John Hagee Ministries

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Crescentinus said:
Hence the need for more Catholic TV channels like EWTN and ChurchMilitant.tv
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We need more Catholic shows on TV, not just thier own channels. I would even rather hear a rational Protestant than a “televangelist”. I might disagree with Charles Stanley, but I wouldn’t put him in the same bowl as the charlatains.
 
If I could chime in here, I’m converting to Catholicism after being a lifelong Baptist. Hagee is a televangelist, but ultimately his message isn’t that different from what is being spoken in most Protestant churches. Furthermore, his style of “preaching” seems very familiar to me–just on a larger scale, of course. The whole axis of the Protestant service is the “sermon.” They read a few Bible verses then talk for an hour, and there is a lot of warning about the end times and such. You cradle Catholics might be surprised just how typical Hagee is.
 
Well imo John Hagee is correct about the dire consequences for the US in withdrawing support for an independent defensible Israel. BO has turned the US into a puppet of the oil rich nations that want to maintain the status quo of their sheikdoms.
 
Crescentinus said:
Hence the need for more Catholic TV channels like EWTN and ChurchMilitant.tv
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👍

But they also need to extend their coverage to Anglophone countries, such as India, where the Protestants have already gotten a huge head start. I’ve seen all too many Catholics watch Jimmy Swaggart and his ilk, in the belief that all “Christian TV” is perfectly OK. I remember a (Catholic) friend of mine looking at me like I was some sort of heretic just because I said I didn’t believe in the Rapture. 😃
 
I guess I’m alone here in liking John Hagee. His fire and brimstone is something you rarely hear in Catholic Churches. At Fatima Our Lady showed the children a glimpse of Hell and they were terrified.
 
Mommybostic said:
If I could chime in here, I’m converting to Catholicism after being a lifelong Baptist. Hagee is a televangelist, but ultimately his message isn’t that different from what is being spoken in most Protestant churches. Furthermore, his style of “preaching” seems very familiar to me–just on a larger scale, of course. The whole axis of the Protestant service is the “sermon.” They read a few Bible verses then talk for an hour, and there is a lot of warning about the end times and such. You cradle Catholics might be surprised just how typical Hagee is.
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Well, yeah, an hour. How else do we beat the Baptists to Burger King or the Mormons to McDonald’s or the Catholics to Cracker Barrel?:D:D
 
Cracker Barrell…What??? Never been there.

I heard of Kenneth Copeland, finally. And someone referred a book to us that he is considered a heretic among Evangelicals.

In the Catholic Church, the priest does not get up and give his take on things. He is only authorized to teach what is being taught around the world for the appropriate Scripture readings. So we already have this detachment from the priest at Mass. We can pick up immediately when a priest is a little ‘off’. I saw it happen about 2 years ago and also had this sense the priest did not want to be a priest. So many months later he announced he was getting married, and left. He was very well liked, nevertheless.
 
Mommybostic said:
If I could chime in here, I’m converting to Catholicism after being a lifelong Baptist. Hagee is a televangelist, but ultimately his message isn’t that different from what is being spoken in most Protestant churches. Furthermore, his style of “preaching” seems very familiar to me–just on a larger scale, of course. The whole axis of the Protestant service is the “sermon.” They read a few Bible verses then talk for an hour, and there is a lot of warning about the end times and such. You cradle Catholics might be surprised just how typical Hagee is.
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Mommybostic—

Hagee may be typical for some types of Baptist churches, in some parts of the US…but typical for most Protestant churches?–no way. I wouldn’t even call him typical for Evangelicals.
 
RPRPsych said:
He’s an anti-Catholic bigot, who has called us the Whore of Babylon.

Folks like him, Benny Hinn, Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker give Christianity a bad name. They can only be watched for their train-wreck quality, not for any authentic teaching of Christ or His Church.
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Psych,

This is misinformation. He has retracted the Catholic whore of Babylon and says Catholics are brothers and sisters…

I started a thread on Hagees change of heart here…

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=725994

msnbc.msn.com/id/24599419…whore-no-more/
Hagee has often made references to “the apostate church” and the “great whore,” terms that Catholics say are slurs aimed at the Roman Catholic Church. In his letter, Hagee said he now better understood that the Book of Revelation’s reference to the Catholic Church as “the apostate church” and the “great whore” are “a rhetorical device long employed in anti-Catholic literature and commentary.”
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He stressed that in his use, “neither of these phrases can be synonymous with the Catholic Church.”
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LINVS said:
I guess I’m alone here in liking John Hagee. His fire and brimstone is something you rarely hear in Catholic Churches. At Fatima Our Lady showed the children a glimpse of Hell and they were terrified.
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Is it just me, or does it somehow feel wrong to mention Our Blessed Mother and John Hagee in the same sentence? 😦

Our Lady is the Queen of Heaven, who intercedes for us without ceasing, and whose miraculous apparitions have a clear place in God’s salvific plan.

John Hagee is a ranting Protestant evangelist.

“Fire and brimstone” for its own sake does not justify the means. 🤷
 
AbideWithMe said:
Mommybostic—

Hagee may be typical for some types of Baptist churches, in some parts of the US…but typical for most Protestant churches?–no way. I wouldn’t even call him typical for Evangelicals.
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Abide,

It would be safe to say that both your experiences are valid for you.

No way is it possible to know which communities either of you visited or that any or all of them represent anything but your experience. He is typical for those that have experienced his typical style and atypical for those that have not.

Mommy is coming home…👍
 
Coptic—

Hagee isn’t typical for most Protestants. I’m not speaking only from my personal experience.
 
CopticChristian said:
Abide,

This opinion is based on what?
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Coptic, what do you think? Do you think he is typical of Lutherans, Methodists, Anglicans, Amish and Mennonites, Presbyterians and Reformed? Do you think “Christianity Today”, the mainstream Evangelical magazine, is full of John Hagee-like articles? Do you think a typical Methodist, Presbyterian, or Lutheran-derived Evangelical pastor yells while preaching, and focuses on “End Times”?
 
AbideWithMe said:
Coptic, what do you think? Do you think he is typical of Lutherans, Methodists, Anglicans, Amish and Mennonites, Presbyterians and Reformed? Do you think “Christianity Today”, the mainstream Evangelical magazine, is full of John Hagee-like articles? Do you think a typical Methodist, Presbyterian, or Lutheran-derived Evangelical pastor yells while preaching, and focuses on “End Times”?
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Abide,

I think you are answering a question with a question.
 
AbideWithMe said:
Why do you think that?
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Abide this was your answer…
Coptic, what do you think? Do you think he is typical of Lutherans, Methodists, Anglicans, Amish and Mennonites, Presbyterians and Reformed? Do you think “Christianity Today”, the mainstream Evangelical magazine, is full of John Hagee-like articles? Do you think a typical Methodist, Presbyterian, or Lutheran-derived Evangelical pastor yells while preaching, and focuses on “End Times”?
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you actually answered my question with numerous questions as indicated by your question marks.
 
KathleenGee said:
Cracker Barrell…What??? Never been there.

I heard of Kenneth Copeland, finally. And someone referred a book to us that he is considered a heretic among Evangelical
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Carcker Barrell is an old fashion style restaurant. You mention Kenneth Copeland. He is very different from John Hagee because he is in the forefrount of the word of faith, name it claim it movement/ properity gospel. And yes his teaching are very heretical. You should not listen to either men because what both Hagee and Copeland teach are heresies. Hagee errs on the side of the rapture dispensationalists. copeland is name it /claim it wealth/prosperity etc. Both teach dangerous errors and should not be supported or listen to.
 
robwar said:
Carcker Barrell is an old fashion style restaurant. You mention Kenneth Copeland. He is very different from John Hagee because he is in the forefrount of the word of faith, name it claim it movement/ properity gospel. And yes his teaching are very heretical. You should not listen to either men because what both Hagee and Copeland teach are heresies. Hagee errs on the side of the rapture dispensationalists. copeland is name it /claim it wealth/prosperity etc. Both teach dangerous errors and should not be supported or listen to.
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Robwar,

The prodigy of Protestant thought:eek:
 
Okay, Hell is about to freeze over.
I am agreeing with the only Protestant on this thread.
I was actually going to bring up what AWM posted in regard to Lutherans, Methodists, Anglicans, Amish, Mennonites, Presbyterians and Reformed.
Thanks Abide. 👍

Sorry guys, I know you want to foster “understanding” by not dissing a popular televangelist thinking you’re gonna win some friends. But you can’t straddle the fence with this guy. His theology of “covenant salvation” is in no way shape or form compatable with mainstream Protestant thought, and some of the best critiques of his ‘theology’ have come from Protestant sources.
I stand by my statement, I would not slander Protestants by calling Hagee a Protestant.

Oh…and pahleeze, no melodramatic “this is what drives me from Catholicism…” :rolleyes:
I am actually defending Protestants here.
So, If my answer about Hagee being a charlatain seems “harsh”, my answer is the same as John Wayne’s in an earlier post.
Yes ma’am, I hit 'em.
JUST AS HARD AS I COULD. 😉
 
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