Jesus prayed the Rosary

  • Thread starter Thread starter USMC_Convert
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
U

USMC_Convert

Guest
So I was meditating on some of Christ’s last words, and kind of His last hours in general and I was brought to the conclusion that Jesus prayed the Rosary.

Now obviously it was not the Rosary that we pray today, but follow me here and see if what I’ve come up with makes any sense.

So Jews from way before Jesus and still to the present day pray the psalms. In fact it is known that from the beginning of the Church many Catholics also prayed the psalms daily. The history of the Rosary is that we took the 150 psalms and from that we got the Rosary.

So therefore we can conclude that Jesus prayed the psalms, the earliest version of the Rosary, but how do we know for sure? I mean it’s not like there is a Bible passage that says “Jesus went out by Himself and prayed the 150 psalms” is there?

Well there might actually be one, Matthew 27:46 says that about the ninth hour Jesus cried out “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” Well that is the beginning of psalms 22, which means that Jesus in His most desperate and painful suffering, in the literal hour of His death was praying the psalms, and possibly even trying to put the extreme importance on what He knew would evolve into the Rosary.

I mean if you were about to die, and you knew everyone for the rest of time would really take a good hard look at that moment in your life, wouldn’t you say something really profound, something really important, something that people would really need?

My personal opinion, Jesus is trying to tell us to pray the Rosary.
 
USMC_Convert said:
So I was meditating on some of Christ’s last words, and kind of His last hours in general and I was brought to the conclusion that Jesus prayed the Rosary.

Now obviously it was not the Rosary that we pray today, but follow me here and see if what I’ve come up with makes any sense.

So Jews from way before Jesus and still to the present day pray the psalms. In fact it is known that from the beginning of the Church many Catholics also prayed the psalms daily. The history of the Rosary is that we took the 150 psalms and from that we got the Rosary.

So therefore we can conclude that Jesus prayed the psalms, the earliest version of the Rosary, but how do we know for sure? I mean it’s not like there is a Bible passage that says “Jesus went out by Himself and prayed the 150 psalms” is there?

Well there might actually be one, Matthew 27:46 says that about the ninth hour Jesus cried out “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” Well that is the beginning of psalms 22, which means that Jesus in His most desperate and painful suffering, in the literal hour of His death was praying the psalms, and possibly even trying to put the extreme importance on what He knew would evolve into the Rosary.

I mean if you were about to die, and you knew everyone for the rest of time would really take a good hard look at that moment in your life, wouldn’t you say something really profound, something really important, something that people would really need?

My personal opinion, Jesus is trying to tell us to pray the Rosary.
Click to expand...
Rather, Jesus prayed the Office, from which the Rosary was derived. The Divine Office is what is considered to be the continuing and extension of Christ’s prayer.

It’s more like Jesus (and the Church) are calling the faithful to pray the Office, still a higher and more superior form of prayer than the Rosary.
 
USMC_Convert said:
So I was meditating on some of Christ’s last words, and kind of His last hours in general and I was brought to the conclusion that Jesus prayed the Rosary.

Now obviously it was not the Rosary that we pray today, but follow me here and see if what I’ve come up with makes any sense.

So Jews from way before Jesus and still to the present day pray the psalms. In fact it is known that from the beginning of the Church many Catholics also prayed the psalms daily. The history of the Rosary is that we took the 150 psalms and from that we got the Rosary.

So therefore we can conclude that Jesus prayed the psalms, the earliest version of the Rosary, but how do we know for sure? I mean it’s not like there is a Bible passage that says “Jesus went out by Himself and prayed the 150 psalms” is there?

Well there might actually be one, Matthew 27:46 says that about the ninth hour Jesus cried out “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” Well that is the beginning of psalms 22, which means that Jesus in His most desperate and painful suffering, in the literal hour of His death was praying the psalms, and possibly even trying to put the extreme importance on what He knew would evolve into the Rosary.

**I mean if you were about to die, and you knew everyone for the rest of time would really take a good hard look at that moment in your life, wouldn’t you say something really profound, something really important, something that people would really need?
**
My personal opinion, Jesus is trying to tell us to pray the Rosary.
Click to expand...
Regarding the bolded part, Yes I think this is true. Would Jesus really be meditating on his own crucifixion, while he was hanging on the cross, for his own comfort? Or is he trying to help us connect the dots?
 
porthos11 said:
Rather, Jesus prayed the Office, from which the Rosary was derived. The Divine Office is what is considered to be the continuing and extension of Christ’s prayer.

It’s more like Jesus (and the Church) are calling the faithful to pray the Office, still a higher and more superior form of prayer than the Rosary.
Click to expand...
Why is it not enough to just say “Jesus prayed the Psalms?” What is served by introducing an anachronistic angle by saying he “prayed the Office?” Makes one wonder whether he prayed the pre-Pius X version or the post-Pius X version.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
Why is it not enough to just say “Jesus prayed the Psalms?” What is served by introducing an anachronistic angle by saying he “prayed the Office?” Makes one wonder whether he prayed the pre-Pius X version or the post-Pius X version.
Click to expand...
Not as anachronistic as the claim that Jesus “prayed the Rosary” which even more far-out than saying Jesus prayed the Office.

In fact, the Divine Office throughout the apostolic churches derived from the Jewish practice Jesus would have followed, namely the regular praying of the Psalms. The natural successor of that Jewish practice is the Divine Office.

There is a whole theology behind the Divine Office, and it has a lot to do with Jesus’ own practice. In a way, whatever Christ did was the primordial Office, and our own Offices in whatever rites used throughout the churches are an extension and participation in that prayer (cf. GILH).

The Rosary is a devotion, and while it substituted for the Psalms in the day of illiteracy, it is just that–a devotion.

I was only turning the original OP logic, but my conclusion in fact stands. Christ’s own example in fact points us to the Office more than to the Rosary.
 
USMC_Convert said:
So I was meditating on some of Christ’s last words, and kind of His last hours in general and I was brought to the conclusion that Jesus prayed the Rosary.

Now obviously it was not the Rosary that we pray today, but follow me here and see if what I’ve come up with makes any sense.

So Jews from way before Jesus and still to the present day pray the psalms. In fact it is known that from the beginning of the Church many Catholics also prayed the psalms daily. The history of the Rosary is that we took the 150 psalms and from that we got the Rosary.

So therefore we can conclude that Jesus prayed the psalms, the earliest version of the Rosary, but how do we know for sure? I mean it’s not like there is a Bible passage that says “Jesus went out by Himself and prayed the 150 psalms” is there?

Well there might actually be one, Matthew 27:46 says that about the ninth hour Jesus cried out “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” Well that is the beginning of psalms 22, which means that Jesus in His most desperate and painful suffering, in the literal hour of His death was praying the psalms, and possibly even trying to put the extreme importance on what He knew would evolve into the Rosary.

I mean if you were about to die, and you knew everyone for the rest of time would really take a good hard look at that moment in your life, wouldn’t you say something really profound, something really important, something that people would really need?

My personal opinion, Jesus is trying to tell us to pray the Rosary.
Click to expand...
Insightful post. 🙂 I can’t really comment either way. But to say that the psalms were of Jesus. Jesus was the psalms, as you pointed out, with the use of psalm 22.
 
porthos11 said:
Rather, Jesus prayed the Office, from which the Rosary was derived. The Divine Office is what is considered to be the continuing and extension of Christ’s prayer.

It’s more like Jesus (and the Church) are calling the faithful to pray the Office, still a higher and more superior form of prayer than the Rosary.
Click to expand...
The rosary contains the Divine Mysteries so be careful about making comparisons. I can give you a Catechism citation if you so wish.

The LOTH and the Rosary are two different forms of prayer:

The LOTH is praise and thanksgiving.

The Rosary is meditative and supplicatory.
 
friardchips said:
The rosary contains the Divine Mysteries so be careful about making comparisons. I can give you a Catechism citation if you so wish.

The LOTH and the Rosary are two different forms of prayer:

The LOTH is praise and thanksgiving.

The Rosary is meditative and supplicatory.
Click to expand...
Wow, ok. Do you actually pray the Divine Office?
 
JRS_88 said:
Wow, ok. Do you actually pray the Divine Office?
Click to expand...
Yes.

I don’t really wish to comment beyond what I have already except to say that it is not up to us to claim to know what is better.
 
friardchips said:
Yes.

I don’t really wish to comment beyond what I have already except to say that it is not up to us to claim to know what is better.
Click to expand...
friardchips said:
The LOTH is praise and thanksgiving.
Click to expand...
I find it hard to believe that the Roman rite Divine Office doesn’t have prayers of supplication, but I don’t know because I pray the Maronite Prayer of the Faithful.
 
USMC_Convert said:
So Jews from way before Jesus and still to the present day pray the psalms. In fact it is known that from the beginning of the Church many Catholics also prayed the psalms daily. The history of the Rosary is that we took the 150 psalms and from that we got the Rosary.
Click to expand...
The Church still prays the psalms every day. The psalms make up the core of the Divine Office, AKA the Liturgy of the Hours. Plus psalms are prayed at Mass as well. Monks still pray the psalms 7 times a day, and those bound to the Roman Office pray the psalms 5 times a day plus at Mass.
 
Tim_D said:
It should really be under “fanciful.”
Click to expand...
Actually being that both the Rosary and the praying of the psalms are traditions of the Church I figured that it would make most sense to be here. Of course I could very well be wrong.
 
Praying the Psalms is a Jewish thing, so are you saying all the Jews prayed the Rosary?

I somehow cannot make the connection you did:shrug:
 
CB_Catholic said:
Praying the Psalms is a Jewish thing, so are you saying all the Jews prayed the Rosary?

I somehow cannot make the connection you did:shrug:
Click to expand...
Totally agree. Sometimes we forget that the Jewish Scriptures and traditions are precedent to Christianity and are quite authentic in their own right. We are the ones who ‘borrowed’ them for our own use.
 
USMC_Convert said:
I mean if you were about to die, and you knew everyone for the rest of time would really take a good hard look at that moment in your life, wouldn’t you say something really profound, something really important, something that people would really need?
Click to expand...
Yes, If I were about to die, I would pray what the Orthodox pray. The Jesus Prayer.

“Lord Jesus Christ, thou Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner”
 
USMC_Convert said:
Actually being that both the Rosary and the praying of the psalms are traditions of the Church I figured that it would make most sense to be here. Of course I could very well be wrong.
Click to expand...
I guess you could also say that Jesus prayed the Stations of the Cross, too, huh?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top