Jesus Walking on Water

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In the Shroud of Turin thread Jesus’ walking on water was brought up by an agnostic, as being a trick. I was told by another poster that Jesus walked at least a mile on the Sea of Galilee.

I looked it up and found an article suggesting a theory I’ve read before, which is that Jesus was really walking on ice. Thoughts?

 
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Oh my! How lucky to walk on ice in the middle of the ocean when they were sailing on a boat and then for ice to just so happen to appear under Peter’s feet when called out to but then disappear when he doubted!

But really, you’ll find people that will try so desperately to explain things naturalistically, even when it makes the facts not line up at all
 
Kei said:
Oh my! How lucky to walk on ice in the middle of the ocean when they were sailing on a boat and then for ice to just so happen to appear under Peter’s feet when called out to but then disappear when he doubted!

But really, you’ll find people that will try so desperately to explain things naturalistically, even when it makes the facts not line up at all
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That is the “pray” emoji, but I’m actually clapping.
 
The smiley face image above the text area. It’s next to the options.
 
Ice strong enough to walk on takes time to form… scientist use a ‘freezing degree days’ factor to predict it… yes DAYS… the Bible story implies Jesus was praying for HOURS… of course ice also takes days to thaw… and Peter sinking would have been less than an hour of Jesus walking… so the time frames alone do not support this ‘theory’
 
Dan_Defender said:
Ice strong enough to walk on takes time to form… scientist use a ‘freezing degree days’ factor to predict it… yes DAYS… the Bible story implies Jesus was praying for HOURS… of course ice also takes days to thaw… and Peter sinking would have been less than an hour of Jesus walking… so the time frames alone do not support this ‘theory’
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What about ice floes or chunks?
 
on the Sea of Galilee? has never been recorded to happen… latitude is too far south for that type of phenomenon
 
Why do people people who choose not to believe things that have been accepted for 2000 years expect believers to prove anything?

Shouldn’t the burden of proof fall on the nonbeliever?
 
I would not say impossible but highly unlikely… cooler means a few degrees not a climatic upheaval… there would be records
 
Brittany said:
The burden of proof is on whoever is making the claim. So for example, if someone claims “God is real,” the burden of proof is on them. If someone claims “God is not real,” the burden of proof is on them.
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Bingo-bango.
 
For the believer no proof is necessary, for the unbeliever no proof is enough. Jesus said ‘when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?’
 
Dan_Defender said:
I would not say impossible but highly unlikely… cooler means a few degrees not a climatic upheaval… there would be records
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  1. There was a storm that night, correct?
  2. Wouldn’t that make it hard, if not impossible to walk on ice?
  3. Also, below it says (from my second link) pretty much what you also said. This isn’t a Catholic site, but is it correct?
<<<<<<<<<<But the Sea of Galilee does not have ice floes, and the idea that it has had them in the past is outrageous speculation. This idea is not based on historical records or scientific observation. There are no records at all, ancient or modern, of ice floes ever having occurred on the Sea of Galilee (as these academics admit in their paper). Their claim involves the most tenuous and esoteric of reasoning.>>>>>>>>
 
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your first point about the storm… if the wind force is low you can walk on ice
 
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