Jesus the Carpenter and Patristics

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Only yesterday at Mass, when the priest referred to Jesus as a carpenter, did something finally dawn on me. Jesus spent a greater part of His life fashioning wood and He would eventually bring about salvation by the wood. Does anyone know if any of the Church Fathers made any commentaries on this fact? I’m sure it wouldn’t have escaped their attention. I am aware that they made some connection between the Cross and a plough given that some apocryphal texts stated that Jesus made ploughs as a carpenter, yet apart from that I don’t know of anything else. Does anyone know anything about this or have any links they’d like to share?
 
Not that I know of–but it’s an excellent point.

I’m surprised I didn’t think of that before myself!
 
He was most likely a jack of all trades, he never made much money in his life, so a highly specialized worker would have made top wages and recognition, yet nothing was heard much from that at all, so going to consider the term carpenter in this context as one that works with skill with his hands.

How it correlates with the cross, if we can only imagine the technology the all mighty could bestow upon mankind if we managed to become civilized and not crucify him, alas, we cannot because we are man and this is why we have our lord as Savior. It should make you wonder though, if Jesus was the way as in the normal way people everywhere fully embraced…
 
uhm… sorry, but I can’t make head nor tails of your reply :confused:
 
Justin Martyr said that Jesus “was in the habit of working as a carpenter when among men, making ploughs and yokes; by which He taught the symbols of righteousness and an active life” (, Ch. 88Dialogue with Trypho).

I thought this was neat. 🙂

In Christ,
Pete
 
Only yesterday at Mass, when the priest referred to Jesus as a carpenter, did something finally dawn on me. Jesus spent a greater part of His life fashioning wood and He would eventually bring about salvation by the wood. Does anyone know if any of the Church Fathers made any commentaries on this fact? I’m sure it wouldn’t have escaped their attention. I am aware that they made some connection between the Cross and a plough given that some apocryphal texts stated that Jesus made ploughs as a carpenter, yet apart from that I don’t know of anything else. Does anyone know anything about this or have any links they’d like to share?
Hmm…you bring a good point there. Pete already gave a good quote from St. Justin Martyr saying pretty much the same thing.
There are some think that two reasons why many believed Jesus made plows and yokes is because He talks quite a number of times about them, the reason being that He probably drew from experience, with the other reason being that the early Christians drew a sort of connection between Jesus’ woodworking with the wood of the cross, just as you realized.

An apocryphal gospel, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (not to be confused with the Nag Hammadi Gospel of Thomas), written between the 2nd to 3rd centuries, already attests to this belief. Note that there are many versions of the text; I will be using text of the earliest Greek witness we have, known as Greek Text S:

And he was about eight years old. And when his father, a carpenter, was making ploughs and yokes, he received a bed from a certain rich man so that he might make it exceedingly great and suitable. And since one of the required pieces was shorter and he did not have a measure, Joseph was distressed, not knowing what to do. The boy came to his father and said, “Put down the two pieces of wood and align them from your end.” Joseph did just as Jesus said to him. And the boy stood at the other end and took hold of the short piece of wood and stretched it. And he made it equal to the other piece of wood. And he said to his father, “Do not be distressed but do what you wish.” And Joseph embraced and kissed him saying, “Blessed am I for God gave me this boy.

As an aside - prodigalson12 already mentioned it - here’s something in more detail:
Tekton, the word traditionally translated as ‘carpenter’ in the New Testament, actually just meant ‘someone who works with his hands’, i.e. a laborer or a craftsman. If you wanted to say someone was a woodworker or a stonemason, you would have to be more specific: something like ‘a tekton who works in wood/stone’.
I guess Joseph and Jesus were like that. They were not just woodworkers like how many carpenters are today, but were probably also something like stonemasons or construction workers. In a place where stones were more numerous than high-quality wood - which were mostly imported and are thus unlikely to surface in a small town such as Nazareth (the wood they got at their backyard is enough to make yokes, plows and simple furniture, but that’s about it) - these would have been decent ways to make a living.
Some even think it likely that Jesus was also a boat builder and repairer at one point, citing His close relationship with the fishermen in the Capernaum area.

Of course, if we apply the ‘Jesus drawing from personal experience’ in here, you would note that one of His parables are about two people who built their houses in the rock and on sand. And the whole “upon this rock I will build my Church” thing. 😃
 
Hmm…you bring a good point there. Pete already gave a good quote from St. Justin Martyr saying pretty much the same thing.
There are some think that two reasons why many believed Jesus made plows and yokes is because He talks quite a number of times about them, the reason being that He probably drew from experience, with the other reason being that the early Christians drew a sort of connection between Jesus’ woodworking with the wood of the cross, just as you realized.

An apocryphal gospel, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas (not to be confused with the Nag Hammadi Gospel of Thomas), written between the 2nd to 3rd centuries, already attests to this belief. Note that there are many versions of the text; I will be using text of the earliest Greek witness we have, known as Greek Text S:

And he was about eight years old. And when his father, a carpenter, was making ploughs and yokes, he received a bed from a certain rich man so that he might make it exceedingly great and suitable. And since one of the required pieces was shorter and he did not have a measure, Joseph was distressed, not knowing what to do. The boy came to his father and said, “Put down the two pieces of wood and align them from your end.” Joseph did just as Jesus said to him. And the boy stood at the other end and took hold of the short piece of wood and stretched it. And he made it equal to the other piece of wood. And he said to his father, “Do not be distressed but do what you wish.” And Joseph embraced and kissed him saying, “Blessed am I for God gave me this boy.

As an aside - prodigalson12 already mentioned it - here’s something in more detail:
Tekton, the word traditionally translated as ‘carpenter’ in the New Testament, actually just meant ‘someone who works with his hands’, i.e. a laborer or a craftsman. If you wanted to say someone was a woodworker or a stonemason, you would have to be more specific: something like ‘a tekton who works in wood/stone’.
I guess Joseph and Jesus were like that. They were not just woodworkers like how many carpenters are today, but were probably also something like stonemasons or construction workers. In a place where stones were more numerous than high-quality wood - which were mostly imported and are thus unlikely to surface in a small town such as Nazareth (the wood they got at their backyard is enough to make yokes, plows and simple furniture, but that’s about it) - these would have been decent ways to make a living.
Some even think it likely that Jesus was also a boat builder and repairer at one point, citing His close relationship with the fishermen in the Capernaum area.

Of course, if we apply the ‘Jesus drawing from personal experience’ in here, you would note that one of His parables are about two people who built their houses in the rock and on sand. And the whole “upon this rock I will build my Church” thing. 😃
Looking at his other parables and teachings, he references people working in the field, fishing in general, and taking into account, my own personal experience, this follows suite. I’m a carpenter, as in wood worker, but wood is only one of many materials I work with for any given project, I have to know plumbing, electrical, surfacing, mobile structural engineering, some metelurgy, plexiglass work, etc. then onto IT stuff integrated as well as the mechanics of it all, so many gray areas that are covered, and to place them all within one title would be impossible, or at best, a long string of titles, so the term carpenter is not a bad one to use, as long as we have the proper context.
 
Looking at his other parables and teachings, he references people working in the field, fishing in general, and taking into account, my own personal experience, this follows suite. I’m a carpenter, as in wood worker, but wood is only one of many materials I work with for any given project, I have to know plumbing, electrical, surfacing, mobile structural engineering, some metelurgy, plexiglass work, etc. then onto IT stuff integrated as well as the mechanics of it all, so many gray areas that are covered, and to place them all within one title would be impossible, or at best, a long string of titles, so the term carpenter is not a bad one to use, as long as we have the proper context.
Carpenter is not that bad a rendering. But IMHO one minor problem with using it is, when we speak of carpenter in English, many people tend to think solely of a guy hewing, carving and fashioning wood. The Greek tekton, however, is not subject to the limitation that ‘carpenter’ has in modern English and is more an all-purpose term for ‘someone who works with his hands’. I guess tekton is better rendered as “craftsman” or “artisan” to capture this broader meaning?
 
That’s the problem though, we tend to modernize the context, and much, especially in the OT, if we did not know of the time frame, the customs, the way people thought and behaved, reading a line from it, we’ll come up with something totally different with the meaning of it.

Thank the Lord for discernment with these matters, obviously the popular media got it wrong, but as we all know, they are just spot on each time they portray some element from the bible…sarcastic comment with the last one. 🙂
 
That’s the problem though, we tend to modernize the context, and much, especially in the OT, if we did not know of the time frame, the customs, the way people thought and behaved, reading a line from it, we’ll come up with something totally different with the meaning of it.

Thank the Lord for discernment with these matters, obviously the popular media got it wrong, but as we all know, they are just spot on each time they portray some element from the bible…sarcastic comment with the last one. 🙂
Very good point! 😃 Especially the popular media one.
Well, we all know the popular media often chooses the ‘dramatic’ or even the ‘lie’ over the ‘real’, if the lie proved to be more dramatic and more lucrative than the reality. 😉
 
I’m not aware of the original word in greek (or hebrew for that matter), but in the OT there are plenty of references to yolks, especially in submitting to God’s will and to wisdom. In the Sapietial Books there are plenty such references.
 
I’m not aware of the original word in greek (or hebrew for that matter), but in the OT there are plenty of references to yolks, especially in submitting to God’s will and to wisdom. In the Sapietial Books there are plenty such references.
I think you meant ‘yoke’. 😛 And yes, the yoke was a rather obvious symbol of servitude and submission, in the negative sense even of oppression (hence ‘breaking the yoke’).

As an aside, I just remembered something: the horizontal beam of a cross is called a patibulum. The word originally meant a sort of yoke, especially one into which condemned criminals were fastened as they were made to do forced marches.
Eventually, the practice evolved so that now the patibulum is tied around the arms of the victim as they were made to carry it up to the place of execution, where the beam will be affixed to a vertical post (called stipes in Latin). 🙂

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4800/patibuluml.png
 
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