Jesus4Sharia

[unebesoj]

We are here to discuss, learn more about or Faith(Christianity-Catholic) and to get support through each-other and make sure we have our code and cult in order. We have our Faith, to spell it out WE HAVE OUR CREED which we belive in, we are trying to learn more about the Code (Catholic morality-the way we should live our Faith)and the Cult(the way we celebrate our Faith) and we are not here to debate about its relevance.
If you are a muslim and are interested to learning our Faith, you are welcome to ask questions and learn about the topic.
if you are here to disturb the atmosphere then you are in the wrong place.
Peace and Merry Christmas!

 

[dzheremi]

Anyone who is interested in how Islam really handles its finances should read the book “Alms For Jihad: Charity and Terrorism in the Islamic world”, cos you can bet that any money collected from non-Muslims will go straight to that, just like money from Muslims currently does. The book is not available in print anywhere due to the COWARDICE of Oxford Press, who were sued in a libel suit in the UK by one of the persons accused in the book of having funded terrorism and after losing that suit decided to kill the rest of the press. You can find it in pdf form online, though. At least until the Islamists and their puppets shut that down, too…

 

[hamba2han]

It all boils down to CHOICE folks i.e. whether you choose to continue being the debt slaves of people like the Bilderberg Group and all that it would entail… OR… you choose a practical and viable alternative to whatever that they are proposing as a “solution” to all of the problems that they have quite intentionally engineered in order for them to usher in their New World Order.

 

[dzheremi]

Well, our CHOICE is to say to hell with Sharia. We don’t want to be slaves to it, so peddle your “Sharia will heal the world” garbage elsewhere.

 

[Nine_Two]

It all boils down to CHOICE folks i.e. whether you choose to continue being the debt slaves of people like the Bilderberg Group and all that it would entail… OR… you choose a practical and viable alternative to whatever that they are proposing as a “solution” to all of the problems that they have quite intentionally engineered in order for them to usher in their New World Order.

I’d prefer some usurous scum who let me practice my religion in peace to gun totting jihadists who are going to rob me blind and cut off my head if I get out of line (possibly by publicly mentioning my religion) any day of the week.

 

[Jay53]

Anyone who is interested in how Islam really handles its finances should read the book “Alms For Jihad: Charity and Terrorism in the Islamic world”, cos you can bet that any money collected from non-Muslims will go straight to that, just like money from Muslims currently does. The book is not available in print anywhere due to the COWARDICE of Oxford Press, who were sued in a libel suit in the UK by one of the persons accused in the book of having funded terrorism and after losing that suit decided to kill the rest of the press. You can find it in pdf form online, though. At least until the Islamists and their puppets shut that down, too…

I just read that the Sheik in the book who brought the lawsuit (Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfouz) died in August of this year (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_bin_Mahfouz). From what I can gather, the lawsuit was about the fact that this man was listed as a brother-in-law of Osama Bin Laden when he supposedly is not related at all. ??? Maybe they’ll print the book now, once that error is fixed?

Supposedly the book shown to be available on Amazon isn’t really available. All the reviews say that it is only a review of the book that you are paying $9.95 for.

 

[jessicaAKAmommy]

These tent-dwellers in Sacramento, California would very likely not have lost their homes if there had been a Sharia-based economic system in place instead of a usury-based one.

http://www.foxnews.com/images/522855/0_61_032509_tentcity.jpg

When a usury-based economic system is responsible for bringing suffering and hardship to literally millions of people all over the world, why then do people still prefer to continue using such a system rather than switch to a Sharia-based economic system which prohibits usury altogether?

OK. I haven’t finished reading the thread, but I’m officially calling B. S. on this one. I live less than probablly 15 miles from where this picture was taken. The people that camp in those spots did NOT loose their homes due to the economy. These are semi(read actually) permanent encampments. They are addicts and mentally ill that the state has been unable or unwilling to take care of sence the 80’s. The Sisters of Mercy have been trying to get them a legal permanent camp because they have nowhere else to go and loose all of their belongings every time Sac PD raids the camps. Sorry for the derail, now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

 

[Nine_Two]

But it’s Taqiyah so it’s ok.

 

[jessicaAKAmommy]

I’m sure he didn’t expect anyone reading this thread had actually been there.

 

[staffsgt7]

It all boils down to CHOICE folks i.e. whether you choose to continue being the debt slaves of people like the Bilderberg Group and all that it would entail… OR… you choose a practical and viable alternative to whatever that they are proposing as a “solution” to all of the problems that they have quite intentionally engineered in order for them to usher in their New World Order.

Oh, so being in debt to a bunch of backward, violent Jihadists, a mass of brainwashed robots who support those violent Jihadists and accepting some degree of slavery is an alternative? Let us not forget to interject a god into the mix to make all the backwardness, willingness to accept violence because they are told it is ‘Allah’s Cause’ and it will get you to heaven so you can bypass hell and collect $200, or heaven - is what you are asking us to chose between?

How about ‘no’ to both of these groups? Islam is the world order to chaos, and hatred and death. I know that you guys love death more than we love life, we have been told that by may Muslims and if that is so then keep it to yourselves. But I know that another good deed, out of Sharia laws, is your mandate that you spread Islam and if we don’t take it willingly then violence is ok. Yep, that is what Sharia laws say is ok.

Here is what Vijay Kumar says about Sharia laws: Sharia Law

Islamic Sharia Law says all men are not created equal, but the American Declaration of Independence says otherwise. Islamic Sharia Law, which defines Islamic Government power, does not derive through the consent of the governed; and such law is therefore a feature of unjust and tyrannical government power—so says the American Declaration of Independence.

Islamic Sharia Law sanctions murder of non-Muslims and apostate Muslims, and so it violates the God-given human right to life, which our forefathers spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. Islamic Sharia Law suppresses human liberty, which our forefathers declared to be a God-given human right;

Our right to the pursuit of happiness, declared in the American Declaration of Independence, is nullified by Sharia Law because there can be no happiness if our right to life and liberty are destroyed.

Sharia laws nullify out any others laws in an attempt to create order in countries and replaces it with chaos, slavery and death. They even tell the people that if there is an unjust leader they are to just accept it which explains why no Muslim country helped others in the Middle East such as Saddam in Iraq.

Sharia laws are the most pathetic set of laws to come about which doesn’t say too much for the Koran and Sunnah that they are based on.

 

[GraceDK]

Ye shall know them by their fruits … Matthew 7:16

I very much doubt that Christians would be able to tell what are the things about Sharia law which contradicts the things that are taught in their own Bible.

For instance, if Christians say that the Church forbids usury, then why should they oppose establishing a Sharia-based economic system which actually forbids usury?

Instead, many Christians would prefer to continue using a usury-based economic system which has brought the whole world to the brink of financial meltdown.

And the same goes for the other things about Sharia law.

If Christians are completely honest about it, they will quickly realize that there is virtually nothing about Sharia law which contradicts the things that are taught in their own scriptures.

Why then do Christians oppose it?
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Because Islam is an island… its made 600 years later by a false prophet who understood neither the concepts of atonement nor of covenant which are totally BASIC to understanding Judeo-Christian relationship with God.

You are right that Sharia and Old Testament law are not far apart at face value. However, Christianity is clear: The Old Testament law was imperfect law and not the final will of God. Christ is the GOOD and HOLY will of God. The Image of God in the world.
You call personified barbarity “the final seal”… The Lord have mercy on you.

Islam degraded the whole salvation plan of God when it made Muhammad and his new law into the end and fulfiillment of it all.

Oh the blindness and ignorance of the stubborn Muslim. Of course… the devil likes to ape God… also, the devil is against *Israel, *the chosen people and against the woman.

• From these two, the Scripture is clear, was the Messiah to come. So of course Islam would involve contempt for both …

I encourage you to study the Bible from one end to the other, to get the full picture.( Forget the unhistorical and irrational nonsense that the Bible has been corrupted), and understand that Muhammad and his revelation was a backwardness of everything, spurning the Salvific Cross-death of Christ, the atonement, which was necessary for YOUR salvation.

Peace, blessing and light of understanding to you and your house.

 

[gmcbroom]

This may sound stupid and if so I apologize but. Isn’t Sharia law already allowed in European countries even England? When I mean Sharia laws I mean Sharia courts? if so then I feel for them. Primarily because it will start small. Then as the muslim population rises in those countries the Sharia courts will have to expand to govern their flock. They may use cries of religious persecution to help spread it and any politician willing to keep their own power will allow it thinking its just one district. Then, another, and another will be made. Until finally, the majority of the people being muslim would demand a change in government and then it will happen. So in a way its a brilliant tactit.

In the US people may complain and do, that we have a secular society thats corrupt. And some here are. However, atleast we have the freeedom to complain. So a word to the wise for those living where Sharia laws are just beginning to be considered; even for what is deemed a small population at the time; watch your government laws carefully, if any proposals come up about expanding them vote hard against it. It may be the only chance you have.

Beware the death of a thousand cuts.

 

[staffsgt7]

This may sound stupid and if so I apologize but. Isn’t Sharia law already allowed in European countries even England? When I mean Sharia laws I mean Sharia courts? if so then I feel for them. Primarily because it will start small. Then as the muslim population rises in those countries the Sharia courts will have to expand to govern their flock. They may use cries of religious persecution to help spread it and any politician willing to keep their own power will allow it thinking its just one district. Then, another, and another will be made. Until finally, the majority of the people being muslim would demand a change in government and then it will happen. So in a way its a brilliant tactit.

In the US people may complain and do, that we have a secular society thats corrupt. And some here are. However, atleast we have the freeedom to complain. So a word to the wise for those living where Sharia laws are just beginning to be considered; even for what is deemed a small population at the time; watch your government laws carefully, if any proposals come up about expanding them vote hard against it. It may be the only chance you have.

Beware the death of a thousand cuts.

Yes, you are right and it is quite possibly the stupidest, most ignorant thing a bunch of fools could allow in their lands. It is only the beginning of creeping sharia as you state and it won’t end now until they are fully Sharia compliant.

Sharia finance is also creeping in our financial institutions. It is allowing thugs to be voted into offices that control it and there is no accountability (sort of like Obama’s czars). It is seditious and also finances the violent jihad against all non-Muslims worldwide whether the money goes to support the violent military wing of Islam, or the more insidious ones such as the front groups for the Muslim Brotherhood (CAIR, MSA/MSU, ISNA, IIIT, etc).

 

[jakasaki]

These tent-dwellers in Sacramento, California would very likely not have lost their homes if there had been a Sharia-based economic system in place instead of a usury-based one.

http://www.foxnews.com/images/522855/0_61_032509_tentcity.jpg

When a usury-based economic system is responsible for bringing suffering and hardship to literally millions of people all over the world, why then do people still prefer to continue using such a system rather than switch to a Sharia-based economic system which prohibits usury altogether?

You were just “called out” by a poster living in the area Hamba ~

jessicaAKAmommy

…but I’'m officially calling B. S. on this one.

I live less than probablly 15 miles from where this picture was taken.

**The people that camp in those spots did NOT loose their homes due to the economy. **

**These are semi(read actually) permanent encampments. They are addicts and mentally ill that the state has been unable or unwilling to take care of sence the 80’s. **

The Sisters of Mercy have been trying to get them a legal permanent camp because they have nowhere else to go and loose all of their belongings every time Sac PD raids the camps.

How about you link & cite the source of your picture.

 

[Jay53]

 

[jessicaAKAmommy]

Thanks! I saw it was a Fox News link, but I didn’t read the article. I went back and read it, it is correct. Even mentions the shelter that distributes the back to school backpacks my kids put together at the end of summer!

Darn those pesky facts getting in the way of proving how wonderful sharia/Islam is!

I would have to agree with those who said they would rather die on their feet than live on their knees. (Must be the Irish blood…)

 

[Jay53]

Now I would like to know, was hamba being intentionally deceitful? And if yes, why?
Or was this picture being used by someone else/some Muslim organization as propaganda for their agenda?

 

[jessicaAKAmommy]

Oooppss…did I stir up trouble?

 

[dzheremi]

No, Hamba2han did. As usual, there is total silence on the offender’s end, since he probably knows he can’t lie his way out of this!

Face it, Hamba, you have ZERO credibility here because of stunts like this. I feel sorry for the Muslims here who have to clean up your mess after you continue to lie in the name of Islam. If you won’t stop it for us, at least stop it for them.

 

[staffsgt7]

You were just “called out” by a poster living in the area Hamba ~

How about you link & cite the source of your picture.

No, their tongues would be cut out if they started whining about their living conditions. I don’t want to bother with the tent cities of Afghanistan refugees with the Taliban after NO MUSLIM country helped them out. With Sharia laws we could expect women being executed in the streets, or gays executed in the streets. We would be gathered to the town squares to watch their stonings, beheadings, and hangings; and also the taking off of limbs.

Under Sharia laws it is against the laws to try to change any thug in charge.

The one thing I wonder about is how they monitor the washing obsessions. Are their police that monitor their bedrooms and bathrooms on a regular basis? Do they monitor the discharges from men and women too? Seriously there are laws about praying depending on what is discharged into their underwear.