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Hi Cyber
I would suggest that the oak and the acorn are the same tree, but that over time the tree sheds one set of qualities for another. That does not invalidate what came before, but confirms it.
The âHail Maryâ devotional prayer evolved a lot itself (the last phrase, or conclusion, had many possible variations and is still different in the east from the western version), not being fixed in the west into itâs final well known form until after Trent.
I have a chaplet of St Patrick (died circa 490AD) which does not include the Hail Mary prayer in any form.
No devotions from the âsaplingâ stage of the church would include a Hail Mary. That does not invalidate them.
In the eastern church the most popular exclamatory prayer is the Prayer of the Heart, or âJesus Prayerâ, it is well attested from the third and fourth centuries, can be prayed with or without beads and does not have a fixed number of repititions. The individual may decide (often in consultation with a spiritual director) how many to say. This is a fully Catholic, not Protestant, practice.
Christ is RisenâŚIndeed!
Michael
Hi Cyber
I would suggest that the oak and the acorn are the same tree, but that over time the tree sheds one set of qualities for another. That does not invalidate what came before, but confirms it.
There is a popular myth the the BVM gave St Dominic the rosary in the early 13th century, however it is a well known fact that the rosary developed in late antiquity from the practice of saying 150 âOur Fathersâ, and that was to allow the less well educated common folk to pray in the spirit of the monastics who would pray 150 Psalms.
The âHail Maryâ devotional prayer evolved a lot itself (the last phrase, or conclusion, had many possible variations and is still different in the east from the western version), not being fixed in the west into itâs final well known form until after Trent.
I have a chaplet of St Patrick (died circa 490AD) which does not include the Hail Mary prayer in any form.
No devotions from the âsaplingâ stage of the church would include a Hail Mary. That does not invalidate them.
In the eastern church the most popular exclamatory prayer is the Prayer of the Heart, or âJesus Prayerâ, it is well attested from the third and fourth centuries, can be prayed with or without beads and does not have a fixed number of repititions. The individual may decide (often in consultation with a spiritual director) how many to say. This is a fully Catholic, not Protestant, practice.
Christ is RisenâŚIndeed!
Michael