Jesus Wants Gays to Be Happy

[InSearchofGrace]

Do you realize that the studies to establish these factors suffer from the same “problems” as the studies to establish the link between bullying and suicide? Or that listing these factors is not meant to say other factors do not play a role? Anyways, “stressful life event or loss” would seem to be inclusive of bullying.

That bullying happens, triggering suicide in already vulnerable young people is not being denied. Each suicide by a young person is a tragedy, straight or gay. The scrutiny on the studies was brought on by your post in 59 and after, echoing stancyk’s claiming lack of compassion by Catholic members in this forum for gays (in their disagreement with active homosexual lifestyle), and your interjecting the oft-repeated ‘gay teen suicide epidemic,’ largely based on faulty ‘studies’ and exaggerated claims.

You stated

One example is the frequency of gay teen suicides in Michelle Bachmann’s area.

without citing a source or basis. This is a kind of statement that hopes for an emotional response. It’s spin that michelleds rightly called out on Post 71.

And here, also from you

If you see the posting of conservatives regarding gay suicides, you see that it is more aimed at making sure that no one who plays a role in triggering a gay suicide is unjustly called a homophobe or charged with a hate crime than in actual sympathy or even in concern for prevention of deaths.

you write as though this applies to Catholics in this forum who speak or write their agreement to Church moral teaching that a) unacted homosexuality or same sex attraction is not a sin b) homosexuals are to be treated with compassion and respect c) homosexual acts are sinful d) condoning homosexual acts and participating in the legalization or promotion of same sex ‘marriage’ would be cooperation with evil.

Yes, there are bigoted people, prejudiced against homosexuals in the world. But if you pay attention to the postings of CAF members faithful to teaching, they are far from postings by members of the Westboro Baptist Church or site.

I asked this question of you which you may have missed. So I hereby pose it again: Do you wish that the moral teaching on same sex relationships / acts be revised by the Catholic Church as other Christian denominations have done, as a show of compassion to our homosexual brothers and sisters?

ISoG
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[heronimo]

God didn’t hate Gays rather the dirty works of Gays…now, if Gay’s ways of being happy is by doing dirty acts then Gays do not want by God to be happy though…

 

[InSearchofGrace]

Do you realize that the studies to establish these factors suffer from the same “problems” as the studies to establish the link between bullying and suicide? Or that listing these factors is not meant to say other factors do not play a role? Anyways, “stressful life event or loss” would seem to be inclusive of bullying.

That bullying happens, triggering suicide in already vulnerable young people is not being denied. Each suicide by a young person is a tragedy, straight or gay. The scrutiny on the studies was brought on by your post in 59 and after, echoing stancyk’s claiming lack of compassion by Catholic members in this forum for gays (in their disagreement with active homosexual lifestyle), and your interjecting the oft-repeated ‘gay teen suicide epidemic,’ largely based on faulty ‘studies’ and exaggerated claims.

In your words upthread,

If you see the posting of conservatives regarding gay suicides, you see that it is more aimed at making sure that no one who plays a role in triggering a gay suicide is unjustly called a homophobe or charged with a hate crime than in actual sympathy or even in concern for prevention of deaths.

you continue to imply that Catholics in this forum are dismissive of the trials of a homosexual, when they are speaking or writing their agreement to Church moral teaching that a) unacted homosexuality or same sex attraction is not a sin b) homosexuals are to be treated with compassion and respect c) homosexual acts are sinful d) condoning homosexual acts and participating in the legalization or promotion of same sex ‘marriage’ would be cooperation with evil.

CAF is not like beliefnet.com which puts all spiritual traditions on the same plane, and assigns equivalence to various ‘Christian truths’ out there. The forum is not anywhere like the Westboro Baptist site with hateful postings of members against homosexuals. I don’t see hateful posts in this thread and in this forum. Moderators remove such posts or posters submitting them. This is not saying there are no bigoted people, prejudiced against homosexuals in the world, who also try to use the Internet to propagate their unChristian position.

Where your sympathy leans is reflected in your posts. I am trying to figure out if you wish, as a show of understanding to the homosexual youth, as compassion to our homosexual brothers and sisters, to see the Catholic Church revise her moral teaching on same sex relationships / acts as other Christian denominations have done. I asked you this but perhaps you just missed it, so I pose it again. What is your answer?

ISoG
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[3DOCTORS]

Just found this thread. Good links. As a never-married single celibate woman, I often point out to people that I get lonely now and then and I am OK with being single but sometimes wish I could be married.

However, I’m not going to go with a guy who’d expect fornication and/or cohabitation to be part of the deal, even with the possibility of commitment. I’ve lived long enough to observe that this seems to be the pattern many of my sisters of all ages sell out for. To me that’s their loss.

I know, the pro-gay-marriage people would retort, “But at least you have the possibility of getting married.” True, but my chances are rather slender, and in any case, unless and until I do, I remain celibate and am at peace with that. Guess I’m thankful it hasn’t been as much of a struggle for me as I know it has been for others; everybody’s different in that regard. Still, when you get down to the essentials of the matter, either a sacrifice is worth it or it isn’t.