Jesus's feelings in the Garden at Gethsemene

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Today as I was started saying the rosary and started to dwell on Jesus and the “agony in the Garden”, I thought why, if Jesus is God, should He be in such torment and fear.
Now I consideerd the following thought which I dont know if in line with RCC teaching:
Jesus is of course God, but as a man He is still plagued by doubt as to whether He really is who is says He is or if Go really exists or maybe that there is chance that what He does is not enough. I understand this may be heretical to say this, but I want to know, what Jesus could have feared? The pain? Perhaps, as He knew it was going to be terrible, yet not so terrible as a shred of doubt in His mind.
I guess I’m getting on to bigger things here, but a battle is never contended unless there is a chance for both sides to win. Satan must have some chance, and therefore Jesus must have had some doubt. We dont know what it is but it caused me not to be so confident in my beliefs as before. What is it that ou think happened?
 
The Agony in the Garden
From the Supper Room in Jerusalem, Jesus and his disciples went out into the night to a quiet grove of olive trees called Gethsemani on the western slope of Mount Olivet. Taking Peter, James and John, witnesses of his transfiguration in glory, he withdrew deeper into the garden. They would witness now his fear and hear his anxious prayer.

Going on alone, a stone’s throw away, Jesus fell upon the ground and began to pray a doleful prayer:

“Abba, Father, all things are possible to you; remove this cup from me. Yet not my will but yours be done.” (Mark 14,36)

So troubled and distressed had he become by what he saw before him Ð a brutal death Ð that “his sweat became like drops of blood falling to the ground.” (Luke 22,43) Returning three times to seek his disciples’ support, he found them asleep.

On that dark night, when evil had its way, Jesus found support in only One. “Abba, Father.” A child’s cry came from his heart. Cold fear, betrayal, the desertion of friends, the false judgments of others, the whips, the nails, the hard wood could not stop it. His childlike faith in God would not be broken, even through the hours of pain and tears.

When words no longer could be said, nor thoughts no longer formed, that confident prayer uttered in the garden would remain in Jesus’ heart. “Abba, Father, all things are possible to you.”

His prayer did not go unanswered. Luke’s account of the agony of Jesus says: “An angel came from heaven to strengthen him.”

What can we learn from all of this? That Jesus will watch with us in the dark gardens of our life? That he will teach us this same childlike prayer? That he will send his angel, too, to strengthen us?

Meditation by Fr Victor Hoagland, C.P
 
That’s a really great piece.

I always get really emotional about this account. I don’t suppose it would have been much of a sacrifice unless it was gonna hurt. Jesus was fully God and fully man, so I do not see any paradox in the garden account, I see God humble as he is throughout the Gospel asking for strength to accomplish his terrible mission. Knowing the agony he must endure, the slander, the torture, the physical and mental pain, having to watch the agony of his mother and friends.
 
I’ve never bought the “fear” idea, that He bled out of anxiety or fear for what was about to happen. When someone is afraid they turn pale, the body instinctively draws the blood closer to the core of the body. To sweat blood sounds as though He was fighting intensely. Certainly there was much to doubt and be afraid of but our Lord was never weak in His resolve and He was *so *strong in fighting His human temptations that it led Him to sweat blood in the struggle.

He’s quite a man. 🙂
 
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I’ve never bought the “fear” idea, that He bled out of anxiety or fear for what was about to happen. When someone is afraid they turn pale, the body instinctively draws the blood closer to the core of the body. To sweat blood sounds as though He was fighting intensely. Certainly there was much to doubt and be afraid of but our Lord was never weak in His resolve and He was *so *strong in fighting His human temptations that it led Him to sweat blood in the struggle.

He’s quite a man. 🙂
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Amen! 🙂
 
"On that dark night, when evil had its way, Jesus found support in only One. “Abba, Father.” A child’s cry came from his heart. Cold fear, betrayal, the desertion of friends, the false judgments of others, the whips, the nails, the hard wood could not stop it. His childlike faith in God would not be broken, even through the hours of pain and tears. "
I like it the way this is written an its given me more to consider when I say the Sorrowful mysteries - thanks-However does anyone ever wonder, that God the Son,in a normal mans body ever entertained a doubt at that crucial moment? Do you think that Satan saw a glimmer of hope? I know God the Father in his Godly state in Heaven would have seen even further than Jesus could see and know it would turn out ok in the end.
 
It was not fear or lack of faith that caused Our Lord so much pain but the Burden that was placed upon him!

All the sins of mankind, from the beginning of time to the end of time, were placed upon his shoulders. All the torture and pain was nothing compared to the cross he carried. Satan knew this and tried to get Jesus to relieve himself of such a heavy burden. The struggle with such a burden was so great he perspired blood!

JESUS! JESUS! JESUS! I thank you so much fo rcoming into this world, teaching your people, and shouldering your cross for the sake of all Gods people!

PEACE! 😦
 
In the Fifteen Prayers revealed by Our Lord to Saint Bridget of Sweden, which were approved by Pope Pius IX, Prayer 5 reads:
*0 Jesus! Mirror of eternal splendor, remember the sadness which Thou experienced, when contemplating in the light of Thy Divinity the predestination of those who would be saved by the merits of Thy Sacred Passion, Thou didst see at the same time, the great multitude of reprobates who would be damned for their sins, and Thou didst complain bitterly of those hopeless lost and unfortunate sinners.
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Through this abyss of compassion and pity, and especially through the goodness which Thou displayed to the good thief when Thou saidst to him: “This day, thou shalt be with Me in Paradise.” I beg of Thee, 0 Sweet Jesus, that at the hour of my death, Thou wilt show me mercy. Amen.*
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I have always felt this refered to the Agony in the Garden The First Prayer has
Remember the sadness and bitterness which Thou didst experience in Thy Soul as Thou Thyself bore witness saying: “My Soul is sorrowful even unto death.”
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I love to think about how adam in a garden contemplated human will and God’s will, and chose human.
Jesus contemplated a human will (He experienced humanity) and God’s will, and of course chose God’s will.

No wonder they call Him the new adam.

JC
 
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