Jews--Christians--Muslims...same God?

[aidanbradypop]

how can this be?

Masonry is a parallel religion to Christianity. The New Catholic Encyclopedia states, “Freemasonry displays all the elements of religion, and as such it becomes a rival to the religion of the Gospel. It includes temples and altars, prayers, a moral code, worship, vestments, feast days, the promise of reward or punishment in the afterlife, a hierarchy, and initiation and burial rites.”

It is not inline with Christianity. Therefore it is parallel. Still confused?

 

[doormouse73]

Masonry is a parallel religion to Christianity. The New Catholic Encyclopedia states, “Freemasonry displays all the elements of religion, and as such it becomes a rival to the religion of the Gospel. It includes temples and altars, prayers, a moral code, worship, vestments, feast days, the promise of reward or punishment in the afterlife, a hierarchy, and initiation and burial rites.”

It is not inline with Christianity. Therefore it is parallel. Still confused?

no im not now.lolol… running parallel to me is the same not the opposite.

 

[aidanbradypop]

no im not now.lolol… running parallel to me is the same not the opposite.

LDS runs parallel to Catholicism but is in no way the same.

This topic is not about Freemasons so let not veer far please. If you are Catholic and believe that the Church is infallible then you should believe Jews, Muslims and Christians believe in the same God. Case closed!

 

[J_the_Centrist]

You should realize that those man-made rituals, as you call them, were part of the Torah/Pentateuch in the Hebrew Bible. They were given to Moses by G-d and they were practiced by Jesus. The Torah elaborates upon each of the Ten Commandments, which I’m sure you wouldn’t consider to be man-made.

Right!!! I mean it’s right there in Leviticus, Deuteronomy and many other places, perhaps some of these people don’t read their Bible as much as they let on.

 

[doormouse73]

LDS runs parallel to Catholicism but is in no way the same.

This topic is not about Freemasons so let not veer far please. If you are Catholic and believe that the Church is infallible then you should believe Jews, Muslims and Christians believe in the same God. Case closed!

parallel means two things going side by side in the same direction.

islam runs parallel to Catholicism but is in no way the same.

how do you like those apples?

my case is closed

 

[aidanbradypop]

parallel means two things going side by side in the same direction.

islam runs parallel to Catholicism but is in no way the same.

how do you like those apples?

my case is closed

I just had an apple lol…stop stalking me.

 

[aidanbradypop]

…Sometimes I just let things go lol

 

[doormouse73]

not a snarky remark t all (name removed by moderator)… are you putting words and ideas in peoples mouths again…lololol…

it was what i was saying,they are not the same.

if i was walking parallel with you,shoulder to shoulder down a path to a front door,and you was in line with the door,but i might be walking in the direction of the house who would walk in the door and who would hit the wall out side?

that is how i see the the entrance to the gates of heaven…

all the very best to ya…

 

[meedo]

We worship the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus , Muhammed … The God of All creations… the God that revealed the Torah , The Gospel and the Quran

We don’t worship a moon God. This is a Popular Christian myth about muslims.

I understand God as one with no forms, states , parts or trinity.

The names are actually not important. There are people who can’t speak still picturing the God you worship in your head is enough. Call him Allah , YHVH Yahoo. The merciful … it doesn’t matter as long as you know who he is in your heart.

 

[TEPO]

We worship the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus , Muhammed … The God of All creations… the God that revealed the Torah , The Gospel and the Quran

We don’t worship a moon God. This is a Popular Christian myth about muslims.

I understand God as one with no forms, states , parts or trinity.

The names are actually not important. There are people who can’t speak still picturing the God you worship in your head is enough. Call him Allah , YHVH Yahoo. The merciful … it doesn’t matter as long as you know who he is in your heart.

Who’s “yahoo”.

 

[KalKano]

Do Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims worship the same God? Perhaps… I would make two theological points. Point one, Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims all believe that there is only one all mighty, all powerful, transcendent God. So we are in agreement on this fundamental theological point.

Point two, Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims have different understandings (theological views) about God and what He has revealed about Himself to us. Although each religious tradition acknowledges that the God is beyond our full comprehension, each tradition also asserts that God has revealed specific Truths about Himself and his relationship with humanity and creation. However, these Truths are not the same in each tradition and in many cases are not compatible.

So although faithful Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims all acknowledge that there is one God, our understanding of who God is, what does He want from us and how should we behave towards each other are often different and these differences are important.

This is why the Catholic Church states that it has the “Fullness of Truth”, the most complete, accurate understanding of God. The Church does acknowledge that other religious traditions have partial knowledge of the Truth (perhaps along with errors) but they do not have a full understanding of God’s revelation to humanity.

God Bless

 

[J_the_Centrist]

We worship the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus , Muhammed … The God of All creations… the God that revealed the Torah , The Gospel and the Quran

We don’t worship a moon God. This is a Popular Christian myth about muslims.

I understand God as one with no forms, states , parts or trinity.

The names are actually not important. There are people who can’t speak still picturing the God you worship in your head is enough. Call him Allah , YHVH Yahoo. The merciful … it doesn’t matter as long as you know who he is in your heart.

Exactly what I have been trying to say! See my previous posts on this thread, as well as some others. I would be careful in saying that the “moon god” myth is a myth for Christians only. Personally, I have heard Jews use it as well, I don’t know who it was that started it but they were obviously a good propagandist.

 

[Gricken]

Although our god IS god of the moon. He isn’t a moon god. (He’s god of everything )

 

[J_the_Centrist]

Although our god IS god of the moon. He isn’t a moon god. (He’s god of everything )

What a coincidence, Muslims worship the same God! The God of the moon, stars, galaxies, etc.

 

[Gricken]

I know this. I’ve been saying this the whole time.

 

[J_the_Centrist]

I know this. I’ve been saying this the whole time.

I apologize for that, I thought that you were some of the others making those claims please forgive me.

 

[dzheremi]

We worship the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus , Muhammed … The God of All creations… the God that revealed the Torah , The Gospel and the Quran

An interesting claim, in light of the common contention among Muslims that the previous two books have been corrupted. But I digress…

We don’t worship a moon God. This is a Popular Christian myth about muslims.

It really is most unfortunate and irksome, isn’t it? Although we obviously will never see eye to eye on many things, I am always quite unhappy when I see Christians repeating this idea (as well as other, also ridiculous ideas, such as the “number of the beast” being graphically similar to “Allah” via a Greek cipher or some such nonsense that was peddled by Walid Shoebat some time ago, and eagerly parroted by some here; blah).

I understand God as one with no forms, states , parts or trinity.

This is not the place to get into any length debate over such things, but it is worth repeating in the face of probably some questionable explanations you may have gotten elsewhere that traditional Christian theology does not speak of the Holy Trinity as “parts” or “states”. Depending on the context, you may have been looking at something very influenced by Sabellianism, as many Christian-identifying sects are these days. But this thinking is modalism through and through, and is a heresy, condemned (if I recall correctly) at the first Council of Constantinople in 381 AD.

The names are actually not important.

Then why do you have 99 of them in your religion? (Kidding, of course!)

There are people who can’t speak still picturing the God you worship in your head is enough.

I am curious to hear about how you square this with your own belief that God is formless, as you mentioned above. You picture God in your head, but God has no form, so…? At any rate, this is one area where Orthodox Christians and Catholics definitely differ, as Catholics are encouraged (via historical precedents set by their saints like Ignatius of Loyola, founder of the Jesuits) to actively imagine things during their prayer, but this is not encouraged in Orthodoxy. When we pray, all of our soul, mind, heart, and body is to be engaged in the act of worship and supplication, not in imagining this or that image or shape or event. It can be tough, but God (or too much TV as a youngster) blessed me with a terrible imagination, so it’s not so difficult to get used to once you’re in the act of prayer and supplication.

Call him Allah , YHVH Yahoo. The merciful … it doesn’t matter as long as you know who he is in your heart.

A noble sentiment, indeed. We do indeed affirm His mercy, which endures forever, and His transcendence and Lordship over all creation.

 

[meltzerboy]

Do Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims worship the same God? Perhaps… I would make two theological points. Point one, Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims all believe that there is only one all mighty, all powerful, transcendent God. So we are in agreement on this fundamental theological point.

Point two, Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims have different understandings (theological views) about God and what He has revealed about Himself to us. Although each religious tradition acknowledges that the God is beyond our full comprehension, each tradition also asserts that God has revealed specific Truths about Himself and his relationship with humanity and creation. However, these Truths are not the same in each tradition and in many cases are not compatible.

So although faithful Jews, Catholics, other Christians and Muslims all acknowledge that there is one God, our understanding of who God is, what does He want from us and how should we behave towards each other are often different and these differences are important.

This is why the Catholic Church states that it has the “Fullness of Truth”, the most complete, accurate understanding of God. The Church does acknowledge that other religious traditions have partial knowledge of the Truth (perhaps along with errors) but they do not have a full understanding of God’s revelation to humanity.

God Bless

I generally agree with what you have stated but still have some questions. First, how do the Abrahamic religions differ with regard to “how we should behave towards each other,” as you have stated? Are you referring specifically to loving our enemies? Second, if you believe that “each religious tradition acknowledges that (the) G-d is beyond our full comprehension,” then do you agree that the ‘Fullness of Truth’ which the Catholic Church professes to have, as compared to the “partial knowledge of the Truth (perhaps along with errors)” that other faiths have, may be only a relatively small amount of the totality of Truth which may NOT have been revealed to humanity? IOW, perhaps there are no errors in what has been revealed to the Catholic Church, but HOW MUCH in fact has been revealed?

 

[meltzerboy]

We worship the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus , Muhammed … The God of All creations… the God that revealed the Torah , The Gospel and the Quran

We don’t worship a moon God. This is a Popular Christian myth about muslims.

I understand God as one with no forms, states , parts or trinity.

The names are actually not important. There are people who can’t speak still picturing the God you worship in your head is enough. Call him Allah , YHVH Yahoo. The merciful … it doesn’t matter as long as you know who he is in your heart.

I agree with this; Muslims and Jews have basically the same conception of G-d. Now, why is it that we are in constant conflict with one another in parts of the world?

 

[Afrem]

We worship the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus , Muhammed … The God of All creations… the God that revealed the Torah , The Gospel and the Quran

We don’t worship a moon God. This is a Popular Christian myth about muslims.

I understand God as one with no forms, states , parts or trinity.

The names are actually not important. There are people who can’t speak still picturing the God you worship in your head is enough. Call him Allah , YHVH Yahoo. The merciful … it doesn’t matter as long as you know who he is in your heart.

Your last para could be termed as blasphemous in the mainstream muslim world. It does not matter what you understand God to be as.
Your understanding of God with no form e.g. (Trininty) is like you putting limitations on the powers of God, which puts you and all other muslims above God Almighty…and that my friend is blasphemy if you know what I mean.