– Clement, Oliver. Conversations with Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I. 207.
I should clarify that Muslims who write about the Passion, in poetic form, are not necessarily heretics, since they are not making any theological conclusions necessarily.
Non-sense; This is not based on respect, but rather complete disrespect; Moslems choose to deny the sacrifice of Jesus Christ as atonement for our sins. There is plenty of historical and scientific evidence to teach us that Jesus Christ was sacrificed on Friday 3rd April 33AD. They just refuse to search.
Maybe then they’ll stop creating crosses for themselves to carry, and start to appreciate the Cross that Jesus had to endure. Maybe they’ll become peacemakers. But when there are radical sheiks who preach otherwise, it may be a while before they start “to sense the mystery of the Cross”.
Immense respect for God? God would not allow His Messiah, one of His messengers to be humiliated in the hands of a bunch of unbelievers & be murdered by them. This is why the same God in the Quran took over Himself the duty of killing His servant to take him from this world of sinners!
A sinful traitor was substituted for the Messiah & all of the Jews were miraculously prevented from knowing the fact that the person they insulted, scourged, and nailed to the cross was someone else than the true Messiah. What kind of respect is this? The Messiah’s appearance could not be saved from humiliation & defeat due to his equation with a sinful man being punished by Allah. More, Allah’s holy prophet was saved by a miracle, but the very miracle compelled the enemy to believe otherwise! LOLOrthodox Islam proscribes that the ideal society is one where non-Muslims are classified as second-class citizens, and leaving Islam is punishable by death, among other things.
No verse in the Quran supports the presumption that Roman soldiers mistakenly arrested someone else than Jesus. This is basically because Mohammed’s scripture does not relate the incident of crucifixion in the form of a narrative. The only verse denying Jesus’ passion in the Quran can do nothing than imply substitution & emphasize Jesus’ assumption to Allah’s presence. All the other things are ignored, which but motivates Muslim scholars to draw contradictory as well as fantastic stories from the incomplete & inadequate picture of the Passion
My dear Kin in God/Allah
You must have read a **personal interpretation **of the verse in the Quran, not the verse itself! Otherwise, we can easily say that the Quran was distorted.
Different versions of the Bible use different words/phrases to relate the same literary form, but the thing you are claiming now is beyond a variation stemming from translation. Above all, be sure that **not even **the *Gospel of Barnabas *supports the theory you quoted.
your info is taken from “submitters”. These are considered heretics by mainstrean Muslims. Besides, why would Allah refute the Jews if they can’t even see an “empty body”? Allah telling Jews hey you did not crucify Jesus because it was his empty body doesn’t make sense because Jews couldn’t have possibly seen an empty body but a normal body. None of the explanations given by the best scholars endorses this view which proves that the Basilidean Gnostic teachings were the only one known to Muslims and to Muhammad.
Ok, that makes sense. I had only ever heard of the “substitution” theory, until I saw this website. Still, I believe that the text I quoted of the quran is correct–so far as it is translated into English. I still don’t feel that substitution is plainly worded in the text, only implied. I don’t know if there are other suras which would support the substitution theory.
no this is the only verse in the Quran about the crucifixion.
Wow, very interesting. So is there any kind of record of Muhammad interacting with this group? Had they spread to his area? Thanks for the info.
Why do you address him with (pbuh) after his name? This is a Moslem way of doing so.