Jesus only for humans? Or for everybeing?

[mellysue]

I hope animals are in heaven. That would be very cool. I seriously mis my cat who died last year (she was 18). It would be great to see her again.
But even if there are no animals in heaven, I don’t think I will be complaining

But animals do not need to be saved. They don’t have to get baptised and all that. So I was asking why we always assume that aliens would be like us. Animals know God (by instinct?). Animals don’t sin. Why can’t Aliens be the same way?
I guess since we always assume aliens are as (or more) intelligent as us we assume the will need a relationship with God as well.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Mystophilus:

I was just wondering how one could evangelise to another life-form if Jesus only came here and they never had an Incarnation…

I think the wisest words on the matter are those in C. S. Lewis’ essay “Religion and Rocketry”.

 

[drforjc]

3)fallen but not saved [lets reject this because it seems manifestly unjust]

Wait a minute, what if God were preparing them for salvation but temporally it simply has not yet happened? After all, the chosen people Israel existed in time before the Messiah came. Was it unjust of God to make Israel wait for its Redeemer?

 

[Verbum_Caro]

drforjc:

Wait a minute, what if God were preparing them for salvation but temporally it simply has not yet happened? After all, the chosen people Israel existed in time before the Messiah came. Was it unjust of God to make Israel wait for its Redeemer?

drforjc,
Nice catch on that one. I intented #3 to be “fallen, and perpetually unsaved”. In other words, if you accept the premise that after the incarnation salvation can only come by virtue of the incarnation, and you accept the premise that Christ can not reincarnate and you accept the premise that only those beings (Humans) who share their humanity with Christ can be saved through the incarnation then you are left with non-human created material persons who do not share in the merits of the incarnation and thus will not be saved. That is what we would reject as manifestly unjust.

The alternative is, that these persons are saved thorugh some other manner (i.e. not through the Incarnation). This seems inappropriate as well.

Does that clear up my above post?
VC

 

[Catilieth]

Just a thought.
The Mother of God has appeared to many people. The Virgin of Guadalupe in no way physically resembles Our Lady of Lourdes. In one she has European features, in the other she is most definitly Aztec. Yet, no matter that she physically appears to be 2 different people, we have no doubt that it is the one Mother of God.

Also, Saints bilocate. The are truely physically present in 2 places at one time, with physical bodies doing physical things. They are not 2 persons, they remain themselves…not like a clone or a reincarnation. This is of God, therefore one would assume that God has this attribute. Could not Christ be in 2 worlds at one time, simultaneously being incarnated?