"JESUS IS LORD"/ "JESUS IS GOD" controversy

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It is incorrect to say Jesus was a “manifestation” of God. By trinitarian theology he is God.
 
We are mere mortals everybody has own right of seeing Son of a God and feel almighty God as he feels and wants.
Respect to apologetics,etc whom i agree admire.
 
The holy spirit gave us the Bible. Jesus gave the spirit. My point was not that the Bible is not inspired, but that it is not the sole authority.
 
Kts1816 said:
God in a human nature better understanable by us…
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Jesus is NOT merely a “representation” of God, he IS God who took on human nature.

He did that not merely so we could understand him better, but also to redeem all of humanity from sin and death.
 
Sleep well!

I understand what you meant. I was only trying to clarify that words can be taken in different ways.
 
HarryStotle said:
Jesus is NOT merely a “representation” of God, he IS God who took on human nature.

He did that not merely so we could understand him
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AS LONG AS JESUS IS SAID TO BE GOD, WITHOUT BEING IN HUMAN FORM, THEN HE COULD HAVE DONE ALL THAT BY ORDINARY WORLD, HE DOES NOT NEED TO FIRST TAKE UP HUMAN NATURE TO BELIEVE HIIM, THAT IS ANOTHER CONFUSION. HE COULD HAVE JUST SHOWN HIMSELF IN THE SKY ONE DAY
 
purestmoney said:
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HarryStotle:
Jesus is NOT merely a “representation” of God, he IS God who took on human nature.

He did that not merely so we could understand him
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AS LONG AS JESUS IS SAID TO BE GOD, WITHOUT BEING IN HUMAN FORM, THEN HE COULD HAVE DONE ALL THAT BY ORDINARY WORLD, HE DOES NOT NEED TO FIRST TAKE UP HUMAN NATURE TO BELIEVE HIIM, THAT IS ANOTHER CONFUSION. HE COULD HAVE JUST SHOWN HIMSELF IN THE SKY ONE DAY
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It isn’t clear to me that we humans would know what God could or could not do, or why he chose to do things in the way that he did.

Perhaps he didn’t HAVE TO become human, but he did. That is all we can be certain of. Why exactly he did take on human nature to redeem humankind won’t be known until he reveals that. Until then we can’t say a whole lot.

WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?
 
Typing in ALL-CAPS is widely recognized as SHOUTING in all social media platforms.

So you were disturbing the neighbors 😴 in the next thread over. Try to keep it down just a bit. 😉
 
If he didn’t have human nature he wouldn’t be who he is…

Are you sure you are playing for the right team?

This is older than all creation…

Imma side w Michael.
 
Actually yes Thomas did say “you are my Lord and my God” that is what “My Lord and my God” means. Are you really attempting to imply that Thomas said caricatures of “Holy Moly”, “for the love of God”, “what the Dickens”?
 
Jesus Christ is a “manifestation” of God, AND God. Manifestation means by definition “to be made explicitly visible”, it does not mean implicitly visible, as is inherent in the non-Trinitarian sects. So there were a time you could not see God, then there was Jesus Christ, and you could see God, God became “manifest”.

Therefore Jesus Christ is a “manifestation” of God (to us).
 
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oh, that is funny anyway, exclamation mark is what i consider are shouting because that is what it is meant to be not what people are tunning it into and this is part of what we are discussing about this same issue of “Jesus is God”
 
Darryl_B said:
Thomas did say “you are my Lord and my God” that is what “My Lord and my God” means. Are you really attempting to imply that Thomas said caricatures of “Holy Moly”, “for the love of God”, “what the Dickens”?
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If it is because Thomas said to Jesus You are my Lord and my God" that made HIM God, that means there are many GODS in the world such are the judges and the Bosses. Because a servant of anyone sees his master and LORD/GOD
 
No it doesn’t mean that, not in the Jewish context of 1st Century Palestine, in fact not even to the contemporary Jewish.
 
Darryl_B said:
Actually yes Thomas did say “you are my Lord and my God” that is what “My Lord and my God” means. Are you really attempting to imply that Thomas said caricatures of “Holy Moly”, “for the love of God”, “what the Dickens”?
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No. You misunderstood me. Thomas is saying that by looking at Jesus he is seeing God the father, because Jesus is the image of God.

He is not saying “You, Jesus, are my Lord and my God”. He is saying "My Lord (to Jesus) and my God (seeing God through he image of God, Jesus).
 
Which would therefore just leave Thomas’ words being directed to Jesus Christ explicitly. Do you look through Jesus Christ, or do you look at Jesus Christ I guess is the difference. I know what Thomas was doing at the time.

I guess it depends for yourself, on your definition of “image”, as to whether you permit Thomas to maintain his confession.
 
Jesus said that if you see him, you see the Father. Thomas looked at Jesus and as a result saw the father. It’s that simple.
 
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