosary, promoted by Our Lady of Fatima, that put me on track to look to the Church, our Mother, for the fullness of truth.

May the Lord help us all!
 
Blatantly mythical??? I really don’t think the Bible compares with other myths. It is full of accounts, genealogies, and names of real people and events. Not like the myths from around the world which are more or less stories that are meant to teach a lesson.

And how exactly is Jesus absurd?
 
CompSciGuy said:
Blatantly mythical??? I really don’t think the Bible compares with other myths. It is full of accounts, genealogies, and names of real people and events. Not like the myths from around the world which are more or less stories that are meant to teach a lesson.
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I think this quote from Lewis explains both what the thread starter is saying and why it is a needless worry:

*“Now the story of Christ is simply a true myth: a myth working on us the same way as the others, but with this tremendous difference that it really happened: and one must be content to accept it in the same way, remembering that it is God’s myth where the others are men’s myths: i.e., the Pagan stories are God expressing Himself through the minds of poets, using such images as He found there, while Christianity is God expressing Himself through what we call "real things.” *
 
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