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Eden said:
If you ever actually read the links that I include in my comments, you wouldn’t need to ask that.

"During the homily Pope Paul VI described the life of Maximilian Kolbe. He was a Polish Franciscan priest who was arrested by Nazis in February of 1941 for publishing unapproved literature. They sentenced him to hard labor at the Auschwitz concentration camp. In August of that same year a prisoner escaped. When he was not recaptured the Nazis took a reprisal. They lined up the other prisoners and picked out ten to die in the starvation bunker. One of the men selected was a farmer named Franciszek Gajowniczek. He was in Auschwitz only because he was Jew. When Franciszek was selected, he cried out, “My wife, my children!”

This is from the same link that I provided earlier:

geocities.com/Heartland/2964/good-fri.html

The author of the article erred. However, the fact that the spared man was in Auschwitz for aiding the Jewish resistance, along with other testimony stating from Jewish witnesses at Auschwitz that St. Maximilian Kolbe was not anti-Semitic makes the defamation of this poor man’s name all the more tasteless.

Per this article here:

consecration.com/antisemite1.html

I’m grateful to see that you have agreed that rolling his name in the mud any longer is uncalled for.
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I spent some time today, Googling this man whom Kolbe saved.

Most links I went to said he was in Auschwitz because he had been involved in the Polish Resistance, NOT because he was a Jew. And I can assure you, his name is most definitely not, in any shape or form, a Jewish name.

Can you provide any unbiased, historical links that say otherwise?
 
RCSoCal said:
Yes, I did, and my comment is that this is out of date.

Sepahard, it has been fun, but you are not going to convert me or my husband to your views :). Reform and secular Jews must be a pain I know. Sorry, I cannot continue to discuss - I have to get to work, but I wish you the best.
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Oh, I’m not trying to convert you to my views, now that I see the fuller situation. 🙂

Have a nice day.
 
Sepharad said:
I spent some time today, Googling this man whom Kolbe saved.

Most links I went to said he was in Auschwitz because he had been involved in the Polish Resistance, NOT because he was a Jew. And I can assure you, his name is most definitely not, in any shape or form, a Jewish name.

Can you provide any unbiased, historical links that say otherwise?
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Did you read the entirety of my last response?

Here is the second part, again:
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Eden:
The author of the article erred. However, the fact that the spared man was in Auschwitz for aiding the Jewish resistance, along with other testimony stating from Jewish witnesses at Auschwitz that St. Maximilian Kolbe was not anti-Semitic makes the defamation of this poor man’s name all the more tasteless.

Per this article here:

consecration.com/antisemite1.html
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Eden said:
Did you read the entirety of my last response?

Here is the second part, again:
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I read that. First, that is a Catholic devotinal site, is it not? Do you have any unbiased, historical sites that state plainly he was Jewish?

Have you read your own link carefully? Where does it say the man was a JEW? It says he was helping the Jewish Resistance, but THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS A JEW.

MANY Gentiles during the war helped various Resistance movements, the members often overlapped. They banded together to fight the Nazis.
 
Sepharad said:
I read that. First, that is a Catholic devotinal site, is it not? Do you have any unbiased, historical sites that state plainly he was Jewish?

Have you read your own link carefully? Where does it say the man was a JEW? It says he was helping the Jewish Resistance, but THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE WAS A JEW.

MANY Gentiles during the war helped various Resistance movements, the members often overlapped. They banded together to fight the Nazis.
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I don’t think that my two latest posts could have been any clearer in that I said the man who write the original article from which I had quoted had erred. I said he erred. I don’t know why you have missed this twice. I also said that the man who was spared was apparently in Auschwitz for contributing to the Jewish Resistance. I did not say that made him Jewish. The testimony of Jewish witnesses at Auschwitz unanimously agree on one thing, St. Maximilian Kolbe was not an anti-Semite. I think we both agree, he does not deserve to have his name dragged through the mud.
 
Eden said:
I don’t think that my two latest posts could have been any clearer in that I said the man who write the original article from which I had quoted had erred. I said he erred. I don’t know why you have missed this twice. I also said that the man who was spared was apparently in Auschwitz for contributing to the Jewish Resistance. I did not say that made him Jewish. The testimony of Jewish witnesses at Auschwitz unanimously agree on one thing, St. Maximilian Kolbe was not an anti-Semite. I think we both agree, he does not deserve to have his name dragged through the mud.
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Don’t pay much attention to S. she isn’t very hospitable, notice how she never even says may God bless you or peace at the end of her posts.🤷 She seems sort of like a robot. :rolleyes: Maybe she is?
 
dessert said:
Don’t pay much attention to S. she isn’t very hospitable, notice how she never even says may God bless you or peace at the end of her posts.🤷 She seems sort of like a robot. :rolleyes: Maybe she is?
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How ironic of you to say that…because I signed off what would have been my last post to this forum, just yesterday, with “God bless”. So, since you wrote this post of yours today, and I wrote mine yesterday (giving you ample time to read it), does that mean you lied about me?

Jews don’t usually sign off like that (we like to use “be well” instead, or something in Hebrew which no one here would understand anyway)…but since I was leaving, I decided to speak a universal language…

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=247274&page=4 See post 59.

BTW you were so nice to me in PM when you felt you had a chance to convert me…how curious you have changed so here.
 
Sepharad,

I’m just curious. If you had a choice to follow every law in Torah perfectly with out mistake or obtain salvation through grace and mercy which would you choose?

Also wern’t the Sepharadim spanish?
 
sambos671 said:
Sepharad,

I’m just curious. If you had a choice to follow every law in Torah perfectly with out mistake or obtain salvation through grace and mercy which would you choose?

Also wern’t the Sepharadim spanish?
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Fortunately, God has never asked or required that we follow every mitzvot perfectly in order to obtain “salvation” (redemption?). And fortunatley we as Jews have available to us “jesus free” mercy and grace.
 
Valke2 said:
Fortunately, God has never asked or required that we follow every mitzvot perfectly in order to obtain “salvation” (redemption?). And fortunatley we as Jews have available to us “jesus free” mercy and grace.
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explain in Torah where God is not requiring you to follow law entirely for redemption? And what about the second part of the question. (I’m not being obstenant. I’m actually wondering.)
 
sambos671 said:
explain in Torah where God is not requiring you to follow law entirely for redemption? And what about the second part of the question. (I’m not being obstenant. I’m actually wondering.)
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The explanation is found more in the Talmud than the Torah. I’ll look up the discussions in the Talmud and the Torah references they rely on and post them later this weekend. However, God redeems the people at Sinai and there is no commanement in Torah that we obey all the mitzvot perfectly. The mitzvot are a gift, not a burden. An opportunity to express our love of God. A blueprint for how we are to bring holiness into this world.
 
Valke2 said:
The explanation is found more in the Talmud than the Torah. I’ll look up the discussions in the Talmud and the Torah references they rely on and post them later this weekend. However, God redeems the people at Sinai and there is no commanement in Torah that we obey all the mitzvot perfectly. The mitzvot are a gift, not a burden. An opportunity to express our love of God. A blueprint for how we are to bring holiness into this world.
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Ok I look forward to it. So is there then ( in Judaism) a need for redemption? I meant if the Law (Mitzvot?) was given as a privilage for humans to please God. Then there is no need to follow (us goyim that is) and the only reason that Jew are required is that their fathers committed to the Mosaic Coventant to follow the Law and reaffirm it with Yeshua. Is that correct? Yet even for the Jews if the covenant is broken then there are curses associated with it as described in Torah. Plus I don’t know if it was you on the other thread (Jesus Married) but the Adamic Law to procreate was not necissarily Judaic law but kind of thing for all humanity right? And goyim are only responsible for following Noahic law. Is that right?
 
sambos671 said:
Sepharad,

I’m just curious. If you had a choice to follow every law in Torah perfectly with out mistake or obtain salvation through grace and mercy which would you choose?

Also wern’t the Sepharadim spanish?
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sambos671, I am not really taking part on this forum anymore. If you have any sincere questions about Jewish customs, laws, beliefs, etc you may consult simpletoremember.com or you may PM me for the time being , using the email contact option.

At the request of a few forum members, I’m hanging around behind the scenes for a few days, to (shall we say) help them assist the moderators with a few things. 🙂
 
If anyone should be banned from this site Hashem, it should be you with your blasphemous insults toward Jesus Christ and his Catholic church.
 
This is not directed at anybody. It is my belief that we are all created by God (with a little help from our parents). And that even the smallest act of unkindness toward each other is really a sin the enormity of which we refuse to acknowledge.
 
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