Jesus laughs

[freesoulhope]

Benedictus:

No. In fact, the Church teaches that laughing can be a sin.

Sorry for Qouting you and adding to an already long list of anwsers, but i feel compelled to add. Please dont take Offense.

Laughthing is a sin, Only if we laugh at sinfull things, at peoples pain and suffering. Ridicule is wrong :tsktsk: , however, laughter is created by God :dancing: .

I think Jesus did luagth because he was human, its just not important to are salvation that it should be written down in the bible. We also know that Jesus was a carpenter, but we dont have a list of all the things that he built, but this doesn’t mean he didnt build things. For all we know he might have called himself a carpenter, just as a symbolic representation to the fact that all things were created through the word of God (Jesus being the word). In actuall fact this is why Jesus took the Job of carpentry. ( please correct this if its wrong)

The guy that said he wont be a Christian because Jesus did not luagh, is a slave to the laughter that comes from ridcule, and is looking for any excuse not to believe. I suspect that this also comes from the ignorant idea that, being a christian, is to live a boring and meanigless life. As if Christians dont organise partys and go out, and have a laugh. its just that we are imaginitive anough not to laugh at eachother through ridicule.

people put down the Christian life style because it makes people feel bad about the sins that they enjoy doing, so they feel guilty, and this makes them feel unhappy, they lose thier power.

This is because there minds are conditioned to find joy in peoples pain. This kind of luaghter, comes from a will to dominate and look down on people, to feel like somebody specail.

For example, a guy might see an overweight human being, walking down the street, and seek to ridicule his Gluttony, in order to cuase laughter and shame. People ridicule because they feel worthless in themselfs, and find happiness and strength by standing on the unhappiness and downfall of Others, rather then lifting people up, and serving God.

They are basically saying.

" look at that guy, hes more worthless then me, ha ha ha".

I call them parasites, because they live off of the destruction and embarrasment of peoples souls, and lift them selves up on the enjoyment of thier ridicule.Some people seek popularity and joy by pleasing the sinfull lusts of are hearts. They promote the image of the beast because of the power they gain, rather then the cross of sacrafice.

Jesus on the other hand found joy in lifting people up through love. So it may be that he didn’t laugh at what we think is funny, rather he made jokes that only people filled with the holy spirit would find Understand. Jesus did not seek popularity.

 

[freesoulhope]

Mike Stallard:

Emphatically!
And now a confession. It wasn’t actually the Daily Telegraph - it was the Spectator. This week (it is a weekly) a letter “proved” Jesus’ sense of humour by referring to him calling Peter, of all people, “the Rock”.
I liked the person above who referred to the Sons of Thunder!
Marvellous!

Now you tell me

 

[freesoulhope]

freesoulhope:

Sorry for Qouting you and adding to an already long list of anwsers, but i feel compelled to add. Please dont take Offense.

The guy that said he wont be a Christian because Jesus did not luagh, is a slave to the laughter that comes from ridcule, and is looking for any excuse not to believe. .

Poor me and my judging heart, i just jumped right in there .

“How dare i try to take the boat out of your eyes, when ive Got the Titanic, in my own!”

 

[Mike_Stallard]

freesoulhope:

Sorry for Qouting you and adding to an already long list of anwsers, but i feel compelled to add. Please dont take Offense.

Laughthing is a sin, Only if we laugh at sinfull things, at peoples pain and suffering. Ridicule is wrong :tsktsk: , however, laughter is created by God :dancing: .

I think Jesus did luagth because he was human, its just not important to are salvation that it should be written down in the bible. We also know that Jesus was a carpenter, but we dont have a list of all the things that he built, but this doesn’t mean he didnt build things. For all we know he might have called himself a carpenter, just as a symbolic representation to the fact that all things were created through the word of God (Jesus being the word). In actuall fact this is why Jesus took the Job of carpentry. ( please correct this if its wrong)

The guy that said he wont be a Christian because Jesus did not luagh, is a slave to the laughter that comes from ridcule, and is looking for any excuse not to believe. I suspect that this also comes from the ignorant idea that, being a christian, is to live a boring and meanigless life. As if Christians dont organise partys and go out, and have a laugh. its just that we are imaginitive anough not to laugh at eachother through ridicule.

people put down the Christian life style because it makes people feel bad about the sins that they enjoy doing, so they feel guilty, and this makes them feel unhappy, they lose thier power.

This is because there minds are conditioned to find joy in peoples pain. This kind of luaghter, comes from a will to dominate and look down on people, to feel like somebody specail.

For example, a guy might see an overweight human being, walking down the street, and seek to ridicule his Gluttony, in order to cuase laughter and shame. People ridicule because they feel worthless in themselfs, and find happiness and strength by standing on the unhappiness and downfall of Others, rather then lifting people up, and serving God.

They are basically saying.

" look at that guy, hes more worthless then me, ha ha ha".

I call them parasites, because they live off of the destruction and embarrasment of peoples souls, and lift them selves up on the enjoyment of thier ridicule.Some people seek popularity and joy by pleasing the sinfull lusts of are hearts. They promote the image of the beast because of the power they gain, rather then the cross of sacrafice.

Jesus on the other hand found joy in lifting people up through love. So it may be that he didn’t laugh at what we think is funny, rather he made jokes that only people filled with the holy spirit would find Understand. Jesus did not seek popularity.

I’m not happy about this.
Obviously nobody (in their right mind) believes in laughing AT people! (Actually one of the rare uses of the word “laughter” comes from the people who "laughed AT Jesus when they were about to crucify him.)
I am unhappy, though for two reasons.
First of all, laughter is so diverse that I am afraid to classify it because that way you can kill it. It is a very precious delicate little bird is humour…
Secondly, I must admit that there has always been a strain of thought which says “Too much laughter weakens a man.” I hope that this is what the person who posted the bit about laughter being a sin was talking about.
In our Western tradition, however, laughter has always been of the essence - Erasmus, Shakespeare, Falstaff, Music Hall and so on.
In the New Testament, I am now seeing things, which before I had dismissed, as very important! It is, I am sure, a step forward.

 

[freesoulhope]

Mike Stallard:

I’m not happy about this.
Obviously nobody (in their right mind) believes in laughing AT people! (Actually one of the rare uses of the word “laughter” comes from the people who "laughed AT Jesus when they were about to crucify him.)
I am unhappy, though for two reasons.
First of all, laughter is so diverse that I am afraid to classify it because that way you can kill it. It is a very precious delicate little bird is humour…
Secondly, I must admit that there has always been a strain of thought which says “Too much laughter weakens a man.” I hope that this is what the person who posted the bit about laughter being a sin was talking about.
In our Western tradition, however, laughter has always been of the essence - Erasmus, Shakespeare, Falstaff, Music Hall and so on.
In the New Testament, I am now seeing things, which before I had dismissed, as very important! It is, I am sure, a step forward.

Im sorry, what is it that you did not like about my post? give me some feed back.

 

[freesoulhope]

I was talking about ridcule, because the reality is that, people mistake it for Good humor. I know what im talking about, because ive grown up in a culture, where ridicule is common language. Thats a whole lot of people not in thier right minds! We do live in a world of sin, just in case you forgot.

I also went a bit overbourd with my post, it saw it as an opertunity to get my thoughts out there. I think they where a bit to jurdge mental, but i was not acusing anybody of ridicule on this thread.

 

[Mike_Stallard]

freesoulhope:

Im sorry, what is it that you did not like about my post? give me some feed back.

Sorry - I was talking English English!

It was my way of saying that I disagree with you, but in UK it is a very polite way of saying that.
It must have sounded very aggressive - which it was certainly not.
Two countries divided by the same language!
I can only say that I am very sorry!

 

[Rebecca_New]

Lance:

If we aren’t supposed to laugh why does Fr. Max tell a joke after every mass?

Also, wonder if someone is clowning around, like wearing a chicken hat and you laugh at him. This can’t be a sin, can it?

 

[freesoulhope]

Rebecca New:

Also, wonder if someone is clowning around, like wearing a chicken hat and you laugh at him. This can’t be a sin, can it?

Not if he wearing it to make you luagh. But if its something, that embarasses and hurts his feelings, then it isnt very charitible, in light of the reality. But i wouldnt go as far as to say it was a mortal sin, and im not even sure if a major veniel one. I dont think God would be happy though, since it could lead on to a more “looser” atitudes towards hurting peoples feelings.

Would God tell a Joke if he new it would degrade You sprirtually?

Dont worry, i commit sins two, and its very hard not to luagh, when you have been “conditioned” to laugh.

I remember once, when i was in secondary school, We had a teacher that was over weight. One day she fell down the stairs because of it, and every body laughed. And so did I, because we did not jhave the holy spirit in us. Its wrong plain and simple, regardless if its funny or not.

 

[freesoulhope]

You say your preist has a bit of a comedic pesonality, this is Good, there ant nothing wrong with that.

However, … Does he ridicule people? does he degrade people by exposing thier fualts, and making it an Ocasion for laughter. If so then this is obviously wrong, regardless if he is preist. If he is charitable in his thinking, then he will say a joke, that is not at the expence of other peoples suffering, and still make every one luagh . The state of your heart, will determine what you find funny.

 

[mmortal03]

vz71:

Is it possible for an individual to live 30+ years without ever laughing?

Doesn’t sound quite human to me.

Not that I disagree with you, but, using that logic, is it possible for an individual to live 30+ years without ever sinning?

Doesn’t sound quite human to me.

 

[vz71]

mmortal03:

Not that I disagree with you, but, using that logic, is it possible for an individual to live 30+ years without ever sinning?

Doesn’t sound quite human to me.

Perhaps you are right, but I am not certain the logic holds.
We do not always choose to laugh. We do choose to sin.

 

[freesoulhope]

mmortal03:

Not that I disagree with you, but, using that logic, is it possible for an individual to live 30+ years without ever sinning?

Doesn’t sound quite human to me.

What do you mean? are you saying that its human too sin? Or am i missing something…like two eyeballs!

 

[BlindSheep]

Benedictus:

No, I’d say that immoderate doesn’t refer to the subject/object of the laughter. Immoderate, by definition, refers to quantity.

Clearly laughing at someone could be a sin too.

Of course, immoderate eating is a sin too, but that doesn’t mean eating at all is a sin, or that Jesus didn’t eat!
And after all, doing too little of something is immoderate, too.

 

[mmortal03]

freesoulhope:

What do you mean? are you saying that its human too sin? Or am i missing something…like two eyeballs!

Basically, I’m just saying that with Jesus, you can’t necessarily say that just because he was human, that he did everything that humans do. He did not sin. Humans sin. (I know Mary is one other exception to this). Just because he was human, doesn’t mean that he had to have laughed in 30+ years. I’m not saying, however, that he didn’t. He probably did.

 

[freesoulhope]

mmortal03:

Basically, I’m just saying that with Jesus, you can’t necessarily say that just because he was human, that he did everything that humans do. He did not sin. Humans sin. (I know Mary is one other exception to this). Just because he was human, doesn’t mean that he had to have laughed in 30+ years. I’m not saying, however, that he didn’t. He probably did.

Another thing to consider is,… Why is it important that jesus laughed or not. We seem to think that we know what it is to be human. Does one have to laugh out to be happy? Not that laughing is a sin, but i agree with you on the fact, that jesus was the perfect son. He is everything that the father looks for in a son. And if this is the case( which i believe it is) whether or not he laughed becomes a bit…how can i say?..erelevent.

 

[Godfrey]

Alberich:

Sounds like somebody read “The Name of the Rose” and took it wa-a-a-a-a-ay to seriously!

Peace,
Alberich

HAHAHAHA!