John Granger on Harry Potter

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A major concern with parents who are against their children reading Harry Potter books is that they will make witchcraft look fun and seemingly harmless.

The pagan religion of Witchcraft (Wicca) is one of the fastest growing religions in the U.S. today. Although the fast majority of kids that read these books will most likely never get involved in real witchcraft, there will be kids atracted to it, because of the interest gained from reading these books. Teenagers are especially at risk. Please consider this possible consequence of the Harry Potter books.
 
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anne1:
A major concern with parents who are against their children reading Harry Potter books is that they will make witchcraft look fun and seemingly harmless.

The pagan religion of Witchcraft (Wicca) is one of the fastest growing religions in the U.S. today. Although the fast majority of kids that read these books will most likely never get involved in real witchcraft, there will be kids atracted to it, because of the interest gained from reading these books. Teenagers are especially at risk. Please consider this possible consequence of the Harry Potter books.
I would buy this arguement if the “witchcraft” in the Harry Potter stories resembled real Wicca practices in any way but they do not.

Most, if not all, of the people who make this arguement have no idea what Wicca is or what its practices are.

I know, as I once was into wicca and neo-paganism as well as magick and the occult.

Nothing in Harry Potter is taken from the occult.

You can not even say that it makes it seem fun and harmless as why they do in Harry Potter is nothing like the real thing.

Harry Potter is fiction, it is no worse than the Lord of the Rings.

If you won’t let your child read Harry Potter because you fear this stuff then you better not let them read the Lord of the Rings because it was that work that helped me along on my path into the occult.
 
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anne1:
A major concern with parents who are against their children reading Harry Potter books is that they will make witchcraft look fun and seemingly harmless.
Yup, but that argument could be offered for a whole smattering of wrong behavior in a lot of literature:

Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
by Mark Twain. Norton. Published in 1884, “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” has been banned on social grounds. Concord Public Library called the book “trash suitable only for the slums,” when it first banned the novel in 1885.

The Scarlet Letter
by Nathaniel Hawthorne. Norton. Published in 1850, “The Scarlet Letter” was censored on social grounds. The book has been challenged under claims that it is “pornographic and obscene.”

Of Mice and Men
by John Steinbeck. Penguin. Published in 1937, Steinbeck’s “Of Mice and Men” has been frequently banned on social grounds. The book has been called “offensive” and “vulgar” because of the language and characterization.

To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee. Despite winning the Pulitzer Prize in 1960, some still don’t think it’s “appropriate” reading. It’s been banned for … Profanity, sex and racial themes.

How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell. The plot involves a boy who bets he can eat 15 fried worms in 15 days. I probably read it about 15 times when I was a kid. How many times was I tempted to eat a worm? Not once. It’s been banned for encouraging inappropriate behavior.

A Light in the Attic by Shel Silverstein. Yes, censorship happens to lighthearted children’s poetry, too. It’s been banned for … Inappropriate content. This story says Attic was challenged at a Florida school because it “promotes disrespect, horror and violence.”
The pagan religion of Witchcraft (Wicca) is one of the fastest growing religions in the U.S. today. Although the fast majority of kids that read these books will most likely never get involved in real witchcraft, there will be kids atracted to it, because of the interest gained from reading these books. Teenagers are especially at risk. Please consider this possible consequence of the Harry Potter books.
Which is why I promote a good grounding in religion, and thorough parenting (knowing the who, when, why, where and what of your children ALWAYS). HP isn’t the only place their going to be introduced to witchcraft. In fact I would submit that a child has a better chance of becoming enthralled with magick- from friends who play around with it, than from reading a book.

I guess my point is, that YES, each parent should decide what their child should be exposed to. I have no trouble with that, in fact I applaud those parents who take a stand with things that are important to them. But in the case of HP, and with much other literature- that is a personal decision for the parents.

As with many of the abovementioned literature- time has often shown that the literature has themes that may outweigh the shadows of racism, vulgarity, or violence (and magic) in the stories. And exposure to these themes in the proper context do more to enrich the child than lead them astray.
 
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ByzCath:
I would buy this arguement if the “witchcraft” in the Harry Potter stories resembled real Wicca practices in any way but they do not…

…If you won’t let your child read Harry Potter because you fear this stuff then you better not let them read the Lord of the Rings because it was that work that helped me along on my path into the occult.
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ByzCath:
I would buy this arguement if the “witchcraft” in the Harry Potter stories resembled real Wicca practices in any way but they do not.

Most, if not all, of the people who make this arguement have no idea what Wicca is or what its practices are.
How much the Harry Potter books resemble the practice of real witchcraft is not my point. Making witchcraft attractive to kids is the point that many are concerned about. By these books making witchcraft more “mainstream” and acceptable, will lead some people into exploring the very real pagan religion of witchcraft and so very far away from Christianity. The occult as well as pagan beliefs and practices are on the rise, especially with young people. Who knows what percentage of kids reading the books will have a thoughful and informed parent alongside to explain the differences between them and the practices of real life witchcraft. Most likely a very small percent.
 
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anne1:
How much the ____________books resemble the practice of ___________ is not my point. Making _________ attractive to kids is the point that many are concerned about. By these books making ___________ more “mainstream” and acceptable, will lead some people into exploring the very real _____________ and so very far away from Christianity. The _____________ are on the rise, especially with young people. Who knows what percentage of kids reading the books will have a thoughful and informed parent alongside to explain the differences between them and _________________. Most likely a very small percent.
I removed the references specific to witchcraft and HP so as to reiterate that the blanks could be filled in with ANYTHING deemed inappropriate.

RACISM
SEXUAL PROMISCUITY
HOMOSEXUALITY
OBESITY
VIOLENCE
WAR
EATING PORK

You get the point.

You are probably right, there are no doubt a lot of parents ignoring what their children read. Or worse, actually promoting the bad behaviors (racism or tolerance for homosexual behavior). I am truly sorry for those children. But in a free society, how can we ban or censor BOOKS in such blanket ways under the auspice of protecting all of society’s children from non-life-threatening ills? There are people who are are for the Occult or segregation or whatever who would ban religious books for the same reasoning!

I have chosen to keep certain books from my home because I know that my child is especially interested in that particular subject matter in an unhealthy way. I know that she is not ready to ‘learn’ about it objectively. In my home, my daughter isn’t attracted to the occult in an unhealthy way. I can use the story for entertainment- with a little objective education regarding the church’s position on the occult. She knows it is just a story and that real magic comes from a place that is unholy.

It is great that some parents have chosen to keep that story and others out of their homes. I don’t look at that any differently that those parents who have chosen to keep certain literature out of their home libraries because of poor quality. (Which several posters have already commented on.)

I agree with you in the broad sense that there are subjects out there that are going to be tempting to a child, and literature that seems to support those subjects, can hinder parents who attempt to teach against them.

(Think of how difficult it must be for Orthodox Jewish parents to teach their school age kids that they cannot eat sausage pizza or bacon and eggs when at their friend’s house for a sleepover!)

The point is, we as parents face obstacles to our ‘good parenting’ EVERY DAY. But, I do not want anyone telling me that they know how to better parent my kid than I do. I will stand next to you on your right to keep HP out of your home. But I hope you stand by me in OUR right to parent our kids how we believe is right and true.
 
I really dont see Christian themes in Harry Potter, but I also dont see that as a reason to not read the books or watch the movies. I enjoy all types of movies, from bios, docus, Christian, from fantasy, to pagan, to witchcraft, etc… depends on the age of the child or teen. If ones kids are grounded in the faith, I find the Harry Potter stuff on a scale of 1-5 for problematic a 2
 
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SaintlySinner:
I really dont see Christian themes in Harry Potter, but I also dont see that as a reason to not read the books or watch the movies. I enjoy all types of movies, from bios, docus, Christian, from fantasy, to pagan, to witchcraft, etc… depends on the age of the child or teen. If ones kids are grounded in the faith, I find the Harry Potter stuff on a scale of 1-5 for problematic a 2
Check out this article about the second book Chamber of Secrets it may help.

ev90481.dial.pipex.com/harry_potter_granger.htm
 
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