Jimmy Carter: Religion is one of the 'basic causes' of violations of women's rights

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Nor, tragically, does its influence stop at the walls of the church, mosque, synagogue or temple. This discrimination, unjustifiably attributed to a Higher Authority, has provided a reason or excuse for the deprivation of women’s equal rights across the world for centuries. The male interpretations of religious texts and the way they interact with, and reinforce, traditional practices justify some of the most pervasive, persistent, flagrant and damaging examples of human rights abuses.

At their most repugnant, the belief that women must be subjugated to the wishes of men excuses slavery, violence, forced prostitution, genital mutilation and national laws that omit rape as a crime. But it also costs many millions of girls and women control over their own bodies and lives, and continues to deny them fair access to education, health, employment and influence within their own communities.

The impact of these religious beliefs touches every aspect of our lives. They help explain why in many countries boys are educated before girls; why girls are told when and whom they must marry; and why many face enormous and unacceptable risks in pregnancy and childbirth because their basic health needs are not met.
guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/12/jimmy-carter-womens-rights-equality
What are your thoughts on this?
I think that many of us here in this forum know that harm can come when the traditions of man are confused with the Word of God. Separating culture from religion is difficult, and often religious text or beliefs are indirectly referenced by individuals to justify treating women as secondary in importance to men.

I think it a good thing to reflect on traditions to determine whether they truly reflect God’s values, or something else. And if they are opposed to God’s values, then they need to be changed.
 
**IMO, Jimmy Carter has just proved what I already perceived in him anyway; now he confirmed it. He did the very same thing that he accused the SBC of doing; only he took them out of context.

Here is the link for the “The Baptist Faith and Message”:
The very bottom references the Family and the Church is in the middle.

On Family: The husband and wife are of equal worth before God, since both are created in God’s image. The marriage relationship models the way God relates to His people. A husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church. He has the God-given responsibility to provide for, to protect, and to lead his family. A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation.

On the church:
A New Testament church of the Lord Jesus Christ is an autonomous local congregation of baptized believers, associated by covenant in the faith and fellowship of the gospel; observing the two ordinances of Christ, governed by His laws, exercising the gifts, rights, and privileges invested in them by His Word, and seeking to extend the gospel to the ends of the earth. Each congregation operates under the Lordship of Christ through democratic processes. In such a congregation each member is responsible and accountable to Christ as Lord. Its scriptural officers are pastors and deacons. While both men and women are gifted for service in the church, the office of pastor is limited to men as qualified by Scripture. nothing about women unable to be deacons; which I believe is in accordance to the Word. Although many SBC church’s will not allow women as deacons, which I do not believe this can be shown from the word of God when read in the proper context. I agree about pastors though.

The New Testament speaks also of the church as the Body of Christ which includes all of the redeemed of all the ages, believers from every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation.

Source: sbc.net/bfm/bfm2000.asp **
 
One of my wife’s cousin is a mentally challenged individual. She wanders the streets jabbering on about this and that. We live in a small enough town that everyone knows who she is and just puts up with her.

However, we do not ask her for her opinion on religion, politics, international affairs, or economics.

If we have enough sense to not worry about the opinions of one of our own village (really a city) idiots, why would we worry about the opinions of some other village’s idiot?
 
If we have enough sense to not worry about the opinions of one of our own village (really a city) idiots, why would we worry about the opinions of some other village’s idiot?
Amen! And it took him only 6 decades to reach his conclusion. Very ‘manly’ denouncement after all these years of suppressing his feelings. Do you think he will spread his message abroad, in non-Christian countries? I give him credit for keeping himself in the news.

Peace, Graubo
 
One of my wife’s cousin is a mentally challenged individual. She wanders the streets jabbering on about this and that. We live in a small enough town that everyone knows who she is and just puts up with her.

However, we do not ask her for her opinion on religion, politics, international affairs, or economics.

If we have enough sense to not worry about the opinions of one of our own village (really a city) idiots, why would we worry about the opinions of some other village’s idiot?
😃 👍
 
Jimmy Carter had four years as President to show the capacity to identify the causes of problems and seek solutions. The result was the economy and international relations we were left with in 1980-1981.
 
Right now Obama’s favorability polling is only 2% points above where Jimmy Carter was in July of his first term. Interesting…😉
 
guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/12/jimmy-carter-womens-rights-equality

I think that many of us here in this forum know that harm can come when the traditions of man are confused with the Word of God. Separating culture from religion is difficult, and often religious text or beliefs are indirectly referenced by individuals to justify treating women as secondary in importance to men.

I think it a good thing to reflect on traditions to determine whether they truly reflect God’s values, or something else. And if they are opposed to God’s values, then they need to be changed.
I agree whole heartedly.
 
why did it take him so long to come to this decision i wonder?

for someone who was president of the united states and won a nobel peace prize - i can’t understand why he is just now having this epiphany about his church.
 
Jimmy Carter keeps talking about how he’s left the SBC. No, he hasn’t. He’s still a Southern Baptist. Individuals can’t leave the convention as individuals; only churches can choose to join the SBC.
 
He is right to some extent: throughout history people have hidden behind religious beliefs and practices to perpetrate oppression on weaker groups - women being one of those groups. Sadly that is true in some cases even of those who profess/professed Christianity.

Sometimes it’s hard to separate culture from religion and in some cases there has been a deliberate effort to blur the line between man’s inclinations and God’s law. Accepting that fact does not diminish the value of religion in our lives and in no way reflects on the Lord in His goodness.
 
If we have enough sense to not worry about the opinions of one of our own village (really a city) idiots, why would we worry about the opinions of some other village’s idiot?
I need your address to send you the bill for a new computer.

Coffee all over mine right now after reading that.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
 
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