John Lennon - Your Opinions

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I heard Lucy in the Sky with Diamands was indeed about drugs, LSD. Perhaps my source was wrong, but the initials certainly would be a strange coincidence.
 
wisdom 3:5:
Really? I’d love to read about that and the origins of other songs. Do you have a source (I believe you by the way, this is not one of those posts that want you to prove it :)). My husband would like a book like that too.
There are many huge books on the Beatles, but I think this was in a magazine or liner notes.

Still, any good book about them will tell you these. They are well known stories.

Though I’m still not sure there’s any explanation on earth for the White Album 🙂
 
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Maverick:
I heard Lucy in the Sky with Diamands was indeed about drugs, LSD. Perhaps my source was wrong, but the initials certainly would be a strange coincidence.
A child that Julian lennon knew in school was named Lucy, and he drew her floating in the sky wearing diamonds, and don’t quote me on this but I beleive Paul suggested a song.

It is a coincidence, but there are too many witnesses, including Julian, who kept the drawing.
 
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Liberalsaved:
John was the most talented and revolutionary song writer and musician in the Beatles. Paul will always be John’s very talented sidekick.
I hope you’re not driving a vehicle or operating any heavy equipment in that condition.:banghead:
 
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Chris7:
I hope you’re not driving a vehicle or operating any heavy equipment in that condition.:banghead:
Sorry, John did more than Paul did. Paul was a very very very cose second. John’s beleifs do not color my opinion of the man’s talents in any way. And thank you for the personal insult. Should I report that?

Edit: I’m used to sarcasm, I don’t actually think you intended malice.
 
No one mentioned when he (and other Beatles) went to India and studied(?) under the Rajeesh (ok, so I’ve got the name wrong). Seems to me he/they were into the whole eastern religion thing. Also, my husband and I (we graduated in 64 and 65) both remember John Lennon as a big druggie. The song Imagine is absolutely saying religion has screwed things up and we’d be better off without it.

When John and Oko came out with their nudie album, that did it for me. YUCK. And let me tell you, they should have kept THOSE bodies clothed :eek:

Whoever said he was a poor role model got it right.
 
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Marquette:
No one mentioned when he (and other Beatles) went to India and studied(?) under the Rajeesh (ok, so I’ve got the name wrong). Seems to me he/they were into the whole eastern religion thing. Also, my husband and I (we graduated in 64 and 65) both remember John Lennon as a big druggie. The song Imagine is absolutely saying religion has screwed things up and we’d be better off without it.

When John and Oko came out with their nudie album, that did it for me. YUCK. And let me tell you, they should have kept THOSE bodies clothed :eek:

Whoever said he was a poor role model got it right.
It’s true the Beatles dabbled in the eastern religion with George leading the way. As I recall, George was fascinated with the eastern instruments in particular the sitar which he became very proficient at. As for your sentiment about John, Oko and that whole post-Beatles scene I couldn’t agree with you more.
 
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Chris7:
It’s true the Beatles dabbled in the eastern religion with George leading the way. As I recall, George was fascinated with the eastern instruments in particular the sitar which he became very proficient at. As for your sentiment about John, Oko and that whole post-Beatles scene I couldn’t agree with you more.
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Liberalsaved:
A child that Julian lennon knew in school was named Lucy, and he drew her floating in the sky wearing diamonds, and don’t quote me on this but I beleive Paul suggested a song.

It is a coincidence, but there are too many witnesses, including Julian, who kept the drawing.
I just can’t accept that the song had nothing to do with LSD. The whole song is about a hallucinogenic trip on acid. Listen to it again. We also know that the Beatles experimented with LSD at this time in their lives.

I suspect that they got caught about the meaning of the song and had to come up with something believeable. The fake story stuck and everyone stuck to it. Tell your young child something false and see how quickly they remember it as fact.

It’s also possible that it started with Julian and was then expanded to sinc up with their acid trip, given the initials. Either way, the song is about an acid trip.
 
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qmvsimp:
It’s also possible that it started with Julian and was then expanded to sinc up with their acid trip, given the initials. Either way, the song is about an acid trip.
Well, the evidence says no and you say yes. I’m going with the evidence.
 
I’m just going to believe what The Beatles said. John says it was a picture that Julian drew…leave it at that. He said it. Sure it could be about LSD. But, hey, we’ll never know.
 
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Actress101:
I’m just going to believe what The Beatles said. John says it was a picture that Julian drew…leave it at that. He said it. Sure it could be about LSD. But, hey, we’ll never know.
I just saw that my way of saying it was a little snarky, and I do apologize, but I can’t change it now.
 
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Liberalsaved:
I just saw that my way of saying it was a little snarky, and I do apologize, but I can’t change it now.
No, actually agreed with what you wrote. I’m just saying, the musics good, people should respect the music. I like what you wrote. 🙂
 
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Liberalsaved:
Well, the evidence says no and you say yes. I’m going with the evidence.
So am I. A song whose initials are LSD and the song is about crazy hallucinations. Written during a time while they were admittedly experimenting with LSD. (Talk about coincidences.)

Remember that I’m not refuting that the song originated with Julian. I’m refuting that the song has nothing to do with an LSD trip.

We’re both going with the evidence, just selectively chosing which evidence to go with. I respect your (plural) opinions though. It’s true that we will never know for sure. Each of us feels we are correct.
 
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GarryOwen:
I have no time for John Lennon or the Beatles. Personally, I prefer Elvis Presley I find him and his songs more spiritually up lifting. 👍
Oh yeah, because Elvis was a paradigm of virtue. :rolleyes: Let’s not forget he slept with almost everyone of his leading ladies in his films.
 
No way Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is about LSD. You want to hear a song about LSD? Go listen to Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf.
 
Well, with reagards to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, it seems we are all correct in some aspect.

Update: June, 2004
  • In a new interview in Uncut Magazine, Paul detailed his drug use for the first time with the Beatles, which centered mostly around cocaine and that he had tried heroin once. In that interview, although Paul acknowledged that Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds had indeed been named for the drawing by Julian, he also said “it’s pretty obvious” that the song is about an acid trip.
beatlesagain.com/bmyths.html**
 
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