Jesus said the goats would be on the left

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So I wonder if it’s just a coincidence that, for the most part, the political left seems so godless and hostile to Christianity. Has anyone else wondered about this especially with the seemingly endless attacks on Christianity by the left?
 
Its not coincidence, the left and the right has been termed as such because of how it is used in the Bible. That is why the right is always called the conservatives, and the left as liberals.
 
Its not coincidence, the left and the right has been termed as such because of how it is used in the Bible. That is why the right is always called the conservatives, and the left as liberals.
Uh, no. It comes from the French Parliament, where the generally more traditionalist group sat to the right of the chair of the president.
 
So I wonder if it’s just a coincidence that, for the most part, the political left seems so godless and hostile to Christianity. Has anyone else wondered about this especially with the seemingly endless attacks on Christianity by the left?
Tell that to Ayn Rand.
 
I would say coincidence. The last thing Christ cared about was political parties and their ideologies. Putting too much stock in literal application of Scripture to modern events is just a little too protestant in nature. At least for my taste. It’s the same road as using a phrase from revelations and predicting the end of the world soon.
 
Wait, we’re calling Ayn Rand a conservative now???
She had more in common politically with Republicans than Democrats (favoring an individualistic, private enterprise-driven free market), but she was what we would all recognize as an extremist.
 
Abraham Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves, but the OP is about current politics not the history of politics.
 
So I wonder if it’s just a coincidence that, for the most part, the political left seems so godless and hostile to Christianity. Has anyone else wondered about this especially with the seemingly endless attacks on Christianity by the left?
I think it coincidence. As another poster pointed out, trying to apply specific passages of Scripture to modern socio-political circumstance is born largely from dispensational theology, which I myself am not a big fan of.
 
I think it coincidence. As another poster pointed out, trying to apply specific passages of Scripture to modern socio-political circumstance is born largely from dispensational theology, which I myself am not a big fan of.
If it’s just a coincidence then it’s a Hell of a coincidence.
 
We don’ t live in proximity to livestock any longer so have lost the context of the differences between sheep and goats.

Goats are very curious animals and independent but sheep like to stay with the flock. Goats are also found in the wild where they do not obey a shepherd but sheep are almost entirely domesticated and easily taught to obey a shepherd, even learning to follow their shepherd by the sound of his voice. Goats eat more and give less meat and no wool, while sheep eat grass and give more meat and wool for clothes. As adults, goats sometimes dominate sheep when they are herded together.

The whole theme of the Gospel of Matthew is Jesus as a king. The whole passage about sheep and goats has the the theme of kingship and the king executing judgement against nations.

When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. (Mathew 25:31-33)

The sheep and the goats are nations. Some nations are independent, domineering, disobedient, consume much and give back little like goats. Some nations are obedient, docile, do not demand much and bear much fruit.

Jesus will sit on a throne and judge the nations. The criteria for how he will judge nations is how well they treated the least of their people.

For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’ (Matthew 25:42-43)

The whole thing is a reference to Ezekiel 34.

Thus my flock had to graze on what your hooves had trampled and drink what your hooves had polluted. Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: Now I will judge between the fat and the lean. Because you push with flank and shoulder, and butt all the weak sheep with your horns until you drive them off, I will save my flock so they can no longer be plundered; I will judge between one sheep and another. I will appoint one shepherd over them to pasture them, my servant David; he shall pasture them and be their shepherd. (Ezekiel 34:19-23)

Jesus quotes or references the prophet Ezekiel many times.

The high priests, scribes, and pharisees were only interested in themselves. The were only insterested in their own riches and power and were not interested in mercy. Much of the Old Covenant law was about mercy - forgiving debts and releasing slaves and servants every seven years, helping widows and orphans and the elderly - but the leaders of Israel had abandoned that. They were poor shepherds.

Matthew 24 and 25 is where Jesus the King, who has come to establish a new kingdom, begins to pronounce judgement on the old Kingdom. He had just told the disciples that the temple would be torn down and that Jerusalem would be destroyed “before this generation should pass away” in the previous chapter and here he continues to illustrate how the priests, scribes and pharisees, by their abandonment of God’s commandments to be merciful and their greed and desire for power, have given up the right to lead. Jesus continues to pass judement on them as he establishes his kingdom.

I think there is a definite moral sense to this scripture which we can apply to today’s leadership in many different nations, but I really don’t think we can draw the conclusion that Jesus is condemning left wing democratic ideology and promoting right wing republican ideology. Given his criterea about how he will judge nations, “As you have done to the least of them you have done it to me”, we have all fallen short in many respects.

-Tim-
 
She is irrelevant to this since she doesn’t represent the general consensus of the right.
Well, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Alan Greenspan, and Paul Ryan have all publicly stated how much they have been influenced by Ayn Rand. She remains very influential for many libertarians (though certainly not all). But perhaps these gentlemen are not as prominent on the right as I thought they were and most conservatives don’t like them because their views lie outside the “general consensus.”
 
So I wonder if it’s just a coincidence that, for the most part, the political left seems so godless and hostile to Christianity. Has anyone else wondered about this especially with the seemingly endless attacks on Christianity by the left?
Whose left and whose right? God and the judged would be facing each other.

I always imagined standing there, in one of the two crowds, looking on, thinking hard, “Now WHICH side is the good side???” until suddenly I hear “Zdrasweetyuh, dovarishch!!” (Russian for “Greetings, friend!”) behind me and there are Stalin, Chairman Mao and Adolph Hitler behind me shaking hands with Charles Manson!
 
Uh, no. It comes from the French Parliament, where the generally more traditionalist group sat to the right of the chair of the president.
Where do you think they got that?

Even before the First Century, the right has always been seen as a place of honor and place of righteousness. Even where proximity can be seen as an honor, those seated at the immediate right of the host is seen as more honorable than those seated on his left.
 
Where do you think they got that?

Even before the First Century, the right has always been seen as a place of honor and place of righteousness. Even where proximity can be seen as an honor, those seated at the immediate right of the host is seen as more honorable than those seated on his left.
I don’t know whether that’s where they got it or not. In fact, I doubt there’s a link. It arose in the context of the French Revolution, so I hardly think that in that particular context, those who were royalists would have sat to the right of the president of parliament due to some sense of being at the place of honor, although I admit, I do not know for sure. What I do know is that it is very problematic to identify conservative politics as being at the firgurative right hand of God, while placing liberal politics at the figurative left. Each group has its own problems, and each group, in differing ways, finds itself at odds with the teachings of the Church.
 
I don’t know whether that’s where they got it or not. In fact, I doubt there’s a link. It arose in the context of the French Revolution, so I hardly think that in that particular context, those who were royalists would have sat to the right of the president of parliament due to some sense of being at the place of honor, although I admit, I do not know for sure. What I do know is that it is very problematic to identify conservative politics as being at the firgurative right hand of God, while placing liberal politics at the figurative left. Each group has its own problems, and each group, in differing ways, finds itself at odds with the teachings of the Church.
The DNC has taken several actions against the Church to include legal action forcing the Church to get out of the adoption business. And now Obama’s HHS mandate is threatening to take away Catholic schools and hospitals. The RNC isn’t perfect, but at least they aren’t at war with the Church like the DNC is. In their official statement of ideology, the DNC condemns the RNC for being Pro-Life.
 
But, on the other hand, he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. 😃
 
But, on the other hand, he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey. 😃
When Jesus said the goats would be on the left he was talking about some time in the future. He didn’t say anything about a donkey in the future. Those on the left typically have strong atheist or relativist tendencies, and they often condemn those on the right for being religious.
 
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