Jesus/Mary/Teaching on Mercy Changed?

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Was just reading “the Glories of Mary”. In it St. Alphonsus describes the kingdom of God consisting of two components – justice and mercy.

The saint says that Christ reserved justice for himself, yielding the empire of mercy to His mother. St. Alhonsus also quotes St. Thomas (in his preface to the Canonical Epistles) as saying that "…when the Blessed Virgin conceived the Eternal Word in her womb, and brought him forth, she obtained half of the kingdom of God. So that she is the Queen of Mercy, as Jesus Christ is the King of Justice". Similarly, with other examples he seemingly makes the point that “mercy” is the Marian trait, and “justice” the trait of Christ.

I found this interesting – but I’m wondering about something.

In our now prevalent devotion to the Divine Mercy, St. Faustina points us to a rather different model – the focus of mercy is no longer so much Mary – but Jesus himself(!)

Perhaps there is no contradiction here. Perhaps Jesus and Mary both dispense mercies, and perhaps the “justice” of God is provided for somehow…

But does this not suggest that our Catholic thought and teaching on mercy has evolved over the years?
 
If you continue to read “The Glories of Mary” you will see how Mary acts as a Merciful Queen before Our Lord.

Remember that the Divine Mercy apparitions are not public revelation (Scripture), but private revelation that can be accepted and believed by any Catholic. The same applies to St. Alphonsus’ book.

I agree that Mary is a Merciful figure who holds back God’s Wrath as a plane tree shelters a traveler to the sun (example used in the book). Jesus is merciful for if he wasn’ then He would not have made His Mother the Queen the Mother of Mercy. Jesus is both a Judge of Justice and King of Mercy. Our Lady has no form of justice since she does not judge as Our Lord does, but accepts even the most vilest of sinners under Her mantle.

Even if we have provoked Jesus’ wrath His Mother would beg Him to pardon us.
 
Was just reading “the Glories of Mary”. In it St. Alphonsus describes the kingdom of God consisting of two components – justice and mercy.

The saint says that Christ reserved justice for himself, yielding the empire of mercy to His mother. St. Alhonsus also quotes St. Thomas (in his preface to the Canonical Epistles) as saying that "…when the Blessed Virgin conceived the Eternal Word in her womb, and brought him forth, she obtained half of the kingdom of God. So that she is the Queen of Mercy, as Jesus Christ is the King of Justice". Similarly, with other examples he seemingly makes the point that “mercy” is the Marian trait, and “justice” the trait of Christ.

I found this interesting – but I’m wondering about something.

In our now prevalent devotion to the Divine Mercy, St. Faustina points us to a rather different model – the focus of mercy is no longer so much Mary – but Jesus himself(!)

Perhaps there is no contradiction here. Perhaps Jesus and Mary both dispense mercies, and perhaps the “justice” of God is provided for somehow…

But does this not suggest that our Catholic thought and teaching on mercy has evolved over the years?
No, it does not suggest Catholic thought and teaching has evolved but rather that expressions in preaching, devotional writing, and in popular piety have changed.

The Council Fathers at Vatican II, in the eighth chapter of Lumen Gentium, specifically warned against expressions, by word or by deed, that were not faithful to the mind of the Church when it came to topics under the purview of Mariology. This was an intervention and a restraint long in the making, actually.

It was, frankly, texts like the one you cite which gave rise to that warning from the Magisterium.

There is always a need for theological vigilance,especially in matters of popular piety and related to the maxim: lex orandi, lex credendi.

There are expressions that can be allowed, as a sort of poetic expression or hyperbole. By analogy, a father or a mother can speak of their children as their lives or that they live for their children. But we know it is an expression of their love and dedication for their children…not the strict reality.

We can speak of Mary, in that sense, as “our life, our sweetness, and our hope”…but this is purely a devotional language of hyperbole.

Theologically, hope is a theological virtue with God as the proper and unique object. We hope in God and He is our hope. Similarly, God is Dominum et vivificantem…the Lord and giver of life. God is the one who gave us life and for whom we live and whom “we live and move and have our being.”

It is utterly unsound theologically…indeed theologically preposterous…to portray the Mother of Jesus as more merciful than God who is Mercy.

It is utterly unsound theologically…indeed theologically preposterous…to put in opposition justice and mercy, such that certain authors and preachers of past centuries would propose a Kingdom of Justice over which God presided and a Kingdom of Mercy over which Mary presided.

These sorts of excesses were not expressive of the mind and faith of the Church…at all. Nor do they reflect the sacred deposit of the faith, found in Scripture and Tradition, of which the Church’s Magisterium is its guardian and the one who articulates from it.

At a moment in human history, the Second Person of the Trinity became incarnate. He came to live among us as a man. He suffered, died, and rose from the dead to accomplish the Redemption. It is impossible for a creature, even one of singular dignity such as His mother according to the assumed human nature, to surpass Him in His solicitude for the salvation of a soul for whom He, the Logos, became incarnate, suffered, and died.

Mariology underwent a great renewal after the Council…although the renewal had begun before the Council with Mariologists working in the 20th century, before and after Vatican II, to revisit and to redress excesses that went back to the High Scholastics and followed in their wake.
 
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I agree that Mary is a Merciful figure who holds back God’s Wrath as a plane tree shelters a traveler to the sun (example used in the book). Jesus is merciful for if he wasn’ then He would not have made His Mother the Queen the Mother of Mercy. Jesus is both a Judge of Justice and King of Mercy. Our Lady has no form of justice since she does not judge as Our Lord does, but accepts even the most vilest of sinners under Her mantle.

Even if we have provoked Jesus’ wrath His Mother would beg Him to pardon us.
The Mother of Jesus possesses the virtues in a supernal degree…the theological virtues of faith, hope, and charity as well as the cardinal virtues of justice, prudence, fortitude, and temperance…and the virtues which descend from these…and one cannot postulate theologically that she would act in opposition to, or without regard for, the exigencies of justice.

Mary is rightly invoked as Mother of Mercy because Jesus is Mercy.

Justice and Mercy do not come into conflict in the Trinity and certainly not in a way that requires the arbitration of Mary.

Better than devotional literature of previous centuries that present flawed and distorted imagery, one does well to look at contemporary magisterial treatment, such as Pope Saint John Paul II’s encyclical Dives in Misericordia, which is truly outstanding.

This encyclical also well situates Mercy as manifest in human history emerging from the Economic Trinity, and situates it in the totality of divine revelation and in salvation history. The Pope also treats of the Virgin Mary in a theologically sober manner that is rooted in and expresses solidly the perspective of Mariology with regard to the Marian elements that are encountered as one considers this Mystery/this topic.

The Holy Father speaks of her, by contrast to these other texts, as the one who proclaims the mercy of God and the one to herself experience mercy in a unique and singular way, which is a much better frame of reference and one that better expresses what emerges from the deposit of the faith…and these are the paradigms for her maternal office and activity, while wholly preserving a thoroughly Christocentric analysis and paradigm. It avoids imagery that is theologically not helpful or of dubious utility. It also avoids soteriological issues.
*Mary proclaimed on the threshold of her kinswoman’s house: "His mercy is…from generation to generation.

Mary is also the one who obtained mercy in a particular and exceptional way, as no other person has.*
Finally, the oft-repeated image from Saint Alphonsus is, in its own way, theologically problematic and not one to be found in either contemporary magisterial usage or theological exposition…other than theological texts oriented to resolving and redressing the problems.
 
Was just reading “the Glories of Mary”. In it St. Alphonsus describes the kingdom of God consisting of two components – justice and mercy.

The saint says that Christ reserved justice for himself, yielding the empire of mercy to His mother. St. Alhonsus also quotes St. Thomas (in his preface to the Canonical Epistles) as saying that "…when the Blessed Virgin conceived the Eternal Word in her womb, and brought him forth, she obtained half of the kingdom of God. So that she is the Queen of Mercy, as Jesus Christ is the King of Justice". Similarly, with other examples he seemingly makes the point that “mercy” is the Marian trait, and “justice” the trait of Christ.

I found this interesting – but I’m wondering about something.

In our now prevalent devotion to the Divine Mercy, St. Faustina points us to a rather different model – the focus of mercy is no longer so much Mary – but Jesus himself(!)

Perhaps there is no contradiction here. Perhaps Jesus and Mary both dispense mercies, and perhaps the “justice” of God is provided for somehow…

But does this not suggest that our Catholic thought and teaching on mercy has evolved over the years?
Hi. I find this sentence to be a little inflammatory:

‘In our now prevalent devotion to the Divine Mercy, St. Faustina points us to a rather different model – the focus of mercy is no longer so much Mary – but Jesus himself.’
  • in the sense that it suggests that Mary was ever the sole focus. I would guess you didn’t mean it this way. But this is what I think some people in interdenominational branches of Christianity, that don’t understand, would suggest, as it appears to attack the due reverence one is to accord toward our Blessed Mother, as if Jesus and Mary could ever be separated by such blighted attempts at segregation.
‘The saint says that Christ reserved justice for himself, yielding the empire of mercy to His mother.’

First, it depends what you mean by ‘justice’? Some would say that if God IS Mercy, as another poster has suggested, then God’s Justice is Mercy (I think someone important said that recently) for justice is the bringing back of those who walk away from His Mercy (maybe interpreted clearer in terms of restorative healing).

‘The saint says that Christ reserved justice for himself, yielding the empire of mercy to His mother.’

Catholics believe - as written in the Catechism - that Mary is indeed Mediatrix of Grace, and therefore, any graces that flow from the Mercy of God will pass through her hands, and in this way, God has indeed made her the Queen of all things, in Heaven and on Earth. But this is not drawing opposites to God. She obtains graces for us as she is intercessor, as the mystical Spouse of the Holy Spirit. This term is not out-of-date. God wants all people to go to Heaven. He also doesn’t permit evil. Because humanity, though made good, is fallen, we are all sinners, and therefore need to appeal before the throne of Mercy. We do this by going to Confession through the power of the Church, and of course, through our Holy Mother, who, as St. Augustine of Hippo rightly stated, is both the Beginning and the Mother of the Church - she indeed prefigured the Church (stated in the LOTH). Mary intercedes for and with the Church to Christ, who appeals at the Father’s Right Hand.

‘In our now prevalent devotion to the Divine Mercy, St. Faustina points us to a rather different model – the focus of mercy is no longer so much Mary – but Jesus himself!’

It was in the Congregation of Sisters of Our Lady of MERCY that Divine Mercy was to be found! Something to contemplate. It could be said that devotion to Our Lady was the means throughout the centuries through whom we now draw the richness of understanding stemming from Scripture, to do with Divine Mercy, and she still is!

Such intercession from Our Lady was not only an optional extra but the way in which Jesus made necessary, as written in the few times that Our Lady is made known, and as such illumined throughout Salvation History.

‘But does this not suggest that our Catholic thought and teaching on mercy has evolved over the years?’

Different centuries produce different problems in the world to varying degrees of seriousness and this has meant that people’s devotions have taken on sometimes a very strong appeal to their Mother. And this is what we are to do. Because She is our Mother.

Our Lady is indeed ‘our life, our sweetness and our hope’ because she is perfectly conformed to the Will of God (Divine Motherhood), is the Mystical Spouse of the Holy Spirit, who IS the Spirit of God the Father and the Son (the Third Person). Of course, we know she is also Handmaiden to God who is our Eternal Life, Sweetness and Hope, but if we take the Catholic view that Our Lady is not in opposition to God’s Will, then we also say she is all of these things, as she obtains the graces necessary to keep returning to the Holy Trinity for reconciliation and healing.

The Triumph of the Immaculate can be traced to Scripture.

You can be sure that Our Lady is both Queen and Mother, put in this position by God Himself, and in this way nothing has changed, and never will. The Saints spoke most eloquently of Our Lady, by encouraging very strong devotion to her, and these sentiments and declarations of faith were for valid reasons, and if they were valid reasons then they would have been Holy reasons, and as Jesus Himself said: “Only God is Good”: He IS the reason, because He is our ultimate end, along with the rest of our Heavenly Family, to whom our most Holy Blessed Mother is dedicated to helping.
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Was just reading “the Glories of Mary”. In it St. Alphonsus describes the kingdom of God consisting of two components – justice and mercy.

The saint says that Christ reserved justice for himself, yielding the empire of mercy to His mother. St. Alhonsus also quotes St. Thomas (in his preface to the Canonical Epistles) as saying that "…when the Blessed Virgin conceived the Eternal Word in her womb, and brought him forth, she obtained half of the kingdom of God. So that she is the Queen of Mercy, as Jesus Christ is the King of Justice". Similarly, with other examples he seemingly makes the point that “mercy” is the Marian trait, and “justice” the trait of Christ.

I found this interesting – but I’m wondering about something.

In our now prevalent devotion to the Divine Mercy, St. Faustina points us to a rather different model – the focus of mercy is no longer so much Mary – but Jesus himself(!)

Perhaps there is no contradiction here. Perhaps Jesus and Mary both dispense mercies, and perhaps the “justice” of God is provided for somehow…

But does this not suggest that our Catholic thought and teaching on mercy has evolved over the years?
St Alphonsus was not ignorant of the fact that what ever our Blessed Mother is and has, she has received from her divine Son who is God. Our Blessed Mother herself would be the first to tell us this, cf. the magnificat in Luke. Our Lady as the Mother or Queen of Mercy is a reflection of the mercy of God and her divine son. Jesus and God, however, are the ones we are going to have to give an account of our pilgrimage and time here on earth. It is an article of faith that we recite in the Apostles Creed ‘from thence he shall come to judge the living and the dead.’ So Jesus is the judge of our time on earth and he will pronounce the eternal sentence, heaven or hell, depending on whether we did good or evil in our time in the body on earth; mercy will be shown to the repentant and justice and punishment to the unrepentant and wicked. God is the final judge and not Mary as she is a creature of God like us and so I think it is in this sense that as you say St Alphonsus says
that Christ reserved justice for himself, yielding the empire of mercy to His mother. The role that Mary plays in our spiritual lives and eternal salvation as our mother is to lead us to Christ. Mary is our mediatrix with Christ as Jesus is our mediator with the Father. Mary’s role in our spiritual lives as our spiritual mother is analogous somewhat to the role our biological mothers’ play in the family in that it is generally easier to go through your mother if you want to ask something of your father. Mothers’ are often called the ‘heart’ of the family. And the heart is associated with love and mothers’ are especially associated with love. Mothers’ are as the bond of unity between father and child. Similarly, the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Love, is the bond of unity between God the Father and God the Son. In the theological reflections of St Maximilian Kolbe, our Blessed Lady is especially a reflection of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Love, in the inner life of the Holy Trinity. The Holy Spirit is, of course, the Spirit of the Father and the Son, the personified Love the Father and the Son have for each other.

What may be often overlooked concerning the spirituality St Faustina and the devotion to Divine Mercy is her very strong marian devotion. The very religious community St Faustina was a member of are called The Sisters of Our Lady of Mercy. In this connection, Fr. Donald Calloway, MIC, has written a new book titled ‘Purest of All Lilies: the Virgin Mary in the Spirituality of St Faustina.’ Link:

thedivinemercy.org/news/To-The-Divine-Mercy-Through-Mary-3264

I found a link to a thesis Fr. Calloway wrote with the same title in pursuing a degree in sacred theology:

etd.ohiolink.edu/!etd.send_file?accession=udmarian1431436028&disposition=inline

Mary to St Faustina “I am Mother to you all, thanks to the unfathomable mercy of God” (Diary 449)

“To give worthy praise to the Lord’s mercy, we unite ourselves with Your Immaculate Mother, for then our hymn will be more pleasing to You, because She is chosen from among men and angels. Through Her, as through a pure crystal, Your mercy was passed on to us. Through Her, man became pleasing to God; Through Her, streams of grace flowed down upon us.” (Diary, 1746)
–St. Faustina
 
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